Trash & Treasures

Special thanks to Jester for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon. Hmm, a 2000s-era supernatural love triangle YA novel by a Utah-raised author with a lot of extremely unfortunate implications baked into the lore....this all sounds familiar, but we can't put our finger on it. Maybe it's just Pike specifically name-dropping Stephanie Meyer all over the place. If only this protagonist had as much going on internally as Bella Swan. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of disordered eating and fatphobia, ableism, racism, anti-vax rhetoric/alternate medicine, eugenics, body horror, sexual harassment, and misogyny Alex's YA Recs: https://theafictionado.wordpress.com/tag/book-recs/ 0:30 Commission! 2:00 Content Warnings 5:00 Drink Recipe 8:00 Stealth Mormonism 11:00 Our Stunning Perfect Heroine 18:00 Mmm, Gender Politics 23:00 Missing Body Horror 27:00 The Bad Boy One 32:00 Fairy Biology and Cosmology 41:00 Holy Eugenics Batman 47:00 A Climax Allegedly Ensues 56:00 The Shadow of Homeopathy Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Our summer celebration of Pride comes to a close (with many apologies for the delay) on a return to a familiar face: Jamie Babbit, best known for the landmark lesbian film BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER. Today we look at her 2007 follow-up, its deliberate attempts to introduce young viewers to the world of queer activism, and how well it achieves those goals. Also, the fact that you've probably never heard of it. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of misogyny, body-shaming, fatphobia, homophobia and gaybashing, transphobia, racism, infidelity, age-gap relationships, and war crimes. RAFIKI: https://www.kanopy.com/product/rafiki OF LOVE AND LAW: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/oflovelaw 1:00 Wolfe Media 10:00 “Clits in Action” 17:00 Generational Activism Divide 32:00 The Act Three Problem 39:00 The Ghost in the Film 44:00 Theory vs Accessibility 49:00 Bonus Recs Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Listen, this is a queer podcast 365 days a year. Pride Month won't be stopped by a little thing like June being over. It's time for the 90s, and the film its director describes as "an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 on acid." On the board for this episode: the difference between "queer representation" and "queer cinema," the queer reclaiming of mainstream genre work, and the pros and cons of making intensely of-the-moment art. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide, racism, child sexual abuse, homophobia+biphobia, religiosity, gore/animal death and body horror Variety Interview: https://variety.com/2019/tv/features/gregg-araki-starz-now-apocalypse-1203155576/ Black Is, Black Ain't: http://newsreel.org/video/BLACK-IS-BLACK-AINT Disclosure: https://www.netflix.com/title/81284247 Poison: https://zeitgeistfilms.com/film/poison 1:00 Intro to Araki + New Queer Cinema 12:00 24 Hours of “Nowhere” 14:00 Ethics and Young Actors 17:00 The Teen Soap Gang 22:00 Alien Invasion 26:00 At the Party 32:00 Nihilism and Vulnerability 37:00 Pop Culture Time Capsule 40:00 Fuck Harmony Korine Corner 45:00 Queer Cinema Recs Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

It's time at last to spotlight the patron saint of this podcast, the pope of filth himself: John Waters. While he's better known for Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble is the most potent and maybe the best of his 1970s work, a razor-sharp satire of heteronormative culture that can only flourish because it comes from such a tight team of collaborating artists and weirdos. But it's also worth asking: what happens when an outsider artist becomes a public figure? What does that new element of privilege do to their art and how they relate to the marginalized community they come from? CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, incest, homophobia, transphobia, child abuse (physical/emotional/sexual), cults, and ableism I Am Divine (Documentary; also on Netflix): https://vimeo.com/ondemand/iamdivinefilm Female Trouble Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5xziMBpf0Q Shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HjIljJd-o0 John Waters Interview (2015): https://www.indiewire.com/2015/08/john-waters-on-caitlyn-jenner-we-cant-make-fun-of-her-241129/ John Waters Interview (2018): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/08/john-waters-homotopia-festival-liverpool-manson-murders 1:00 John Waters and Filth 9:00 Divine and Gender 11:30 Content Warnings 13:00 The Life and Times of Dawn Davenport 26:00 Queer Satire 31:00 Modern Waters and Serial Mom 38:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Happy Pride Month, listeners! It's time for our annual four-episode journey through the history of queer film, and this year we'll be looking in particular at camp and outsider cinema. While Bride might be quite famous, it's also a perfect starting place for our discussion: director James Whale's camp masterpiece, which those who knew him spent years after his tragic death denying as a queer work (possibly, we suspect, because they feared it would be pigeonholed as "gay art" rather than cinema for everyone). Which leads to an even thornier question....how are queer artists pushed to define their audience? CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, sexual assault, homophobia, and suicide. The Hollywood Blacklist: http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/2016/06/21/blacklistarchive "Bela and Boris" Miniseries: http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/2017/11/21/belaandborisarchive 1:00 Pride Intro 2:30 The Code Era Returns 10:00 A MORAL Sequel, Dear Viewer 16:00 That’s Pretty Gay, Bro 29:00 Craving for Legitimacy 41:00 Listener Question Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

The sequel's still better. We revisit the weird double image of Magic Mike, a "quiet lives of desperation" dance movie that was marketed almost solely based on its five or six minutes of male strip revues. Which both sells the subtler moments of the script short and disguises the unmasked contempt that the film overall has for women. It's...well, listen. There's a reason we're covering it here. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of toxic masculinity, misogyny, sexual assault, racism, whorephobia, classism, biphobia, and Matthew McConaughey 1:00 Production Info 12:00 Class in 2012 15:00 About That Misogyny 25:00 SHAME SPIRAL feat. Biphobia 32:00 Toxic Masculinity Central 37:00 The Alleged Happy Ending 47:00 Should You Watch This ay hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We're back, and not a moment too soon; there's a twister in Kansas! As season two kicks off Clark gets boner powers and Pete finally gets a role in the plot, while Dr. Hamilton continues to mosey through his episodes being both inscrutable and delightful. Oh, and Lionel is blind now. It's handled as tactfully as you'd imagine. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, rape culture, misogyny, ableism, toxic masculinity, racism, and nationalism. 2:00 Bite-Sized Summaries 6:30 Monsters of the Week 31:00 Heart of the Show 34:00 And That’s Terrible 42:00 The Jukebox Say hi to the team on Twitter: @writervrai, @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Special thanks to Chelsea for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon. Today we were set a daunting challenge: find something that hasn't yet been said about infamous cinematic trainwreck Showgirls. As the modern conversation swings from "reclaimed camp" to "was it in fact Good Actually all along" following the release of the documentary YOU DON'T NOMI, it felt like time to wade into those claims. What the hell was Showigirls trying to do, anyway? CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, ableism, homophobia, misogyny, rape culture, sexual assault, whorephobia, fatphobia, drug use, ageism, and auteur bullshit. Showgirls! The Musical!: https://soundcloud.com/showgirlsthemusical You Don't Nomi: http://www.youdontnomifilm.com/ 0:30 Commission Stuff 3:00 Content Warnings 5:00 In Summary 18:30 Some Notes on Camp 24:00 Eszterhas v Verhoven 29:00 A Second Bite at Flashdance 40:00 Versayce (The Characterization Problem) 48:00 Showgirl History 52:00 Failed Satire Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

For our 100th mainline episode, we decided to look in on one of Dorothy's childhood favorites, a cult hit that inspires a mix of terror and deeply held affection in all who remember it. And since Dorothy is also a megafan of Baum's books, it also provided a chance to talk about how the Oz series has been adapted over the years. Thanks for 100 episodes, listeners, and here's to 100 more. Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, medical horror, body horror, the House of Mouse's Bullshit 1:00 Showing Our Age 5:00 Production Notes 15:00 From Book to Film 41:00 Many Adaptations 46:00 100 Episodes Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Special thanks to Anile for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon. This month we stretch our muscles by getting into some ~literary fiction~! More precisely, the work of Dennis Cooper, a big name in queer outsider art who influenced previous DBC alumni Billy Martin (aka Poppy Z Brite) and Chuck Palahniuk and whose published alongside inevitable future subject Brett Easton Ellis. FRISK, the story of a dude who has a lot of sex and even more fantasies about violently murdering his partners, is considered his most intimidating work so....let's plunge right into that deep end! Pack a bag, because we did a LOT of extra reading for this one. Also, all the content warnings. My God, all of them. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, pedophilia, coprophagia, water sports, snuff, necrophilia, graphic descriptions of gore/dismemberment, racism, queerphobia, transphobia, grooming, ageism, and misogyny. The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction: https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm The JT Leroy Scam: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2006/04/jtleroy200604 William S Burroughs' Nike Commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6LjfxSBqwM Cooper's Formalism and "The Sluts": https://electronicbookreview.com/essay/is-this-for-real-is-that-a-stupid-question-a-review-of-dennis-coopers-the-sluts/ Interview w/ Cooper's Biographer: https://minorliteratures.com/2020/07/16/the-dangerous-art-of-dennis-cooper-an-interview-with-diarmuid-hester-author-of-wrong-a-critical-biography-of-dennis-cooper-by-paul-jonathan/ Article BY Cooper's Biographer: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/dennis-cooper-the-last-literary-outlaw-in-mainstream-us-fiction-1.4274856 Personal Relationships in Cooper's Writing (Salon): https://www.salon.com/2000/05/04/cooper/ Cooper's Mother (LA Times): https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-apr-29-ca-cooper29-story.html BOMB Magazine Interview: https://bombmagazine.org/articles/dennis-cooper/ Not Like Other Gays (Honcho Magazine): https://slavamogutin.com/dennis-cooper/ 1:00 Content Warnings 4:00 Drinks 9:00 A Helpful Timeline 14:00 OH Shit, it’s the Frankfurt School 26:00 Sexual, Not Erotic 30:00 The Sad But Not Ballad of Dennis Cooper 42:00 “In Your Lane” vs “Blinkers On” 57:00 Interview Diving Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Yes, the actual name of this anime is either "My Sexual Harassment" or "Boku no Sekuhara," but we wanted our title to briefly capture the extremely mangled naming convention from the height of this title's memetic fame. Because anime fandom is, has always been, and will always be an embarrassment. We're looking at you, "Boku no Hero" people. For this year's horny Valentine special, we dove into the infamous yaoi OVA and how its creation in the 90s and popular English-language distribution in the 00s ended up having a ripple effect on how Western fandom conceives of BL even up to today. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, dubious consent, graphic sexual descriptions, and queerphobia Minotaur's Sex Tips for Slash Writers: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Sex_Tips_for_Slash_Writers Gentlemen Behold, Corn (AMV Hell): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GTo1zyQXmQ&ab_channel=amvhell Twittering Birds Never Fly: https://www.fanbyte.com/trending/twittering-birds-never-fly-is-engrossing-gay-yakuza-melodrama/ 1:00 Content Warnings and Production History 15:00 Bone Your Way to the Middle 28:30 Behold, Corn 32:30 Bad Porn Physics 38:30 Trailer Porn 45:00 Generational Market Shifts Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We made it to the end of season one! And then they left us with a cliffhanger! Rude! There continue to be Vibes we did not request. But on the bright side, John Glover came back to chew some more scenery, and that's always a fun time. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of police brutality, sexual assault, racism, incest 1:30 Bite-Sized Summary 4:00 Monsters of the Week 30:00 Wisdom from Pa Kent 34:45 Heart of the Show 40:30 And That's Terrible 54:00 The Jukebox Say hi to the team on Twitter: @writervrai, @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Our holiday gift to you, our dearest listeners, is a second bite at the meme, the myth, the legend: that terrifying dead-eyed snowman puppet animated by the trapped soul of Michael Keaton. And also a microbudget slasher. We figured we'd watch one basically watchable movie and one deeply uncomfortable one, and that's sure what we got! Also feat. cameos by all of the Zappa children, for some reason. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, existentialism/morbidity, graphic depiction of car crash death, grief, parental neglect, body horror/gore "Jack Frost" Fangoria Interview (Pages 34-37): https://archive.org/details/Fangoria_221 1:00 Battle of the Budgets 7:00 Absent Dad Films 14:00 Never Try, Kids 21:00 Best Bully Ever 26:00 The Sweet Release of Death 31:00 When Camp Fails 41:00 Framing and Audience Expectation Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Special thanks to Ceslatoil for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon. An academic specializing in fan studies and a trans media critic walk into a Harry Potter fanfic. Chaos ensues. In which we unpack the different structural needs of fanfics versus standalone works, the problem of only thinking through the implications of your bad guy twist halfway, and why all the most interesting characters are dead. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, queerphobia, transphobia, JK Rowling (the redundancy is noted), misogyny, ableism, and domestic abuse Russell Howard Reads 50 Shades of Gray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb1i0SD5mJk Ursula K Le Guin Roasts JK Rowling: https://twitter.com/ldrinkh20/status/1307519066001879040?s=20 Racism in Eleanor & Park: https://www.nupoliticalreview.com/2018/10/31/the-problem-with-eleanor-park/ 1:00 The Harry Potter Connection 6:00 Drinks! 8:00 Limited Scope of Fandoms Highlighted 21:00 Our Off-Brand Cast 30:00 Ladies and Queer Stuff 38:00 “The Worst Chosen One” 45:00 It’s About the Implications Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Special thanks to Roisin for commissioning this episode! You can find out more about commissions on our Patreon. In which two Star Trek fans -- one casual, one Deep -- reckon with a Star Trek movie made for people who hate Star Trek and pay homage to all the good fanwork this movie spawned before digging into the messy postmortem of the project itself. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of genocide, homophobia, and misogyny. Star Trek by Apple (the Dyson hand dryer shot): https://vraik.tumblr.com/post/632060689598562304/star-trek-2009-looked-like-this Choice AMVs Tik Tok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWaWrvJ7nA Hurt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeX-cXtmxAs So Close: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCVMD5j0uY 1:00 Trek History 12:00 JJ Abrams, Avowed Trek Hater 15:30 The AU Angle 22:00 Our nuCast 30:30 Enterprise by Apple 35:00 Insert Emotions Here 43:00 About Vulcan 48:00 Compliment Sandwich Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

In which an extra-large basket of episodes brings us dead little brothers, sex pollen, and the show somehow pulling out another shockingly decent plot about toxic masculinity. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of euthanasia, sexual assault, suicide, sexualization of minors, incest, grooming, child abuse, and misogyny. 2:00 Bite-Sized Summary 5:00 Monsters of the Week 29:00 Heart of the Show 37:30 And That’s Terrible 44:00 Wisdom From Pa Kent 50:00 Knock-Off Brand 51:00 The Jukebox 55:00 Best/Worst Say hi to the team on Twitter: @writervrai, @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

For our final October outing into horny horror (and if this movie isn't horror, we don't know what is), we looked at beloved cult classic and infamous banned film The Devils, which has been unavailable in its complete, uncensored form more or less since its filming in 1971. Buckets of criticism, including multiple books, have been written on the film, so we tried to tackle a subject we hadn't seen discussed much: how the women of The Devils are treated, both the actors and the historical figures on whom the film is supposedly based. We read books for this one! CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, sexual harassment, misogyny, religious abuse, torture, ableism, medical abuse, body horror. Hell on Earth documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeg1yIvalSo 1:00 To Set the Scene 4:30 A Possession at Loudon 12:00 Father Grandier, Shithead 17:00 Content Warnings 20:00 About Those Horny Nuns 26:00 And the Women Who Played Them 31:00 The Acceptable Masculinity 37:00 Legacy and Witchcraft 44:00 The Femur Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Back in 1943, a queer screenwriter penned a film about a woman struggling with her fear that she had unnatural urges waiting to reveal her as a monstrous beast. Forty years later, Paul "The Canyons" Schrader decided the best way to tackle reinterpreting that hidden gem would be to add incest and a lot of full frontal. It is, to say the least, A Lot. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, child abuse/child sexual abuse, animal cruelty, incest, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and body horror/gore. "Here Is What Happens When You Cast Lindsay Lohan in Your Movie" (Filming on The Canyons): https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/magazine/here-is-what-happens-when-you-cast-lindsay-lohan-in-your-movie.html 1:30 The Theory of Remakes 6:00 What is a Cat Person (40s Edition) 13:00 What is a Cat Person (80s Remix) 16:00 Siblings, You Say 22:00 WERE Animals Harmed? 27:00 Sexual Anxieties 33:00 Back on the Remake Rails 39:00 Schrader’s Work Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This week's episode was chosen by listener poll, and y'all did us a solid by choosing the post-quarantine horror film HOST. Everything about it is so deceptively simple that we predict a lot of imitators, but who knows if they'll be able to capture this hour-long film's charms. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of suicide, pandemic stuff, parental sexual abuse, ableism "Dawn of the Deaf" short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziqkD7iO-g 1:00 Background 4:00 Dawn of the Deaf 6:30 Zoom Horror 12:00 Séance Etiquette 16:00 And Then There Were… 24:00 Platform Hierarchies Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We return to the works of Billy Martin AKA Poppy Z Brite for a Crow tie-in novel that wants to say a lot about systemic oppression in the queer community but kind of trips over its own feet and then breaks every bone in its body. Which is certainly interesting to watch, if nothing else. This episode was commissioned by Anile! You can find out more about how to commission an episode by visiting patreon.com/trashandtreasures. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, queerphobia, transphobia, ableism, sexual assault, hate crimes, incest, infant death, natural disasters, dismemberment/gore, intimate partner abuse, grooming, pedophilia, alcoholism, and animal death. PROPAGANDA Magazine: https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Propaganda+Magazine%22 Brookes Photos: https://propagandamagazine-gothic.tumblr.com/post/626509824023232512/model-and-muse-by-fred-h-berger-of-all-the Lost Souls Episode: https://soundcloud.com/user-960635156/drunk-book-club-poppy-z-brites-lost-souls-1 1:00 Poppy Z Brite AKA Billy Martin 8:00 Today’s Drinks 11:30 Content Warnings 15:00 The Crow Franchise 20:00 A Brief Summary 26:00 90s “Deviance” Stories 31:00 The Importance of the Survivor 39:00 The Quietness of the Sheep 46:00 The True Crow 60:00 Depictions of Bigotry as Raw vs Lurid 70:00 The Case of Propaganda Magazine Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

In which we wish Whitney was actually a character who hadn't mostly existed offscreen up to now, so that we could actually sympathize with him, and even Michael Rosenbaum can't save this batch of scripts. Dorothy seemed ominously thrilled about the next batch, though... CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of brainwashing, sexual assault, suicide, rape culture, parental abuse, domestic abuse, queerphobia, and ableism 1:30 Micro-Summaries 3:30 Monsters of the Week 23:00 Heart of the Show 30:00 And That’s Terrible 33:30 Knock-Off Brand 36:00 The Jukebox Say hi to the team on Twitter: @writervrai, @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

In which our Very Special Guest Lynette brings us an ABC TV movie of the week from the halcyon year 1974. If you've seen lauded modern masterpiece The Boy, you may also be familiar with this movie's plot. We're pretty sure Palahniuk watched it, because it would explain many things about Fight Club. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, police VC Andrews Blog-o-rama: http://vcablogorama.blogspot.com/ 5th Dollanganger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/5thdollanganger 1:00 ABC Movie of the Week 8:00 Beloved Smother 17:00 Guest Room, Not an Attic 20:00 Haunted Real Estate Shopping 25:00 The Boy: The Premake 40:00 Yike: The Source Material Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We really had a great time watching this movie. It also, as you might expect from a film inspired by The Craft and written/directed by a cishet dude, has a lot to unpack. Let's dig into those good intentions, great moments, and bits of unintentional thematic whoops. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, abusive relationships, racism, misogyny, and transphobia. The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 1:00 Limits of a Cis Writer 8:00 The Craft, You Say 10:30 The First Night in LA 14:00 Duke as Lestat (and also Nancy) 21:00 But What About Men? 26:00 Theme Detectives 31:00 We Swear We Liked It Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This week brings us the film debut of Madeline Olnek, who longtime listeners might've heard us praising before for WILD NIGHTS WITH EMILY. While this is definitely a 90s time capsule even if it was filmed in 2011, it's also adorable to the nth degree. Not to mention how lovely it is to see a fat woman cast as the romantic lead. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of queerphobia, transphobia, misogyny The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 That BS Passive-Aggressive NYT Obituary of Activist Larry Kramer: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/larry-kramer-dead.html Interview with Holly Hughes: https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=ITOF&u=philly_free&id=GALE%7CA446292521&v=2.1&it=r&sid=ITOF&asid=a10b4001 Memories of the Revolution: The First Ten Years of the WOW Cafe Theater: https://books.google.com/books/about/Memories_of_the_Revolution.html?id=gyYXCwAAQBAJ 1:00 Lesbian Activist Theatre: The WOW Café 6:00 Stage to Screen Growing Pains 11:00 The Cheesecake Symbolizes Despair 17:00 Accidental Autistic-Coded Love Story 23:00 Queer Commentary Corner 34:00 Race to the Spaceship 40:00 Preserving Olnek’s Work Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We all know the set-up: a gay couple goes through an elaborate comedy of errors to hide their Big Secret from their parents, who've come to visit out of the blue. But in this case, the secret isn't that Stephen and Danny are in love...it's that they're hitmen for the mob, and they've been telling Stephen's parents they were caterers. Tough to google and impossible to stream (but fortunately pretty cheap on DVD), this one is a true gem of queer cinema that has been almost completely forgotten. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, homophobia, transphobia, police brutality The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 2:00 One-Hit Wonders 6:00 The Issue of Access 10:00 Gay Mafia Shenanigans 16:00 The Tyranny of Gender Roles 21:00 A Dinner Party Militia 36:00 The Ghost of Gay Ads Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai, @wannabefood Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This year's Pride theme was decided by vote, and y'all called for queer genre films--we're happy to provide. But tradition demands that we start with the oldest and stodgiest conventions to know our roots, and so we bring you a classic tale of a Repressed Murder Gay, written by highly regarded thriller writer (and lesbian) Patricia Highsmith. You're probably more familiar with the other movies based on her work (CAROL and STRANGERS ON A TRAIN), but Ripley is a pretty damn important figure in genre history. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of suicide, gaslighting, racism, hate crimes, homophobia, classism, and Gwyneth Paltrow's bullshit The Okra Project: https://www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: https://www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 Phyllis Nagy: “Being gay is Tom Ripley’s kryptonite” (TIFF Interview): https://www.tiff.net/the-review/phyllis-nagy-on-ripley 2:00 Pride Month 5:00 Patricia Highsmith’s Novels 11:30 Speakin of Carol 13:30 The Con is On 18:00 A Crime of Taste 22:00 Single White Male (feat. Gaslight) 28:00 Curse You, Irony 32:00 Ripley as Cultural Figure 37:00 Queerness and 90s Media 39:30 Ripley 2021 Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai, @wannabefood Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We swear we decided to read the book about a bunch of asshole writers trapped in a building while the world outside possibly dies of a pandemic all the way back in January. Still, if that subject -- as well as the laundry list of content warnings we've had to do up for Chuck "the Fight Club guy" Palahniuk-- isn't something you're up for right now, that's 110% understandable. We'll catch you on the next one. For everyone who wants a bit of a horrified scream-laugh though...we've got you covered. CONTENT WARNINGS: Discussion of sexual assault, child sexual abuse, racism, misogyny, mutilation, incest, transphobia, ableism, hate crimes, bestiality, animal death, depression, plague/disease imagery, suicide, cannibalism, gore, and bodily decay 1:00 Content Warnings 6:00 Liquor 8:00 Palahniuk and His Bullshit 16:00 The Masque of Red Death, Writers’ Retreat Edition 23:30 The Pool Drain Story 27:00 Misogyny Interlude I 37:00 Fuck the Innocent 42:00 Transphobic Violence I 47:00 The Nightmare Box 50:30 10/10 53:30 Transphobic Violence II 57:30 Some Catchall -isms 60:00 Misogyny Interlude II 66:00 Apocalypse Soonish Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

As is becoming tradition for this show, one actually pretty good episode is balanced out by a load of crap, and an accomplished horror star is doing The Most. Thanks for your service, Mr. Candyman, sir. Smallville would like to remind you that ACAB, until the next time that such a sentiment no longer directly affects Clark and is therefore inconvenient. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, sexual assault, stalking, police corruption/brutality, and misogyny 3:00 Bite-Sized 8:00 Monster of the Week 23:00 Heart of the Show 30:00 Wisdom from Pa Kent 40:00 And That’s Terrible 49:00 The Boombox 50:00 Deepest Lore Say hi to the team on Twitter @writervrai, @dorothynotgale, @wannabefood Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

After lo these many months, we've finally returned to the well of Anne Rice novels--sorry, "Anne Rampling." Exit to Eden is part of Rice's weird walkabout with literary and erotic novels before her return to vampires, and it wins the coveted "probably less actively dangerous as a damagingly inaccurate text about BDSM than 50 Shades of Grey" award almost solely because it's much harder to emulate. It is definitely a novel about how kinksters just need that healing monogamy, though. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, chattel slavery, sexual assault, physical abuse, pedophilia, grooming, bodily fluids (piss kink), transphobia, misogyny, war crimes, and intimate partner abuse "What Fandom Racism Looks Like: (Not-So) Sexy Slavefic": https://stitchmediamix.com/2018/07/12/what-fandom-racism-looks-like-not-so-sexy-slavefic/ 1:00 Publisher Corner 3:00 Drink Recipe 6:15 Content Warnings 8:30 WTF Quote Corner 22:00 BDSM Fantasy Island (But Make it Shitty) 29:00 Divide Lestat in Half and Get Two Narrators 34:00 Lisa is That Boss 40:00 Why Are You Even Here, Bro? 48:00 This is Not Safe, Sane, OR Consensual 55:00 New Orleans Hellcation 64:00 That’s Your Dark Secret? Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

The internet's only Smallville-cast returns with a decided downgrade in the episode offerings, although Lex having a destiny so hardcore and dastardly that even a vision of it KILLS A WOMAN almost makes up for it. This time we have Shawn in tow to see if, maybe, we can suss out what tentative connections the series occasionally decides to have to the comics. Also introducing our new, very educational segment: wisdom from Pa Kent. The fucker. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of fatphobia, eating disorders, sexual assault, ableism, and Reaganomics 2:00 Getting up to speed 6:00 Monsters of the week 14:00 Knock-Off Brand 18:00 Wisdom from Pa Kent 20:00 Heart of the Show 26:00 And That’s Terrible 34:00 The Boombox 35:00 It’s Comics! 42:00 Mailbag Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Do you like YuGiOh? We hope so, because this reunion movie was pretty much exclusively made for people who already had Big Feels about the franchise. Even as three nerds who were all part of the phenomenon in the 2000s, we're still not entirely sure we got all of it. But Alexis was kind enough to power through the To Wong Foo episode with us last Pride Month and dammit, we owed her. Was it BAD? Listen, Yu-Gi-Oh transcends mere human concepts of goodness and badness. There are only card games. And cults. People forget the cults. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of imperialism, cultural appropriation, violence toward children, suicide, and torture Visit Alexis on Twitter @TransComics or on Patreon 1:00 Your Reputable Yu-Gi-Oh Dealer 12:00 Can Anyone Explain Yu-Gi-Oh 23:00 So Shadi had a Cult 29:00 There Were Series After Duel Monsters? 36:00 The Why of Kaiba 43:00 TALES. OF. FANDOM. Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We found it: the missing link between Interview with the Vampire and Twilight. On the one hand, we have a child vampire villain and musings about the power of human nature; on the other, a Not Like Other Girls heroine who's into the new bad boy in town (but not like, TOO bad). It's a fascinating historical document. As a novel....well, the ending's unexpected. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of (beatified) suicide, terminal illness, animal death, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, eating disorders, misogyny, and class warfare 1:00 Drinks 2:00 The Missing Link 9:00 Klause's Writing Process 12:00 Our Cast 19:00 Bad News Your Hero Sucks 32:00 Co-opting Punkness 41:00 Revenge of the Backstory 52:00 Please Stop Writing Follow-Ups Decades Later Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Not to be contained by the first of April, Go Crows returns! We're making a proper go of it, but the title stuck. Apologies to all the other theoretical podcasts about Smallville that might have come before us. Our three-episode spread this time leads us on a merry chase through The Fly, an episode that's just about Good, Actually; and an evil lesbian to serve as immediate punishment for enjoying ourselves. As always, Lex is our special boy. Because somehow this show fucked up so hard that the billionaire business owner is the most sympathetic character. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, homophobia, incest, bullying, stalking, and abuse. 1:00 Last Time, on Smallville 6:00 Monsters of the Week 25:00 The Heart of the Show 30:00 And That's Terrible 37:30 The Boombox 44:00 Serial Numbers Filed Off 48:00 Final Thoughts Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This documentary was delivered right to our doorstep with a stamp that said "your brand": the tale of a late-night comedy writer and how he stumbled into the enormous and yet nearly lost world of the industrial musical, multi-million dollar shows put on for corporations and never meant to be seen by society at large. Which is a crime, because "My Bathroom" is a work of aural genius. "Design for Dreaming" MST3K short: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v91GELINmKo 1:00 Documentary Dive 7:00 The Industrial Musical 11:00 The Hunt for Records 17:00 Big Names in the Game 20:00 Bursting Your (Economic) Bubble 24:00 Living the Small Fandom Dream 32:00 Preservation Across Mediums 38:00 On Brand 43:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

In which a longtime Phantom fan and someone who doesn't even go here read a published fanfic that hits all the notes of being BAD fanfic, including: a sequel that the original didn't need, killing off characters for no reason, magically adding babies that make no sense, and turning the canon love interest into an asshole because they're in the way of your preferred ship. And then there are the GENERAL bad book problems, like bad pacing and a complete disdain for women. Anyway, then it got made into a multi-million dollar musical. Because Andrew Lloyd Webber gets away with that kind of shit. Oh, and Forsyth is a pro-Brexit shitstain going back over a decade so y'know, fuck him in general outside of the bad book. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, child sexual exploitation, gaslighting, ableism, misogyny, racism, and antisemitism Feminist Analysis of Christine: https://ninjagiry.tumblr.com/post/119216381093/christine-daae-an-actual-feminist-critique-by “Man’s Hatred Has Made Me So”: Freakification and the Shifting Gaze in The Phantom of the Opera(1925): http://bsuenglish.com/dlrOLD/past/issue3_hampshire.pdf "Pitiful Creature of Darkness": The Subhuman and the Superhuman in The Phantom of the Opera: https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=music_books 1943 Claude Rains Adaptation: https://archive.org/details/PHANTOMOFTHEOPERANtsc Fantomestein Comic: http://fantomestein.com/ 1:00 The History of Published Fanfic 11:00 No True Phantom 21:00 The Overlooked Christine 28:00 The World's Pettiest Foreword 34:00 Erik, Coney Island Clown 45:00 Saga of the Busted Dick 51:00 POV Hell 55:00 THAT Romance Novel Plot 61:00 Love Refuses to Die 71:00 Should You Read This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

"Wait, wasn't this week supposed to be Good Manners?" Weeeeeeell, we ran into a little trouble. Mostly in that Good Manners isn't about LADY werewolves. Instead, we decided to take a look at Blood & Chocolate, a movie based on a popular proto-YA novel in that it shares some character names. It might not be a GOOD movie, but it managed to surprise us with its rejection of toxic masculinity in a genre known for dickweed alpha males. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of stalking, sexual assault, animal death, racism and incest/pedophilia. Good Manners Article: https://www.themantle.com/arts-and-culture/horror-motherhood-and-brazilian-manners-boas-maneiras 0:30 About Good Manners... 4:00 The Source Book 7:30 Creepy Incest Uncle 15:00 This Nice Art Boy 20:00 Pack Drama 34:00 Checking in on Bookland 41:00 Wish Fulfillment vs. Toxic Masculinity 48:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Entry two in our exploration of the werewolf genre is a big ol' puberty metaphor and a fantastic celebration of being weird, goth, and just a little bit pretentious as a teenager. Not to mention the great acting. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, queerphobia, animal death, and mass shootings 1:00 Production Info 7:00 The Role of Women in Horror 10:00 Here's to Weird Girls 18:30 Werewolf Puberty 20:30 Columbine's Effects 24:00 The Horror of Bodies 30:00 Men as Predators and Victims 39:00 Oops, It Escalated 49:00 Lost and Buried Threads 54:00 The Longest Final Battle 58:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

It's that time of year again, where we put our spookiest foot forward and our horror history hats on. And since we're a podcast full of vampire fans, we thought we'd step out of our comfort zone and try out some of those werewolves we've heard so much about. This week we're joined by media critic Jourdain Searles to shine a light on the horror classic that was unfortunately overshadowed by An American Werewolf in London when it came out and makes stellar use of the werewolf as a metaphor for grappling with trauma. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, violence toward women and body horror Jourdain's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jourdayen Bad Romance Podcast: http://badromance.libsyn.com/ 1:00 Werewolves and Movies 11:00 The Plot 18:00 Werewolves and Sexuality 32:00 Ripped from the Headlines 38:00 The Dearth of Queer and Female Werewolves 47:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet: deadwinter.cc Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

It's our third anniversary! We decided to celebrate by talking about Hannibal Lecter's (excuse us, "Lecktor") first appearance on film. And if that gives us lots of opportunities to also talk about a certain Bryan Fuller...well, that's just a lucky coincidence, isn't it? But seriously, Manhunter is pretty great, and responsible for the aesthetic of forensic dramas as we know them today. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of misogyny, sexualized violence/stalking, homophobia, and animal death Cleolinda's Hannibal Recaps: https://cleolinda.dreamwidth.org/1006235.html We've also launched a Patreon at www.patreon.com/trashandtreasures! It'll help us pay for things like sourcing rare media and paying hosting costs -- but don't worry, whether or not you donate we're grateful to you all for listening. 0:30 The Legacy of Hannibal 12:30 The Big Crew Names 22:30 Sad Profiler Man's One Last Job 27:30 Noonan's Dollarhyde 31:00 Freddy v Freddie 36:00 WIlgram 39:30 Hannibal: Walking Intrusive Thought 47:00 Deviant Sexuality and the Family Unit 55:00 BEST DEATH 59:00 Reba 65:00 Finale Roulette 72:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet: deadwinter.cc Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Every bad book club eventually succumbs to the allure of Crichton, so we picked ourselves a doozy: a seafaring adventure about how everything would be better if all those minorities would just calm down and let a rational straight white man make all the decisions. Anyway, Dorothy insists this is the least eye-melting title she could've chosen. But we did remember to recommend some nicer, better things at the end this time. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, misogyny, victim-blaming, fat-shaming, and homophobia. 1:00 The Crichton Oeuvre 7:45 Drink Menu 9:00 The Deceptively Fun Hook 15:00 Assembling the Crew 24:00 Spooky Shit at the Bottom of the Sea 33:00 And the Real Boogeyman was Identity Politics 38:00 When Even English Majors Know Your Technobabble is Bad 45:00 One Last Narrative Middle Finger 50:00 Crichton Fuckery Round-Up Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

The post-LOTR fantasy boom was a strange time. It inspired Hollywood to pick up dozens of fantasy novels and cram them into three-act Hollywood adaptations whether or not much remained of the original work by the end. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it...really, really didn't. Wow, this movie hates women more than we remembered, huh? CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, slavery and misogyny That Good Omens Meta Dorothy Threatened: https://goth-mabel.tumblr.com/post/186064839073/funny-if-we-both-got-it-wrong-the-thematic 1:00 Gaiman History 9:00 The Mid-00s Fantasy Boom 18:00 Nice Guy Tristan 23:00 Wacky Murder Shenanigans 27:00 All Bicker, No Charm 37:00 So....Shakespeare 47:00 Third Act Misunderstanding 53:00 Brand New Ending 60:00 AND ONE MORE THING 67:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Look, sometimes a movie survives for 35 years because it's very pretty and we all love Tim Curry, and it's okay to admit that. This film has GLITTER and EIGHT THOUSAND CUTS and TANGERINE DREAM and oooooh boy that script, huh? Content Warning for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, and body horror Shannon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mx_dapper The ARGonauts Podcast: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/argonauts-podcast 1:00 Background and Cuts 12:00 BIG D IS HERE 16:00 This is a Fairy Tale, Not a Legend 23:00 Fae Stuff 27:30 Ending Rundown 32:30 The Ridley Cuts Thing 38:00 Fanfic Check 43:00 Who Could This Still Be For 50:00 Final Thoughts Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

80s and early 90s vampire fiction responded to the wealth porn aestheticism of Anne Rice by getting as punk and filthy as possible, with varying results (look we're not even going to humor the claim that this is anything but very obviously a response to the Vampire Chroincles). In this case....well. Is it possible to be more misogynistic than an Anne Rice book? Turns out the answer is yes, when your book is written by a then-closeted trans man still Working Through Some Shit. There is, as the academics say, a lot to unpack here. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, forced pregnancy, anti-choice rhetoric, uterine horror, rape apologism, misogyny, pedophilia, incest, drug use, and body horror. This one is A LOT, so take care 1:00 That Closeted Trans Dude Feel 8:30 Drinks 12:30 Prologue 21:00 Small Realisms 24:00 Fuck You, Steve 28:00 "Secret Bone Dance" 39:00 OC DONOT STEAL 41:00 Death By Baby 49:00 The Failure of Nothing 54:00 College Course Storytime 57:00 Abjection of Sexuality 69:00 Switched at Birth Fantasy 71:00 This, That, and the Other 75:00 The Danger of a Moral Center Character 79:00 Death to the Old Vampire 81:00 Should You Read This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

It's been a rough theme, so we decided to close out on something fluffy: sure, this is the epitome of "we want the gays to have rights but we don't want them to be TOO gay about it, except maybe in a funny way," but it's also sweet and sometimes wicked sharp satire. Plus, it's a movie about gay men written by a gay man, making it the first movie this year where the author's identity matches up to the identity story they're trying to tell. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of homophobia and fatphobia Move it Football Head (A Hey Arnold Retrospective): https://moveitfootballhead.wordpress.com/ Ross’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/terriblepunname The Mary Kay Letourneau Scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau 2:00 Production 6:00 The Tom Hanks Incident 16:00 Don't Tell the Straights 22:00 Magnum Love(ish) Interest 24:00 Oh, Joan 29:00 Extremely Legal Teacher Boning 35:00 THINK of the CHILDREN 41:00 "Dance Party" is Code For "We Have No Ending" 44:00 Fuzzy but Toothless 50:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

The biggest movie to deal with transness in the 90s---well....it thinks it's talking about drag, except for the part where all of its leads are full-timers. The charming Alexis Sara rejoins us to talk about drag politics, the movie's "naturalistic" racism, and that damned "all homophobes are just in the closet" trope. Remember, trans people are people too: specifically, they are sexless fairy godmothers who will descend to solve cis peoples' problems. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of transphobia, racism, spousal abuse, homophobia, police brutality, and sexual harassment Visit Alexis on Twitter @TransComics or on Patreon 1:00 Production History 5:00 Drag Politics 11:00 "Little Latin Boy in a Dress" 20:00 The TRANS NARRATIVE THOUGH 26:00 "Hilarious" Police Brutality 32:00 Small Town Subplots 37:30 What Tone Are You Even Going For 43:00 Sexless Fairy Godmothers 46:00 Vida is a Lesbian 52:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This one is so bad Dorothy and Vrai couldn't ask anyone else to be involved. It would've been cruel. Yes, marvel at the go-to example of the lesbian phase movie, complete with the myth of "lesbian bed death." It's a real shame this isn't the podcast with the booze. For bonus points, this is quite the snapshot of a pre-9/11 America (oh yes, you bet this is a "New York is the center of the universe' movie). CONTENT WARNING for discussion of homophobia and gold star bullshit. 1:00 Background Info 6:00 Critical Reception 11:00 90s New Yorker Problems 17:00 The Newspaper Ad 22:00 Politics of the Closet 31:00 "Lesbian Bed Death" 39:00 Successfully Got That Dick 45:00 A Terminal Lack of Gay in the Queer RomCom 52:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

If you grew up in the 90s, chances are good you crossed paths with Lurlene McDaniel, the queen of teen lit tragedy porn. While starting from a genuinely good place, wanting to help sick kids feel seen after her young son was diagnosed with diabetes, her career mostly involved biting off waaaaaaaay more than she could chew and fitting just about every debilitating physical illness under the sun into a very pat and very Christian formula. And along the way her books grew a predominant audience of able-bodied middle school goths with a voyeuristic interest in death (trust us, we know). CONTENT WARNING for discussion of misogyny, racism, homophobia, chronic illness, and the death of children 1:00 Personal History 3:00 Drinks 5:00 YA History 11:00 Responsibility Hats 19:00 Cancer Camp 24:00 The Evil Fiancee 28:00 Marley 37:00 Voyeurism 43:00 BOYS AND BABIES 53:00 Saint Sandy 59:00 That Gay Subtext Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Sometimes the sequel IS better. We're joined by film critic Ross Dickerhoof to talk Magic Mike XXL, the only film in the Mikeverse that Vrai has seen. Sure, it might not have the Deep Social Commentary of the original, but it also doesn't seem like it hates its audience nearly as much, and we're here for that. Let's fight toxic masculinity with Backstreet Boys. Move it Football Head (A Hey Arnold Retrospective): https://moveitfootballhead.wordpress.com/ Ross' Twitter: twitter.com/TerriblePunName 1:00 We Picked the Better Movie 9:00 Symbolic Pool Party 14:00 In Conclusion, Fuck Mike 17:00 The Best House 20:00 Fix Fic 25:00 Actually Likes Women 28:00 Screens of Masculinity 33:00 The Big Show 38:00 Wine Mom Hell 43:00 Well, That Was Abrupt 46:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We promised, and we finally delivered: we read the Robot Dildo Arms book, aka a landmark work of queer science fiction aka some fuckery that epitomizes the "fuck you, got mine" of a certain subset of white gay men. Join us as a goofy, harmless fantasy about boning handsome hard-bodied aliens takes a sharp left turn into eugenics and Why Feminism Is Bad. It is. A trip. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, animal death, racism, and eugenics 00:30 Author History 7:00 Sexy Desert Masseuse 11:00 Roving Gangs of Teenage Girls 17:00 Young King Jerk-Off 24:00 The Evil Hospital of Evil Women 28:00 AND NOW, EUGENICS 37:30 Knock-off Nurse Ratched 44:00 RIP Twists That Could've Been 47:30 The Great Jizz Heist 53:00 Did We Mention the Cult 58:00 Rover: Cuddly Asexual Robot Bodyguard 64:00 We Had a Climax but We Left it Offscreen 70:00 Final Thoughts Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

Our very first guest brought only the best -- one of the most adorable gay romcoms on offer by seriously underappreciated filmmaker Angela Robinson. It's cheesy, it's heartwarming, and it's got a very special place in Dorothy's memories. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of homophobia and racism Visit Alexis on Twitter @TransComics or on Patreon https://t.co/ouY7tEaDNj 1:00 Deja Vu 4:00 History and Availability 9:30 The Premise 12:30 Quality Cheese Aesthetic 16:00 Poor Max 19:30 Ugh. Janet. 21:00 Million Dollar Idea 24:00 This Is Just High School 28:00 The Best Joke 31:00 Solid Budgeting 37:00 That Social Commentary 41:00 TV Gal Pals 48:00 Fancy Homophobia 52:30 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!