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TODOS Podcast
by TODOS Mathematics for ALL
The TODOS: Mathematics for ALL Podcast amplifies the mission of TODOS through conversations exploring the intersection of mathematics education, social justice, and identity. Season 5 brings together in new host Shakiyya Bland to join Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku as they explore the TODOS publication, Antiracist Mathematics Education: Stories of Acknowledgement, Action, and Accountability. Each episode features conversations with select book's chapter authors, diving into the ideas, stories, and classroom realities behind the work. The season is organized around the book's four sections: Students, Administrators, Teachers, and Parents/Caregivers & Community Members, and serves as an audio companion for the TODOS Book Club, running from September 2025 through June 2026. Join us in these conversations, these personal narratives, grounded in the real experiences of people doing this work. Whether you're reading along with the Book Club or simply curiou
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S5E8 TODOS Book Club with Luz Maldonado Rodríguez and Monica Gonzalez
This is it, the last episode of Season 5! Theodore, Shari, and Shakiyya close out the season with a conversation about the TODOS Book Club, the year-long companion project that ran alongside the podcast all season. Theodore and Shari sit down with Luz Maldonado Rodríguez, a professor at Texas…
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S5E7 Editing the Antiracist Mathematics Education Book
In this episode, hosts Teddy Chao, Shari Kaku, and Shakiyya Bland sit down with the editorial team behind Antiracist Mathematics Education: Building a Practice of Equity and Justice, the TODOS publication that anchors this entire season of the podcast. It turns out this is the first time the four...
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S5E6: Equity Math Modeling with Delia Sotelo Fierros and Jennifer Suh
What does it look like when elementary students use math to make sense of their own communities? In this episode, hosts Shari Kaku and Shakiyya Bland sit down with Dr. Jennifer Suh, Professor of Mathematics Education at George Mason University, and Delia Sotelo Fierros, a third-grade teacher in...
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S5E5: Cracking the Code with Sylvia Celedón-Pattichis, Carlos LópezLeiva, and Marios Pattichis
What happens when mathematics, computer programming, and bilingual education come together in an afterschool program for Latine elementary students? And what does it look like when those same kids become the teachers? In this episode, Theodore sits down with three co-authors of Chapter 10…
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S5E4: How Administrators Make a Difference with John Staley & Denise Thornton
In this episode, John Staley and Denise Thornton share how administrators can create antiracist mathematics spaces by prioritizing relationships and showing up for students. John reflects on his early teaching at a juvenile correctional facility, where he learned that it's not about the math…
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S5E3: Grounded in Place with Guadalupe Lozano
In this episode, we delve into the world of place-based mathematics education with Guadalupe I. Lozano, author of Grounded in Place: A Culturally Affirming Precalculus Curriculum, the first chapter in the TODOS Antiracist Mathematics Education book. New host, Dr. Shakiyya Bland joins Shari Kaku…
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S5E2: Enacting Antiracist Teaching Practices through Math Modeling with Will Tidwell
In this episode of the TODOS Podcast, Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku engage in a profound discussion with Dr. Will Tidwell about the intersection of mathematical modeling and social justice. Dr. Tidwell was part of the authorship team of Drs. Cynthia O. Anhalt, Ricardo Cortez, and Brynja Kohler who...
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S5E1: Teaser
In this first episode of Season 5 of the TODOS podcast, hosts Theodore Chao, Shakiyya Bland, and Shari Kaku introduce themselves and discuss their backgrounds in education and advocacy. They delve into the theme of Antiracist Mathematics Education, which connects to the recent book published by...
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S4E16 Season 4 Reflection
In this reflection episode of the TODOS podcast, hosts Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku discuss their experiences and insights from focus on Asian American identity within mathematics education. They explore the impact of the Teaching for Justice Conference, the implications of the model minority...
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S4E15: Susie Håkansson
In this powerful episode of the TODOS Podcast, legendary mathematics educator Susie Håkansson opens up about her Chinese American identity and what it was like growing up as a Toisan American in 1940s–50s Los Angeles. A pioneering leader with over 60 years of leadership in mathematics education,...
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S4E14: Rebalancing Math Education with Niral Shah
Dr. Niral Shah joins the TODOS Podcast to explore the complexities of Asian American identity in mathematics education. Reflecting on his experiences as a South Asian student and teacher, Shah unpacks how racialized narratives like the model minority myth both hypervisibilize and dehumanize Asian...
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S4E13: Home is the Pacific Islands with Richard Velasco
In this powerful episode, Dr. Richard Velasco shares his journey from Guam to the U.S. mainland and back—through teaching, research, and a deep sense of purpose. As a Filipino Guamanian mathematics educator, Richard reflects on growing up in a U.S. territory, navigating racialized spaces in...
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S4E12: Teaching, Community, and Change with Bobson Wong
What does it mean to build authentic, sustaining communities as a math educator—and why is it so hard to find those spaces? In this episode, we talk with Bobson Wong, a high school math teacher, local and national educational leader, and author of The Math Teacher’s Toolbox, about his ongoing...
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S4E11: The Role of Hope with Francis Su
In this episode, we sit down with renowned mathematician Francis Su to explore the intersections of Asian American identity, mathematics, and visibility. As the first non-white president of the Mathematical Association of America and author of Mathematics for Human Flourishing, Francis shares his...
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S4E10: Asian American Math SiSTARhood with Kari Kokka
What happens when three Asian American women math educators come together to reflect on their journeys, activism, and the role of mathematics in justice? In this powerful episode, Dr. Kari Kokka—math educator, social justice advocate, and former high school teacher—joins hosts Shari Kaku and...
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S4E9: Unfolding the Beauty of Math with David Masunaga
David Masunaga, geometry education expert, MC Escher enthusiast, and origami aficionado, shared his passion and creativity for student thinking in the classroom with Teddy and Shari. In this episode, David delves into his journey as an Asian American educator in Hawaiʻi, reflecting on the…
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S4E8: Solidarity with L.A. Teachers Eugene Hung and Janet Lee Ortiz
We change things up this episode. Due to the devastating wild fires in Southern California, we take some time to connect with two L.A.-based Asian American Mathematics Teachers. We start our conversation with Eugene Hung, a high school math teacher and advocate for women's rights. Then, we…
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S4E7: (Dis)Ability Justice in Mathematics with Paulo Tan
In this episode, Dr. Paulo Tan shares his powerful journey as a critical special education math educator navigating Asian American identity, assimilation, and advocacy for disability justice. Together with hosts Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku, Paulo reflects on the systemic inequities of…
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S4E1: Resistance Capital and Teaching for Justice with Naehee Kwun
The TODOS Podcast is back! Join us for a fresh new season with new hosts, Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku, as we dive into issues of equity in mathematics education through the lens of Asian American identity. In Episode 1, we chat with Naehee Kwun about her work as a social justice-oriented...
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S4E2: Building Your Teaching Community with Michelle Lo
In Episode 2, high school math teacher and TODOS Member Services Director, Michelle Lo shares her journey as a second-generation Taiwanese American navigating identity and teaching. Michelle reflects on the impact of her upbringing, the pressures of the model minority myth, and her commitment to...
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S4E1.5 Introducing Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku
Welcome to Season 4 of the TODOS: Mathematics for All Podcast, which explore how invisibility and hypervisibility impact the mathematics education of Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) communities. Meet the new hosts of the TODOS Podcasts, Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku, both Asian American...
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S4E3: Navigating and Supporting Asian and Latinx Mathematics Identities with Cindy Jong
This episode features Dr. Cindy Jong, Professor of Mathematics Education at the University of Kentucky. Cindy, who identifies as both Thai and Guatemalan, opens up about her experiences growing up biracial and how these intersecting racial identities and communities shaped her journey in...
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S4E6: Asian Math Immigrant Identities with Jiyeong Yi
In this reflective episode, Dr. Jiyeong Yi shares her remarkable journey from South Korea to becoming an Associate Professor of Mathematics Education at Iowa State University. Jiyeong discusses the intersections of her identity as a first-generation immigrant, a mother, and an educator navigating...
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S4E5: Filipino American Mathematics Leadership with Bernadette Salgarino
We sit down with Bernadette Salagrino, the first Filipino president of the California Math Council and a trailblazer in mathematics education. Ma Bernadette shares her journey from teaching in the Philippines to becoming a leading advocate for immigrant teachers and underrepresented students in…
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S4E4: Exploring Community Mathematics Play at Math On a Stick with Nolan Fossum
In this episode, we take a step away from our Asian American math journey to chat with TODOS Partnerships Director, Nolan Fossum, about his work as a visiting mathematician at the Minnesota State Fair’s Math on a Stick, curated by Christopher Danielson. Representing TODOS, Nolan reflects on how…
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S3E3: Positioning Multilingual Learners for Success: A Conversation with the Authors
We are so happy to finally have this episode out and in your ears, public! Back at the end of November Maria had a lovely conversation with 3 of the 4 authors of the book Teaching Math to Multilingual Students: Positioning Students for Success by Kathryn Chval, Erin Smith, Lina Trigos-Carillo…
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S3E2: TODOS Statement on LGBTQIA+ Persons w/Jon Oaks
This episode we are joined by Jon Oaks, Mathematics Professor at Macomb Community College, TODOS webmaster, and all-around renaissance man. You think I'm kidding, but you should see his website! We talk about the statement that TODOS released earlier this year on the need to make mathematics...
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S3E1: Choosing to See: A Framework for Equity, with Pamela Seda & Kyndall Allen Brown
We kick off season 3 with the authors of the recently published Choosing to See: A Framework for Equity in the Math Classroom. Pam and Kyndall share their mathematics stories with us, tell us about the book, highlights aspects of the equity framework, and in general share their accumulated…
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S2E14: Ethnomathematics at the University of Hawaii Manoa
Dr. Linda Furuto is a mathematics education professor at UofH Manoa. She is joined by two teachers who have participated in the Ethnomathematics Certificate program at UofH, Phil Fernandez Brennan and Lauren Nowak. Join cohosts Maria Zavala and Celine Liu to learn about the program, what...
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S2E13: Lesson Study in One California School District
What's lesson study? Do you do lesson study? Are you curious to learn more about the power and possibilities of lesson study as a tool for equity? Join Host Celine Liu in conversation with Karen Mayfield-Ingram, Mary Vongsavanh, and Sean McCarthy as they share stories from the Murrieta Valley...
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S2E12: Dani Wadlington on the Equitable Math Toolkit and HS Math Teaching
High School Mathematics Teacher and Quetzal Education Consultant Dani Wadlington shares her mathematics teaching story with host Celine Liu. Learn about the work this powerful mathematics teacher does in and out of her classroom, including her contributions to the Equitable Mathematics Toolkit…
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S2E11: The Possibilities of SEL + Mathematics w/ Tyrone Martinez-Black
Join our new co-host Celine Liu in conversation with Tyrone Martinez-Black of CASEL, as they discuss the impact of social-emotional learning on mathematics learning, and Ty's personal story of how an interest in art and design lead to a career in mathematics education. resource links: CASEL's...
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S2E10: TODOS Origin Stories with Nora, Bob & Susie
Do you ever wonder where an organization founded by and for teachers like TODOS comes from? Wonder no more! In this episodes, three people who have been with TODOS since its founding tell us about the origin of TODOS, the meeting, context, and support structures that started it all, and their...
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S2E9: Dr. Nicole Joseph, Advocate for Black Women in STEM and Beyond
Dr. Nicole M. Joseph is an assistant professor of mathematics and science education in the department of Teaching and Learning at Vanderbilt University. She is also the founder of the Tennessee March for Black Women in STEM, an event held every fall which seeks to bring together the Tennessee...
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S2E8: Robert Berry on Dismantling Mathematics Microagressions
You may know Robert Berry from one of his many roles in the field of mathematics education, to name a few: his award-winning middle school mathematics teaching, his research on standards-based mathematics learning and the M-SCAN, his past presidency of NCTM, and the recent publication of a book…
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S2E7: Shraddha Shirude on HS Math Teaching and Ethic Studies
High School Mathematics Teacher and Washington Ethnic Studies Now Secretary Director Shraddha Shirude joins host Maria Zavala for a discussion on her mathematics origin story, what it means to teach mathematics for/with ethnic studies, and how teachers can learn more about the ethnic studies...
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S2E6: Francesca Henderson, Just Equations' Math Educator in Residence
This episode Maria chats with Just Equations' new Mathematics Educator in Residence, Francesca Henderson. They talk about Francesca's love of mathematics, experiences as a teacher and administrator, her passion for social justice, and other topics relevant to our current distance learning crisis...
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S2E5: TODOS blog on Voting as a Topic for the Math Classroom
This episode we talk with the lead authors of the recent TODOS Blog post on voting, voter rights and suppression, and new considerations for voting in the time of COVID. Thank you to Dee Crescitelli, Juan Gerardo, Silvia Llamas-Flores and Carlos LópezLeiva. Read the entirety of the blog post at...
