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INTRODUCING Quarantine Nation. A lethal virus. A drastic lockdown. A nation turned upside down.  Is it really six years since Adam and Eugene were stuck at home and started making Coronavirus NZ – a daily podcast about Covid, which then morphed into the election podcast Tick.Tick? Well, yes it is. And now the've gone and made a whole new eight-part narrative series about Covid. So ... in the unlikely event your smartphone is still delivering you episodes on the Tick.Tick/Coronavirus feed, we'd like to reward your loyalty with the chance to hear ep 1 of this new pod: QUARANTINE NATION. If you like it, there's another whole 7 eps in the series, so go subscribe to Quarantine Nation wherever you get your podcasts, or follow the links on this page: ⁠Quarantine Nation Player Links⁠, Made with the support of NZ on Air for Stuff by Te Pūrongo Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Looking for your new favourite politics pod? Look no further! Tova is back for 2024. In this weeks episode, Tova brings you the full story of one of the most significant Waitangi weekends for many years. Like what you're hearing? Follow on Apple or Spotify to make sure you don't miss an episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sure, Tick Tick is 'Stuff's 2020 Election Podcast', but we never specified WHICH country's election, did we? So, now that NZ's electoral process is pretty much wound up, we turn our attention to the rolling maul that is the 2020 US presidential election. What’s it all about? Is Trump really that bad? What on earth is the electoral college? And why is Eugene expressing his gratitude to an oven-cooked tuber in the medium of song? Special (American) guests: columnist Tracey Barnett and politics senior lecturer Dr Maria Armoudian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So that’s it, Tick Tickers – the election’s over. Yet many questions remain about the shape and direction of New Zealand’s new government. So we get the lowdown from Stuff political editor Luke Malpass and senior reporter Andrea Vance. Then we check in with Covid-19 modeller Dr Shaun Hendy to find out what the virus has in store for the coming three years. Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One day out from New Zealand’s 2020 election, Associate Professor Grant Duncan assesses the mood of the nation, and also warns what might follow if this is indeed Winston Peters’ last stand. Stuff’s Pou Tiaki editor Carmen Parahi joins us to explain what to watch in the Māori seats – and the intriguing tactical voting possibly at play. And Adam serves up a very special word soup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the Tick Tick back-catalogue: Come join us on a whistle-stop tour of NZ’s voting system, featuring dogs in polling places, babies in perambulators, and a trip deep into the Indian jungle. Seriously! Plus Adam and Eugene re-enact a dramatic political storming-out. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two ticks good – four ticks better. Alongside the general election this year, New Zealanders get to vote on two referendum questions - one about euthanasia and the other about cannabis. A week out from polling day, Adam and Eugene hit the streets to ask voters if there are things they need to know before they make their choices. And then, with the help of Stuff reporters Hannah Martin and Joel MacManus, they find the answers. Plus: David Seymour and Chlöe Swarbrick get just 90 seconds each to make their last-minute cases. Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the side of the stage minutes before the leaders went head-to-head, to the corridors swarming with diplomatic protection squad police, Adam and Eugene had back stage passes at The Press Leaders Debate. In this special episode, they bring you all the colour, and ponder what it all means. With polling day looming, what did it tell us about Jacinda Ardern and Judith Collins? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tick. Tick flies south for round three of the Ardern-vs-Collins clashes: the infamous Press Leaders Debate. A full-length behind-the-scenes episode is coming very, very soon – but while you’re waiting, here’s a quick-fire late-night breakdown of the debate, featuring analysis from Andrea Vance and Carol Hirschfeld, and another rich serving of Adam’s leaders-debate word-soup. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Polls are like drugs to political junkies, providing ever-higher highs the closer the election gets. But are they as reliable as some people think – or should they be banned, like others say? Pollster David Farrar, who carries out private polls for National, joins the show to explain the good, the bad and the ugly of polls. We also put him on the spot to predict the election outcome, and set out how National could win. Adam and Eugene give the flaming wheel of policy another spin, and enjoy a banger of a politics playlist. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They're back – and this time they've drunk more coffee. Stuff senior journalist Andrea Vance joins us to break down the Newshub leaders debate. And National’s finance spokesman Paul Goldsmith gives us a frank interview about the origin of the fiscal flaw which has overshadowed National’s campaign, why he got into politics in the first place, and why urinals really are a good place to seek career advice. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the campaign heats up, the heat rises online and, well, the trolls come out. Ugh. And the most-impacted are the women running for office. We talk to Kasey Machin and Jacqueline Comer, two of the people behind ParityBOTNZ, an online innovation to counter the ugliness. We also bring out the Flaming Wheel of Policy, and bust out a mix of the leaders’ debate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the aftermath of the first leaders' debate, Stuff political editor Luke Malpass chats with Adam and Eugene about what we learned. ANZ chief economist Sharon Zollner joins the show to explain the size of the economic hole we’re in and whether there’s anything much politicians can do about it. Eugene busts out a new song. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Covid has messed up the campaign season, so this year the big election debates matter more than ever before. Labour insider Stephen Mills takes us backstage. Mihingarangi Forbes, host of the Hui Pōti 2020 debates, shares her rules for debate participants. And champion debater Brooke Kinajil-Moran explains what it takes to win. Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker Trevor Mallard joins the show to discuss what it’s like to referee MPs, Parliament’s reputation as a toxic workplace, and what his own future holds. Adam dissects the new party campaign ads, and Eugene dusts off some political trivia. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the fourth of our political party leader interviews, Stuff senior journalist Andrea Vance and Political Editor Luke Malpass sit down with Greens co-leaders Marama Davidson and James Shaw. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When there's a serial liar in the White House, a New Zealand prime minister who is difficult to confront, and an Opposition that’s accused of stoking conspiracy theories, how do voters figure out the truth? Journalist and newsroom consultant Peter Bale joins the show to discuss the art of fact-checking in the "post-truth" era. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Associated Press correspondent Nick Perry joins the show to give his unique insight into New Zealand’s obsession with what the world thinks of us and our politics – and how Jacindamania has affected that. And Adam gives Eugene an English lesson … again. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the election season cranks up again, politicians’ sales pitches to voters are being carefully crafted. And political leaders are busy trying to convince you of their leadership qualities through subtle and not-so-subtle means. Professor Claire Robinson researches political communication and joins the show to tell us what she’s spotting. Adam and Eugene reminisce about an awkward political moment from the past. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, there was a false start because of the pandemic delay, but the New Zealand election is coming! In the build-up to the October 17 vote, an army of people are preparing as best they can – coronavirus permitting. Adam and Eugene check in with how preparations are going, what will be different this year, and what YOU need to do. They also find some hidden nuggets in the history vaults, take a detour to the Indian jungle, hear where New Zealand’s most expensive votes are cast, and learn why some people just don’t vote. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who knew there were so many ways to talk about face-coverings? An ethicist comes on the show to help examine the moral choices we’re making when we strap on a mask – or don’t. Meanwhile, Stuff national correspondent Andrea Vance analyses the political ramifications of the latest lockdown extension, and Adam reminisces about past sewing glories. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage. Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter. Support Stuff. Our email: [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam and Eugene take a close look at whether New Zealand’s election in 2020 is at risk of foreign interference. Dr Robert Patman of Otago University, and data analyst David Hood have been examining the issue and have come up with some surprising conclusions and interesting discoveries. Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage. Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter. Support Stuff. Our email: [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the third of our political party leader interviews Stuff political editor Luke Malpass and senior journalist Andrea Vance sit down with ACT leader David Seymour. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Investigative journalist and filmmaker David Farrier joins the show to explain where the latest wild conspiracy claims are coming from, and who's propagating them. Meanwhile, Stuff chief political reporter Henry Cooke lays out the repercussions of the election date's shift to October 17. And Adam and Eugene get to grips with the mask debate: which fabric looks best? Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Description: On Thursday afternoon, with New Zealand on heightened Covid alert, Stuff senior journalist Andrea Vance and political editor Luke Malpass sat down with National leader Judith Collins. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, once upon a time there was a podcast called Coronavirus NZ that mutated into the Tick. Tick election podcast. But now, with New Zealand experiencing its first community transmission of Covid-19 in more than 100 days, Adam and Eugene jump back into familiar territory. Dr Shaun Hendy joins the show to discuss what all this means, and where we are likely headed, and Stuff political editor Luke Malpass explains the implications for the election, Parliament and politics in general. Also, where are the teddy bears? Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No matter how the votes fall, New Zealand is pretty much guaranteed to start the next electoral term with a woman as prime minister, and a woman as leader of the opposition. Political scientist Dr Jennifer Curtin joins the show to explain why sex still matters. Stuff political reporter Thomas Coughlan tells us why the policy pantry is so bare. And Adam and Eugene contemplate the threat of an executive order. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the first of our party leader interviews, Stuff senior journalist Andrea Vance and Political Editor Luke Malpass sit down with Labour leader Jacinda Ardern. Adam and Eugene review the week, and Adam holds Eugene to account. Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are plenty of political books on sale for voters keen on some election reading material. With Judith Collins’ memoir and several Jacinda Ardern biographies in the stores, Adam and Eugene inspect the sales figures. Who is winning the Battle of the Books - or do we have to wait for the final chapter? Meanwhile, what’s up with all the conspiracy theories coming to prominence? Links: Click here for every episode of the Tick. Tick. podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As we head towards the pointy end of the New Zealand general election campaign, Associate Professor Grant Duncan joins the show to tell us what’s on voters’ minds and how a survey has revealed how polarised the country is along party lines. Meanwhile Adam and Eugene set the scene for the next few weeks, looking back (a surprisingly long way) to explain how we got here. Links: Click here for every episode of Tick.Tick podcast. Full Stuff election coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, Adam and Eugene have got an announcement to make. The Coronavirus NZ podcast has turned into a chrysalis and is about to emerge as a brand new beautiful podcast covering the 2020 New Zealand General Election. In this trailer, Adam and Eugene outline a little bit of what you can expect. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr Helen Petousis-Harris knows all about vaccines, and she’s been watching closely as scientists around the world try to find a coronavirus-killer. So, when the breakthrough comes, what happens next? And how prepared is New Zealand? Meanwhile, Adam gets bumped, and Eugene takes flight. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Stuff journalist Amy Maas moved to New York last year. Within months the city that never sleeps was almost unrecognisable. She describes what it was like to live in New York as it became an epicentre for the coronavirus. Eugene and Adam delve into a round-up of recent scientific developments, and one of them can’t help himself from bursting into song – and no it’s not Thank You Baked Potato. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New Zealander Anna Fifield, the Washington Post’s Beijing bureau chief, has recently returned to China. She describes what it’s like on the ground in the country where the virus began, and where so much is riding on what happens next. And she gives us the lowdown on the menu inside China’s 14-day hotel quarantine. Meanwhile, Adam and Eugene discuss whether Adam is infectious. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Anna Fifield in the Washington Post Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr Rod Jackson is a professor of epidemiology at Auckland University, so, not someone you'd expect to have been happy about the border bungles at the coronavirus quarantine and isolation facilities. But he was – and he joins the show to explain: hear him out and you might agree. He also talks about a statistical measure shedding light on the impact of the virus, and how he became a YouTube hit. Meanwhile Adam and Eugene discuss the unexpected side-effects of experimenting on your kids. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff I’m sorry Rod Jackson parody Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scientists in New Zealand have been growing and studying the virus that causes Covid-19. Why would they do that, and what’s it like to knowingly be in the same room as this deadly organism? ESR senior scientist Lauren Jelley joins the show to explain all, and how a Hollywood movie about a viral outbreak set her on a path to the lab. Meanwhile Adam and Eugene imagine what might have been. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff3 Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In six months we’ve learned so much about the virus that causes Covid-19 but there’s still so much that seems unclear. And one of the biggest questions is: how much should we worry about asymptomatic cases? Dr Siouxsie Wiles joins the show to explain what we know – and don’t know. She also takes a look at this week’s border bungles, and the risks that remain. Meanwhile Adam and Eugene propose a death metal cover of Thank You Baked Potato. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague Playlist: Cattle Decapitation, Bring Back the Plague Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So, it seems we’ve all-but eliminated coronavirus – but what risk is there of a second wave? Dr Shaun Hendy joins the show to explain where the weak points are, and how community transmission could get away on us. Stuff National Correspondent Katie Kenny has discovered there’s not as much transparency about the wage subsidy as we thought. And Eugene and Adam talk sport. No, really. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague playlist: William Shatner, Common People Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We might be in level 1, but that doesn’t mean the stress of this global pandemic has disappeared. Job losses, worry for family – it can be hard. Mental health advocate Taimi Allan joins the show to talk about coping strategies – and what to do when people ask you for help. Stuff senior reporter Andrea Vance explains why we should worry about the authoritarian ways of lockdown life. And Adam and Eugene burst into song. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keeping track of where we’ve been is going to be one of the “Golden Rules” of Alert Level 1. So why is the government’s official contact-tracing app proving to be such a flop? Stuff’s Brittney Deguara finds out why the app isn’t making the impact it should. Senior reporter Tom Hunt looks into why film crews got special permission to cross our closed border – and why other people didn’t. And Adam finds a hidden musical treasure. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Plague Playlist: Jack Buchanan, Welcome to the Kitchen Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The race is on to establish a Trans-Tasman bubble, but meanwhile our Pacific neighbours are in strife. Cook Islands News editor Jonathan Milne joins the show to talk about pandemic life in Rarotonga, the impact on the country’s tourism-dependent economy, and NZ’s paternalistic attitudes. Stuff’s Alison Mau reports on what Kiwi-style bubbles could teach other countries fighting the virus. And Adam toys with the idea of reviving a famous investigation. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Plague Playlist: Band of the Pacific Tūtira mai ngā iwi Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Professor Juliet Gerrard has the ear of the Prime Minister when it comes to science – that’s her job: chief science advisor. She’s been monitoring the virus since early January, and comparing notes with top government scientists from around the globe. In this extended interview, she talks about the view from inside the government’s Covid-19 machine and what it’s like when scientists become more high-profile than All Blacks – and reveals her lockdown baking habits. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Plague Playlist: Shirley Serban, Moist Breath Zone Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Remember that simpler time when we were just worried about the catastrophic warming of the planet? Stuff’s climate change editor Eloise Gibson explains what impact global Covid-19 lockdowns have had on the Earth, and what opportunities they might present. Stuff business reporter Susan Edmunds raises an eyebrow at the Government’s new two-tier benefits system. And Eugene faces the toughest interview he’s ever encountered. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Professor Simon Kingham, the chief science advisor to the Ministry of Transport, says coronavirus has already changed the way we move about, and there’s more change to come. He talks about the future of transport – and his role in advising the UK government on its border and quarantine plans. Steve Kilgallon has been looking into how lockdown meant very different things for white and blue collar workers. And Adam and Eugene download the tracing app and are shocked to discover it’s not half as fun as Dragonball Z. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The World Health Organisation has warned the virus which causes Covid-19 may stick around forever, and become an “endemic” disease. Dr Heather Hendrickson joins the show to explain what that means – and how endemic viruses behave. Stuff national correspondent Katie Kenny previews the new government app that’s meant to simplify contact tracing. And Adam watches an old movie which – get this – is based on the crazy premise of a virus bringing the world to its knees. As if! Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Theatre legend, Equity president and 2020 New Zealander of the Year Jennifer Te Atamira Ward-Lealand reveals how performing artists have coped with the shutdown of every venue in the country (which in her case includes staging a play on Zoom instead). Stuff’s Kylie Klein-Nixon bids a bittersweet farewell to lockdown karaoke, baking and dog-walks. And Eugene is very rude about Adam’s hair. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In an extended interview, deputy PM and foreign minister Winston Peters reveals how Chinese officials pushed back against New Zealand entering lockdown. He discusses the huge operation to repatriate Kiwis and the government’s fears that the returnees might bring Covid-19 infection back home with them, and shares his lockdown foraging secrets. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

China and the US were already scrapping before Covid-19 came along, and now they’re blaming each other for the virus. International relations expert Professor Robert Patman of Otago University explains what’s behind the name-calling – and why the post-Covid global order could favour small countries like New Zealand. Stuff reporter John Anthony breaks down the breakdown of Air New Zealand. And Adam waits for a courier package. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague Playlist: Lanigan’s Ball, Covid-19 style, by Cyril Dermot’s brother Ryan Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lockdown was, by the government’s own account, “the most significant and widespread interference with human rights in New Zealand in living memory”. Even so we mostly went along with it because the public health argument was compelling. But what of the legal argument? Stuff political reporter Thomas Coughlan joins the show to explain why the law behind lockdown is being debated. George Block reveals the curious case of a positive test with a difference. And Eugene seizes another excuse to sing, “Thank you Baked Potato”. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague Playlist: Matt Lucas as Boris Johnson That Finnish study about music Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr Ayesha Verrall was the scientist called in to the Ministry of Health to make a critical audit of the country’s contact-tracing system – and she found it wanting. She joins the show to talk about why contact tracing is still so important, and whether the country is ready for this week’s move to level 2. Steve Kilgallon reveals the surprise twist which has kicked the events industry while they’re down. And Adam has fun with a political Plague Playlist offering. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague Playlist: Donald Trump x REM - Losing My Civilians Our email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices