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Two Off The Tee
by Jeff Shin
Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.
Episodes
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Would You Play One Round of Golf With Two Years of Your Life on It?
Tom Kim shot 64, won gold, and got out of Korea's military service, which runs 18 to 21 months. His teammate S.H. Kim missed by two shots and still has to go. James Shin says he'd have left the Presidents Cup right away too, and he'd be happy for Tom even if he were S.H. Jeff Shin thinks that one...
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Scottie Scheffler Conceded a 32-Footer After a Fan Yelled. Would You?
Scottie Scheffler conceded a 32-foot putt at the Presidents Cup after a fan yelled in Nico Echavarria's swing. James Shin calls it the right move and says he'd do the same, because he wants to win fair and square. Jeff Shin isn't buying the halo. Scottie still had a tap-in for par, and Jeff says…
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Caddie Quit on Hole 9 Over an Umbrella: Would You Walk?
Bryson posted "I'm coming home." James Shin thought it meant a return to the PGA Tour. Jeff Shin says it was a backyard hole-in-one challenge over his house with a crew of YouTubers. James fell for it, and he admits it. Then the caddie who dropped the bag on hole nine. Jeff tells the whole story…
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Presidents Cup at *MEDINAH*: Jeff Shin vs James Shin
Presidents Cup week is in Chicago. Jeff Shin wants Team USA at Medinah. James Shin takes the International side -- he just says Team Korea. The one clip they both actually know is Tom Kim putting his putter on the ground. Then two claimed 3-handicaps from Oklahoma booked flights after a…
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LIV Filed *CHAPTER 11*: Soft Money Era Over?
LIV Golf filed for Chapter 11. Jeff walks the burn rate: about $5 billion to start, with something like $15 million left. Jon Rahm is still owed about $7.5 million. Bryson about $5.8. DJ about $5.5. Rick Shiels shows up on the list too. James says nobody watches LIV and it was bound to fail. Then...
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Legacy or the Bag: Would You Chase Tiger or Take $100M?
Scottie Scheffler came from three back at East Lake, won his second FedEx Cup, and the money talk started before the trophy cooled. He passed Tiger Woods for most PGA Tour career earnings. James says comparing that number to Tiger's era is not fair : different prize pools, different decades. Jeff...
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Good Good vs Callaway: Do Not Touch My New Driver
Good Good made a Callaway driver ad where Garrett shoulder-tackles his girlfriend and yells don't touch my driver. James had to go hunt for it after they took it down. He called it mean. A little sexist. He wouldn't bump Ella for a driver. Jeff watched the extra 15 seconds — some other guy…
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Don't Hit It There: Tree Roots Don't Get a Free Drop
LeBron James just started a golf YouTube channel, and he is about a 22 handicap. That is the cold open, and it is why this episode exists. James has not watched a full episode yet. He already knows LeBron is out there with Bob Does Sports, nearly holed one on camera, and is posting the kind of...
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If You Take Mulligans, You Can't Break 100
James read out every player he thought was getting eliminated from Sunday's playoff, and when he got to his own brother's name he didn't even pause. Jeff had to sit there and take it, on his own show, four days before he has to go play the tournament. It took about four seconds for the word...
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Every Golf Rule People Want Changed Is Just Asking for Mercy
Jeff played with a guy who put two, sometimes three balls in play off every tee and then got irritated with the group about it. His whole defense was that he's better than this. Jeff's answer, which he ends up repeating three separate times over the next twenty minutes: if you have to ask whether...