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S2E4: Organizing with Parents: A Conversation with Melissa Adams Corral
How do teachers and families work together towards educational change, utilizing organizing traditions? Melissa Adams Corral, a teacher from Texas who is now in graduate school at the Ohio State University, and who has a background in community organizing, shares her perspective and experiences...
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S2E3: Research on Multilingual Learners in Mathematics Classrooms
Today our guests are the guest editors of a new two-part special issue of Teaching for Excellence and Equity in Mathematics (TEEM)on multilingual learners in mathematics classrooms. Zandra de Araujo, Sara Roberts, Craig Willey and Bill Zahner as the talk about the new research articles,...
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S2E2: Teacher Voices, Part 2
What will the 2020-2021 school year be like? What are teachers looking forward to, worried about, hoping for their students' families and communities? In the second of a 2-part episode, 2 Spanish dual-immersion elementary school teachers share their thoughts as their school years begin. This...
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S2E1: Teacher Voices, Part 1
What will the 2020-2021 school year be like? What are teachers looking forward to, worried about, hoping for their students' families and communities? In the first of a 2-part episode, 3 high school mathematics teachers share their thoughts as their school years begin. Featuring: Ana Miguel,...
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S1E12: Mentoring Relationships with Kari Kokka and Briana Rodriguez
We end our first podcast season with a topic that is on all of our minds: relationships! How do we search for and cultivate meaningful professional relationships as mentors or mentees? What does it mean to decolonize the mentor/mentee relationship? Briana Rodriguez of Los Angeles, CA was a...
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S1E11: Health and Schooling in Pandemic Times: A Conversation with Farima Pour-Khorshid
How are you doing right now? What is the moment we are in and what might we reflect on prior to the start of a new school year? Dr. Farima Pour-Khorshid is a teacher, activist, and researcher in healing and wellness. She joined us for a conversation about health, teaching, and learning in…
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S1E10: Rethinking Assessment with Amanda Ruiz and Vanson Nguyen
What is meaningful mathematics assessment, particularly for high school and undergraduate mathematics courses? Is our current pandemic a good time to rethinking assessment practices? This episode features audio from the webinar they hosted on April 9, 2020, as well as audio from a conversation…
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S1E9: What is Luis Leyva Doing in Nashville?
Luis Antonio Leyva, Assistant Professor of Education at Vanderbilt University, joins us to share his work on transforming undergraduate mathematics classrooms to be spaces where relationships, identities, and intersectionality matters. From his roots in New Jersey, he tells us everything he's up…
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S1E8: A Conversation with Carlos Nicolas Gomez
Carlos Nicolas Gomez is an assistant professor of Mathematics Education at Clemson University. He joined host Maria Zavala for a conversation in early February on the research he is launching on elementary school Latinx students in the south and beyond. He talks about "failing" into teaching, and...
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S1E7: A Conversation with Marian Dingle
Marian Dingle is a mathematics teachers with over 21 years of experience teaching elementary school kids how to love themselves and love mathematics. She conversed with host Maria Zavala about schooling, mathematics, identities, and agency. She blogs at https://www.mariandingle.com/ and is on...
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S1E6: Multilingual Students in High School Math Classrooms
Many of us are familiar with techniques to support our multilingual (ie, English learning) students in our classrooms. But is what we are doing helping our students to learn mathematics while also learning English? In many schools, that twin focus on learning math and learning English is raising...
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S1E5: Just Equations
Today we focus on the world of mathematics education policy and talk with Pamela Burdman, Executive Director of Just Equations. Learn about the work of https://justequations.org/, and expand your knowledge of what's going on in the arena of policy and mathematics equity. Mentioned in this…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The TODOS: Mathematics for ALL Podcast amplifies the mission of TODOS through conversations exploring the intersection of mathematics education, social justice, and identity.
Season 5 brings together in new host Shakiyya Bland to join Theodore Chao and Shari Kaku as they explore the TODOS publication, Antiracist Mathematics Education: Stories of Acknowledgement, Action, and Accountability. Each episode features conversations with select book's chapter authors, diving into the ideas, stories, and classroom realities behind the work. The season is organized around the book's four sections: Students, Administrators, Teachers, and Parents/Caregivers & Community Members, and serves as an audio companion for the TODOS Book Club, running from September 2025 through June 2026.
Join us in these conversations, these personal narratives, grounded in the real experiences of people doing this work. Whether you're reading along with the Book Club or simply curiou
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