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ThisThat Podcast
by Liam Lawson
Selfishly exploring 'success' from the naive viewpoint that only an overly optimistic 23yo can provide. Not sure what to do with your life? Me neither. Join me as I explore the central theme of success across different disciplines that pique my curiosity:→ entrepreneurship→ music/music production→ creators→ actors/filmmaking→ self-development → fitness/health→ philosophy→ travelling/adventureMy goal is to humanise the idea of 'success' - to understand the WHY & HOW behind the people from different disciplines.
Episodes
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I failed at being civilised
as per the title
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you're probably overstimulated
as per the title
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I spent $350 on a perm then shaved it all off
as the title says
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An Imbecile's Roast Potato Ramblings
as the title says
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Lost My Horse in Kyrgyzstan
as the title says
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Tanzania Safari Elephants Have Left Hands Too
As the title would suggest
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20th Jan 2026 Update
Not too much to it.
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$0 Dropshipping to $100k+ through Twitter
as it says
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reminding myself why I even do this
see the title
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Paraguay & Beunos Aires with special guest Kyle Mair
cool mountains innit?
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EP35 — Back Again?
Not got loads to add here. Trying to get in the routine of doing this all again after neglecting it for so long.
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EP34 - Riz Iqbal (Words Of Rizdom) - Overcoming Addiction, Dropping Wisdom & Powerful Buzzcuts
EP34 is a favourite from recent memory. Today's guest is Riz Iqbal from Words Of Rizdom. Riz spends his time on a multitude of pursuits including trading, coaching, podcasting & more. Furthermore he's a father, a husband and an inspirational figure to many. If you're looking for guidance or an...
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EP32 - Existential Questions With Dylan Alexander
Been on a bit of a hiatus recently with guest no-shows and other external factors but we're back with a bit of a fun one. A recap with my friend Dylan Alexander after a little time off. Questions about life. Enjoy.
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EP31 - Matt/Melbourne Meditation Centre; Indian Adventures And Tailored Meditation
Incredibly fun episode this one. Matt from the Melbourne meditation centre took me through his experience of finding meditation in India, transcendent experiences & how he started his now booming meditation business. Matt's Links 🔑 Website 🔑 Instagram My Links 🔗 Instagram 🔗 Twitter
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EP30 - 5 Senses Coffee; Melbourne Coffee, Adventures in PNG & Life Advice
I sat down with Gavan Hogan of 5 Senses Coffee for a conversation on coffee, relationships, travelling & the continued success of 5 Senses. Gavan was the first person to give me the time of day in Melbourne & 3 days in to my Australia journey he invited me down to explore their roastery. 6 months...
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EP29 - Completing A Marathon As A Podcast
Literally just as the title says. On Sunday 26th of February I ran a marathon around Melbourne, Australia. Recorded before, during & after to give as much insight as possible in to my experience. If you've got any questions drop em to my socials below: 🔗 Twitter 🔗 Instagram
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EP28 - A 48 Hour Water Fast As A Podcast
Fasted for 48 hours in an attempt to gain new insights about my hunger threshold and possibly even philosophical insights. All I learned was that I can get really hungry and fasting doesn't make for a very good podcast.
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EP27 - 2500 Miles Of Vietnam On A $300 Motorbike
27 is my lucky number so I have a good feeling about this episode. Wether it serves as a memory of the past or a chapter of something new I'm unsure yet but it's a good place to launch off from. Insights: → Ho Chi Minh traffic moves like a fish → Don't let Swiss men ride motorbikes → Vietnamese...
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EP26 - One Way Ticket To Nepal; Stories About Everest, Annapurna & Paragliding
Stories from that time I sold everything, booked a one way ticket to Nepal and started what's been a year long adventure around the world. Links 🔗 Twitter 🔗 Instagram
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EP25 - Jordan (The Wealth Letters) - Finding Purpose With Fatherhood, Religion & Social Media Cultivation
One of those conversations where it feels like you're speaking to your brother, father & friend at the same time. Key Insights: You can choose what noise you tune in to Religion delivers purpose but can also hold individuals back from extreme ambition Being a dad takes the cake as the hardest job...
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EP24 - Michael Toma - "The Only Thing Holding You Back Is Yourself"
Key Insights: You're often the only one holding yourself back from progress `Corporate Risk Management is actually an incredible job I can't take compliments at all As you get older, you start to feel younger Guest’s Links 🔑 Website 🔑 LinkedIn 🔑 Podcasts/YouTube 🔑 DesireToTrade My Links 🔗...
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EP23 - Louis Shulman - Surround Yourself With Success; Put Your Back Against The Wall
Always love having conversations with people the same age as myself. Key Insights: Creating an 'Impossible List' is a way to build self-belief Put yourself in tough situations, work through them You adjust to your environment, surround yourself with winners Birkenstocks are comparable to Spotify...
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EP22 - First Press Coffee - Building A National Cold-Drip Brand; Carving Character Through Entrepreneurship
Without a doubt my favourite episode to date. Today's episode features First Press owners Jimmy & Hamish. With a common vision of re-defining the coffee market with ethically sourced, excellent cold-drip coffee FirstPress was formed in 2013. Since then they've grown & expanded to the point where...
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EP21 - Ripped in 40 minutes per WEEK; Unexplored strength strategies - Jack Woods
Results utterly speak for themselves... Jack H Woods has honed and perfected a training strategy over time that has him absolutely shredded in less than 5 minutes per session. Honestly didn't believe it 'till I saw it for myself and actually tried the workout with him. Best Insights 👀 → All…
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EP20 - Hinge Date As A Podcast - Hannah From Hinge
Bit of an interesting one here.... Messaged a girl on hinge, asked her to do a podcast prior to meeting me at all, somehow the first person I asked agreed to do it. Main Topics → Open relationships → Gender roles in society → Who should pay on the first date? → What age group fucks the best? →…
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EP19 - Travelling The World Creating Content & Re-Visiting Warzones As A Veteran - Wandering Nick
Episode 19 details Wandering Nick's experience from growing up in Indonesia to fighting for his country to creating travel content on YouTube. 🤞 Favourite Moments → Growing up in a foreign country, lessons learned in connection → Plans to re-visit a former war-zone as a veteran → Staying true to...
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EP18 - Podception Podcasting Aussie Podcasters; Lessons In Living A Rich Life - Sachin & Adam Show
Sachin & Adam are 2 Australian podcasters specialising in the tech & VC industry. They came on to my radar when I googled 'Top Aussie Podcasters' a few months ago so this episode is pretty wild for me with a google search becoming reality. The duo started their podcast on a university exchange in...
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EP17 - Quitting Corporate Through Entrepreneurship; Finding Purpose With Tribescaler, Through The Noise & Twitter - Alex Banks
Alex Banks is a digital entrepreneur building: Tribescaler to over $10k MRR & Throu The Noise to over 17k newsletter subscribers. Having quit the corporate life, Alex has pursued digital entrepreneurship and has landed primarily in the field of AI where he both builds through Tribescaler and...
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EP16 - 10 Years of Chronic Pain; Overcoming Extreme Discomfort - Kirsten Moodie
Today's episode details the experience of Kirsten Moodie & her long journey through understanding her chronic pain & how to deal with it. While initially she was showered with bandaid solutions and a plethora of drugs, she's ultimately found that a holistic approach that focuses directly on...
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EP15 - $10k/pm @ 20 years old; High Ticket Sales - Warren Mulvey
Warren Mulvey has a super inspiring story - going from working barely minimum wage jobs at 20 years old to making over $10k per month less than a year later. We talk about D2D sales in miserable Ireland, the importance of a gameplan and how sales has affected his life outside of work. If you want...
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EP14 - Losing £80k in 6 Hours; Crypto & Responsibility - Andrew Lawson
Episode 14 of ThisThat Podcast is with Andrew Lawson (my brother). He's made buckets in crypto, lost £80k in 6 hours, travelled the world, done everything under the sun & now is finding more peace and tranquility in his life at age 26.
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Celebrating Craftsmanship & Taking Furniture From Concept To Reality
Episode 13 hails from a good friend & designer of mine Remi Dubois. To summarise the episode: travels in Nepal, making awesome Japanese cabinets, finding fulfilment in work. To see more of Remi's work, head over here: https://www.instagram.com/remi_dubois_design/
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Quitting The Safety Net To Pursue Trading w/Kyle Mair
Today we get to look inside the mind of one of the bolder people I know. We talk about risk tolerance, quitting jobs to increase the pressure to succeed and our hunger for wanting more out of life. For new listeners we delve in to the complexities of Forex Trading, the AMC/GME short squeeze & the...
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How To Get Started In A Saturated Acting Industry w/Cassie Patman
As per title. Excuse my toes.
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Innovation In The Personal Training Industry w/Sam Larkworthy
Today's episode details exactly how Sam Larkworthy got started as a Personal Trainer in Melbourne. He takes an evidence based approach to fitness - using biomechanics and a psychology background to motivate and get the best out of his clients. We talk everything from ideal rep range, advice for…
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ThisThat #9 | Running Marathons, Navigating the Advertising Industry & The Importance of Self-Honesty
Episode 9 is with my housemate Nakita Podreka here in Melbourne, Australia. At 24 she works as a brand assistant within a massive advertising agency and encapsulates the idea of the 'young professional'. She speaks on the best and worst things about the industry, what personalities are most…
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ThisThat #8 | British Navy Weapons Engineer, Microbots & Crocs in Sports Mode
Probably the funniest conversation I've had to date on the pod. What I love most about the podcast format is how much I find out about friends that I wouldn't over something simple such as a coffee or a beer. Perhaps formalities useful even in the most informal of circumstances.
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ThisThat #7 | DevOps, Climbing & RuneScape Thievery
Episode 7 is with an ex-flatmate and good friend from back home - Nathan Goutcher. Aside from working with one of the major financial institutions, he's also sparked a recent interest in climbing, bouldering and stealing all of my runescape armour.
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ThisThat #6 | Music Journalism, Secret Bookshops & European Discovery
Episode 6 is with my good friend Gemma Murphy - a student journalist with a passion for adventure, travelling, writing, reading, social rights & the term "my guy".
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ThisThat #5 | Sensible Men, Patrick Bateman & Risky Decisions
Episode 5 is with a very good friend of mine - Mathew Steeples. We talk about a shared love/nostalgia for motorsports, our propensity for risk & the psychological makeup of big 4 employees (all amidst a sea of technical difficulties).
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ThisThat #4 | Sheer Nonsense, Naked Running & Trading MemeCoins
My brother Andrew joins me for episode 4 of the podcast where we talk about pretty much everything bar but we're supposed to.
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ThisThat #3 | French Boats, Spanish Coffee, Scottish Men - Getting Started In The Private Yacht Club
Dylan Alexander relays his experience of the private yacht life from an engineer's perspective.
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Episode 2 - Legalities, Coffee in Melbourne, Staying Sober
A quick update, longer episode, getting the gears going
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Selfishly exploring 'success' from the naive viewpoint that only an overly optimistic 23yo can provide. Not sure what to do with your life? Me neither. Join me as I explore the central theme of success across different disciplines that pique my curiosity:→ entrepreneurship→ music/music production→ creators→ actors/filmmaking→ self-development → fitness/health→ philosophy→ travelling/adventureMy goal is to humanise the idea of 'success' - to understand the WHY & HOW behind the people from different disciplines.
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Liam Lawson
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Selfishly exploring 'success' from the naive viewpoint that only an overly optimistic 23yo can provide. Not sure what to do with your life? Me neither. Join me as I explore the central theme of success across different disciplines that pique my curiosity:→ entrepreneurship→ music/music production→...
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