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A $700 Round at Erin Hills and 72 Holes in Three Days
Jeff had already taken a penalty drop. He hacked it out, chipped on, and left himself twelve inches. He walked up expecting somebody to wave it off the way he'd been waving putts off all morning, and instead one guy said it wasn't good and another said he was too far away to tell. So Jeff putted…
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Every Golfer Knows Exactly What They're Doing Out There
James thinks Bryson stepped down that rough on purpose and that every golfer watching knows exactly what happened. Jeff thinks one camera angle isn't the whole story, and that the rule is so subjective you can't hang a guy on it. They go at it for six minutes — Patrick Reed's bunker, the fescue…
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Anthony Kim Got Robbed + Simmies Golf Is Real
Jeff dropped a comment telling Anthony Kim he should've won Comeback Player of the Year at the ESPYs — and Kim actually saw it. That sets off the argument that opens the episode: is a 12-years-gone, fought-through-addiction return a bigger comeback than an NFL star bouncing back from an Achilles...
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A Villain Is Born — Golf Haters, League Cheaters & YouTube Golf vs the PGA | EP35
Jeff spent last week telling amateurs they don't need a rangefinder. This week the internet came for him — and a villain was born. Now he's ready to fight every hater in his comments, and James is gleefully pouring gasoline on it. From there we get into the stuff every weekend golfer actually...
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Rangefinders Are a Scam for Amateur Golfers
Jeff has a hill he's willing to die on: if you're a 20-plus handicap, you do NOT need a rangefinder — the cart GPS is free, front-middle-back is all you can actually use, and lasering every shot is why your group plays so slow. James pushes back hard, and the "do amateurs need a rangefinder or is…
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My Brother Says He's Got Me Cheating On Camera
Golf turned into a courtroom this week. After Bob Does Sports' Joey Coldcut got accused of lifting an embedded ball (and threw a fit on camera), we spent the whole episode building rules to stop "sus" activity in our own league: declare your ball, mark your opponent's ball ("the Cowboy Rule")…
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12 Drops, 9 Lost Balls — Our Worst Round Ever
We teamed up for Brother vs Brother, and it fell apart: James shot 116 — twelve drops, nine lost balls on the back nine, zero pars — two days after we both shot our best rounds of the year (83 and 84 walking the tips). Now we're on the longest losing streak of our careers, and we spent hole 10...
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I Call My Brother 1 Hour Before — He Can't Say No
Brother vs Brother is still unsettled — Jeff says the Bridges of Poplar round "doesn't count" because James switched the venue with no notice, and we never got a verdict. So you decide: counts = Jeff's 0-2, doesn't = 0-1. New twist for Game 3 — Jeff calls James with one hour's notice, names the...
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My Brother Says Our Round "Doesn't Count"
Brother vs Brother Round 2 took place at Bridges of Poplar; Jeff lost again — and now he says it "doesn't count" because James switched the venue with two hours' notice. James says Jeff asked if it counts, agreed, recorded the whole thing, then backpedaled after getting spanked. So we're letting...
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He Won Our First Major On The Senior Tees
Our first-ever Path to Par major became the "Squawk at the T-Hawk." Tom won the Members Open at Thunderhawk by playing the senior tees as a single-digit handicap. Legal, but is it a championship or an asterisk? The brothers fight over tiered tee boxes versus a single standard tee for everyone.…
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Simmies Lease Is Drafted, Keys Hand Over June 1
Brother vs Brother Round 1 is happening on camera Sunday at Highlands of Elgin — and Jeff picked the course on purpose because James plays well there. The whole plan is to beat him on his home turf and break him for Round 2. GoPros mounted, stroke play, same tee box. Before the reveal, the…
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We Finally Named the Golf Sim Business: SIMMIES
The brothers finally drop the name of the indoor golf sim business — SIMMIES — and the landlord agreed to their terms on Location 1 in Carol Stream. Six bays. 24/7. Lease being drafted. Before the reveal, James locks Jeff into Brother vs Brother Round 1 next Wednesday at Mount Prospect with a…
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$80 To Walk?! Chicago Golf Prices Got Insane
$80 to WALK a course in Chicago? Jeff and James open EP26 with a real rant on amateur golf pricing — Mt Prospect, Chevy Chase, Seven Bridges — and ask, "When did this get this expensive?" Inside the episode: Jeff shot 95 at Seven Bridges and walks through how a guy named Tom went minus-five on…
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We Locked In a 7-Game Brother vs Brother Series
Jeff finally admits on camera that he's been letting James win for years — then the brothers lock in a 7-game Brother vs Brother series, first to 4 wins, gross stroke play, course picks week-of. Before that, James is tied for first in the Path to Par league for the second event in a row. The...
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We're Opening a 24/7 Golf Simulator Business
Jeff and James finally reveal the golf project they have been working on: an indoor golf simulator business with multiple bays, 24/7 access, and extensive AI support behind the scenes. The episode starts with James having to admit Jeff beat him straight up, then moves into LIV Golf's future,...
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Rory Won Back-to-Back Masters and We Played a 6-Hour Round | Two Off the Tee EP22
Jeff played two rounds this weekend and both were a disaster. Not his game (okay, also his game) but the people around him. Six guys showed up to one tee time at White Pines. Speakers blasting. Groups skipping holes on a packed Saturday. A five and a half hour round. COVID golfers are out of...
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Is Golf Etiquette Dead? We Settled It.
Is golf etiquette actually dead? Jeff and James break down the wildest stories from public courses this season — from solos blasting music on the tee box to balls flying at you before you're off the green. Plus: Tiger Woods gets arrested, Phil Mickelson pulls out, and the Masters is missing both...
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$1.50 SANDWICH
Jeff was at Augusta National for the Par 3 Contest last April. First time telling the full story on the show — the 3:30am departure, nearly falling asleep watching the Par 3 Contest, the food, the merch, and what it was like to walk that course in person. Then: YouTube golf announced a league and...
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• The Golf Ball You’re Playing Is Probably Wrong (Here’s Why
The Masters is three weeks away and Jeff and James are making their picks — including a $25 YOLO on Tiger Woods at +25,000 odds. Bryson DeChambeau just won back-to-back LIV events and James wants a LIV player to win Augusta just to make a point. Then the hosts get into the golf ball debate that...
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These Guys Almost Ruined Golf for Us
We hit the Chicago Golf Expo and had thoughts. Some good, some bad, and one of us walked away with a free round of golf at Sol Tan Run and Buffalo Trace in Indiana. First raffle win of his life. We break down Akshay Bhatia's comeback win at the Arnold Palmer down five shots on Sunday, Jon Rahm's...
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Anthony Kim Won Again and LIV Is Using Him to Save the League
Shane Lowry had a 3-shot lead with 3 holes left at PGA National and gave the tournament away with back-to-back water balls — and Jeff had money on him. Jeff and James break down the mental game collapse, what it feels like to protect a lead and fail, and how every amateur has a version of this...
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Anthony Kim: The Comeback That Saved His Legacy
A stolen putter, a 16-year comeback, and 8 guys playing golf in February in Chicago. Collin Morikawa won Pebble Beach with a putter he borrowed from a friend. Anthony Kim came back after 16 years and beat Jon Rahm and Bryson DeChambeau at LIV Adelaide. Then we played our first round of 2026, and...
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Should Fans Be Banned for Life? Match Play vs. Stroke Play Debate
EP 14 of Two Off the Tee. James takes the hosting chair as the brothers break down the WM Phoenix Open chaos. First up: streamer Jack Doherty gets a lifetime PGA Tour ban after paying a fan $100 to scream during Mackenzie Hughes' backswing. Is the ban too harsh or exactly right? Then the real…
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Only 12 Make the Playoffs: Handicap Wars & a Family Golf Rivalry
Episode 13 is the turning point. We stop pretending this is just a casual golf league and start treating it like a real club. Handicap reductions, sandbagging, attendance issues — and the biggest change of all: only the Top 12 make the playoffs. Sung Kim joins as the unelected chairman and makes...
