PODCAST · business
Those Who Wander - by NS
by Nayla Sabbagh
A podcast for those who left the traditional path to build something meaningful. Through honest conversations with founders and dreamers, we explore the real stories behind the leap, the doubts, detours, and small wins that shape the journey. Whether you’re already wandering or still dreaming, you’re not alone, you’re in good company here.
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Nabil Moutran, Founder and CEO of Division
There are more than 3.3 billion gamers worldwide, and the gaming industry is expected to generate nearly $189 billion in revenue, making it one of the biggest entertainment industries on the planet.And in the Middle East alone, the gaming market is exploding, with tens of millions of gamers and rapid growth across the region.In this episode of Those Who Wander, I sit down with Nabil Moutran, founder and CEO of Division, a gaming media agency operating right at the intersection of brands, content, and this massive audience.We talk about what it really takes to build and run a company in a fast-moving industry, from choosing the right partners to making tough decisions about the people who stay and the ones who need to leave. Nabil opens up about the realities behind managing a business, the lows every founder faces, and how to bounce back when things don’t go as planned.If you want to understand the power of gaming audiences and the grit behind building a company in this space, this conversation is for you.
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Nassib Sawaya, Co-founder of Koonoo Coffee
In this episode of Those Who Wander, I’m joined by Nassib Sawaya, co-founder of Koonoo Coffee, to unpack what it really takes to build a brand from the ground up. We talk openly about the highs and lows of entrepreneurship — from finances and hard decisions to the emotional toll of creating something you deeply believe in.We also dive into the world of specialty coffee: what sets it apart, how it’s made, and what it takes to build a coffee brand from scratch that is up to par and does specialty coffee justice. It’s an honest conversation about passion, perseverance, and the realities behind the cup.
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Hisham Jaber, Founder of The Healthy Home & IEQ Technologies
Are you as healthy as you think you are?In this episode of Those Who Wander, I sit down with Hisham Jaber, Founder of The Healthy Home, to uncover what “living healthy” really means — beyond diet and workouts. We talk about his journey as a founder, how Covid reshaped his business, and the hidden truth about the air we breathe and the spaces we live in.You’ll be fascinated by some of the facts he shares about Dubai’s environment — and inspired by his story of resilience, reinvention, and purpose. This episode will make you rethink what a truly healthy life looks like.
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Jo Kheil, Founder of Jo's Kitschen, Co-founder of Trés Amis
Food is life — and for me, gathering around it is where the real bonding happens. That’s why I loved this episode with Jo Kheil, Founder of Jo’s Kitschen and Co-founder of Trés Amis. Through wit, sarcasm, and laughter, we dive into her journey from the fast-paced world of media to culinary school and supper clubs, slowly trading in the 9–5 for her true passion.Jo opens up about the highs and joys, but also the loneliness, burnout, and struggle of balancing personal and entrepreneurial life. We swap stories, lessons, and plenty of tips on staying focused and organized — while also lifting the curtain on the secret struggles so many founders quietly carry.Watch until the end for the surprise question from Esther Perel's epic cards game.
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Fares Lteif and Sami Moutran, co-founders of Fluuky
In this episode of Those Who Wander, I sit down with Fares Lteif and Sami Moutran, co-founders and co-CEOs of Fluuky — where luxury meets philanthropy. What began as a simple desire to pamper themselves grew into a venture that blends indulgence with impact.Fares and Sami open up about the realities of entrepreneurship: burnout, random ideas, navigating partner contracts, and the risks that come with putting friendships and family ties on the line. We also discuss what kind of support is truly needed to reach a level where you can sustain building a venture.From the joy of creating something meaningful to the inevitable burns along the way, this is a candid look at what it takes to chase — and keep chasing — a vision you believe in.
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Flora Castillon, Founder - Leadership & Mindset Coach
In this episode, I sit down with Flora Castillon — Founder, Leadership & Mindset Coach — to explore a journey that begins at rock bottom and leads to deep transformation.Flora opens up about burning out in the corporate world, facing financial uncertainty, and feeling completely lost — only to rebuild from that place and find her true calling. We talk about the power of mindset, the mistakes and breakthroughs along the way, and how she turned her experience into a community, or "sisterhood" as she calls it, that now supports other women on their own paths.It’s a conversation about navigating life through resilience, reinvention, and leading with heart.
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Nadine Mezher, Co-founder of Sarwa
In this episode, I sit down with Nadine Mezher, co-founder of Sarwa — the groundbreaking investment and personal finance platform born in Dubai. Nadine shares her inspiring journey as a mother, a serial entrepreneur, and a bold disruptor in the financial industry. We dive into the challenges and triumphs of building a business, the realities of being a woman in finance, and what it means to balance ambition with motherhood, and death, yes, you read it right. Stay tuned til the end!
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Jad Halaoui, Co-founder of Washmen
In this episode, Jad Halawi, co-founder of Washmen, shares his journey from leaving a stable career in the oil and gas industry at 26, to launching one of the region’s most recognized laundry startup in Dubai, to navigating the realities of running a business.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
A podcast for those who left the traditional path to build something meaningful. Through honest conversations with founders and dreamers, we explore the real stories behind the leap, the doubts, detours, and small wins that shape the journey. Whether you’re already wandering or still dreaming, you’re not alone, you’re in good company here.
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Nayla Sabbagh
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