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Are Golf Handicaps Actually Fair? | Match Play, League Drama & LIV vs PGA
In this episode, James takes the host chair and puts Jeff on the spot. We break down how we actually got into golf, why perfection drives us insane, and how handicaps might be breaking amateur competition. We dive deep into: Why high handicaps keep winning leagues Whether match play is better…
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Handicaps Are Killing Competitive Golf (And We Finally Say It Out Loud)
This episode spirals fast. We sit down with Kawboy and dive straight into golf’s most toxic debate: handicaps vs straight-up play. What starts as league talk turns into a full-blown argument about gimmies, pace of play, tee boxes, rules, vanity handicaps, and whether golfers are actually getting...
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Confidence or Desperation? The Kim’s Call-Out + Golf’s Biggest Debate
Two Off The Tee gets heated. A public call-out turns into a real challenge, and we break down whether it’s confidence or desperation. From handicap debates to PGA vs LIV favoritism, this episode covers ego, data, and why everyone suddenly wants a piece.
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You Don’t Go Against the Family | Handicap Beef, League Drama & Golf Ego
Episode 9 gets heated. What starts as brother vs brother turns into full-blown golf league drama—handicaps, sandbagging, family loyalty, and ego all collide when we bring on our first-ever guest, MGGA Champion Tom Kim. We debate: Whether handicap golf is broken Why low handicaps are always the...
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7 Rounds. 3 Months. Settling It on the Course.
Ten years in, things get personal. This episode starts with brother vs. brother as Jeff and James set up a 7-round series to finally settle it on the course — straight up, no excuses, and three months to train. From there, we zoom out to the bigger picture. We break down where MGGA is headed in...
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2025 Golf Season Review + 2026 Goals and the Brooks Koepka Debate
In Episode 7 of Two Off the Tee, we close out the 2025 golf season and reset for 2026. We talk through what actually helped our games this year, what didn’t, and how practice, playing, and competition really impact amateur golfers. Then we lay out our personal goals for 2026 — handicap targets,...
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Episode 6 – Golf Fashion, Tee Box Ego & Handicap Drama
In this episode of Two Off the Tee, we get into the debates every golfer has strong opinions about — whether they admit it or not. We start with golf fashion and the reaction to Malbon signing Fred Couples. Are hoodies, joggers, and streetwear officially taking over the course, or is golf…
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Golf Etiquette, LIV Rumors & the Lost Ball Debate | Two Off the Tee Ep. 5
In Episode 5 of Two Off the Tee, things get heated. We start with our dream golf foursomes — tour pros, YouTubers, celebrities — and why personality matters more than talent when picking who you’d actually want to play 18 with. Then we dive into the latest LIV Golf chatter: Brooks Koepka rumors,...
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The Great Handicap Debate, Pace of Play, and Our Biggest Golf Pet Peeves
In Episode 4, we dive into the great handicap debate — is it fair to talk trash when you’re getting 10–20 strokes? We break down what’s staying and going in our bags for 2025, why pace of play is so brutal on public courses, and the on-course pet peeves that tilt us the most (yes, including...
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Holiday Golf Gift Guide, Bolingbrook Recap, and the Capital One Skins Match
In this episode of Two Off The Tee, Jeff and James break down the best golf gifts for the 2025 season — from training aids and putting mats to launch monitors, bags, sunglasses, apparel, and the gear that actually helps you improve. They also recap their round at Bolingbrook, including the...
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Anthony Kim Returns, Golf Behavior, and the Internet Invitational
Anthony Kim is officially back, and we break down what his return means for golf. We also dive into the Internet Invitational drama, golf course behavior, music on the course, slow play, and why indoor simulators are getting out of control. On the back half, we get into the year our bets went too...
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Our First Time Ever Teaming Up | Two Off the Tee EP. 1
The first time we’ve ever teamed up on the golf course, and it's the official start of Two Off the Tee. We’re breaking down how it all started, why we’ve always been at odds, and what we’re building with this channel.In this episode, we talk:• Our first time being on the same team• The Internet...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.
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