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Unapologetic: The Third Narrative
by With Amira and Ibrahim
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
Episodes
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Season 2 Finale: Full Circle
Talk was never the finish line. Season 2 didn't ask you to just listen — it asked you to act. From engineers in Ramallah building tech for the overlooked, to a lawyer taking on a legal system stacked against her clients as well as herself, to getting tents and clean water into Gaza one delivery…
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Necessity Fuels Innovation
In this episode of UTTN: The Podcast, we speak with Nisreen, founder and CEO of Makers Tech for Good — a Palestinian initiative reimagining what innovation can look like when it is driven by community, necessity, and care. Based in Ramallah, Makers brings together engineers, therapists…
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ALBI, there for you
In this episode, we sit with Libby Lenkinski, Founder and President of Albi, a fund, institute, and lab built on one belief: that art is not an accessory to change, it is the spark. After years in movement spaces, Libby turned toward culture as the ground where possibility is first imagined. What...
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Clean Shelter
What began as a conversation did not stay there. It turned into persistence. Into urgency. Into late-night phone calls and constant coordination. Into people refusing to sit still. At the center of it was a question: What do the people of Gaza need right now, and how do we get it to them? Clean...
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Disruptive Education
Stories are how we learn who we are, who belongs, and who we’re taught to fear. Some stories are inherited so early they feel like truth. Others begin to fracture only when lived reality no longer matches what we were told. In this episode we're joined by Becca Strober, an educator and organizer...
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Objection Overruled
Laws are meant to protect people, maintain order, and define what’s fair. But what happens when the law is applied only to some, while denying rights to others? For Palestinian citizens of Israel, this is a daily reality. Laws meant to safeguard freedom of speech, movement, and expression are…
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Palestinian Poetic Justice
For more than 26 years, Tamer Nafar has bent language into a weapon, a mirror, and the airplane’s black box. In his words: "The world is a crashing plane. I'm not Captain Sully; I cannot save the day. I'm that black box. I'm nothing but that black box. I document, eject seat, then cash out." From...
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Let's Reflect
In this episode, we strip things back and sit down for an honest one-on-one. Amira and Ibrahim reflect on Season 2 so far—what it’s stirred up, what they’ve learned, and how the conversations are evolving. They unpack newly introduced terminology, respond to audience feedback, and unpack their...
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From Grassroots to Purple Skies
In Episode 8, we sit down with Sally Abed — socialist organizer, new mother, and the first Palestinian woman to lead a joint Jewish-Arab slate and be elected to Haifa’s municipal council with Haifa Majority. As a leader in the purple grassroots movement, Standing Together, she works to turn joint...
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Changing Minds, One Post At a Time
Eran Nissan calls himself “a juggler,” and for good reason. He moves between multiple initiatives focused on peace, reconciliation, and co-resistance between Israelis and Palestinians, all while leading Mehazkim as its CEO. Mehazkim — whose name in Hebrew means “to strengthen” or “to empower” —…
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Existence is Resistance
In this powerful episode, we sit down with Nimala Kharoufeh— an inspirational teacher, women's circle trainer, group facilitator, and the first Samara Yoga teacher in the Middle East. She holds over 14 accredited certificates in self-development and well-being. With 15 years of experience in…
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Allow us to Demonstrate: Solidarity
In this episode, Danielle Cantor — co-mother and community organizer with Culture of Solidarity, a grassroots mutual aid collective — opens up on what it means to live and act from a place of radical care in unbearable times. Culture of Solidarity builds networks of care, resistance, and justice...
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Harmony in the Midst of Chaos
From a young age, Mahdi refused to let judgment or limitation define him. Where others saw barriers, he instinctively looked for ways forward, creating solutions in the spaces that needed them most. That same determination drives his work today as Co-founder of Harmony Network, a platform uniting...
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Palestine's Big Sis
From the hills of Dura to the heart of Gaza, Yara moves with conviction, turning care into action. Shaped by loss and love, she leads by example — creating spaces where children can learn, play, and hold onto hope amid uncertainty. As the Deputy Executive Director of The Gaza Children’s Village…
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From Louisiana to Jerusalem
In Episode 2, we sit down with Lana Ikelan—Co-Educational Director at Kids4Peace, alum of Tomorrow’s Women, and a speaker with Solutions Not Sides. Lana shares her experiences as an East Jerusalemite and reflects on her complex Palestinian identity, navigating a city full of unseen boundaries and...
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Season 2: Action!
After Season 1 wrapped last November, we didn’t stop. We released a bonus episode in February, hosted four international events, led countless workshops and speaking engagements, recorded three episodes abroad, and sat down with policymakers around the world—all alongside our on-the-ground...
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International Series - MENA Initiative
In the final episode of our international mini-series, we spotlight the student perspective through a powerful conversation with Reine and Leo—outgoing and incoming board members of the MENA Initiative at the Graduate Institute in Geneva. They share their experiences, the successes of organizing...
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International Series - Bekend maakt Bemind
Though this is the second episode of our international series, Amsterdam was actually the very first stop on this trip. At the Joods Museum, we sat down with city council members Sheher Khan (DENK) and Itay Garmy (Volt) — two leaders whose politics and identities often place them on opposite…
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International Series - B8 of Hope
We know it's been a while, and we've missed you! So much has happened since our last release, but we have great news to share soon. In the meantime, we’re thrilled to return with the first of three new episodes in our international series! In this episode, Amira sits down with our lovely guest,...
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Bonus Episode (Ceasefire)
After a long hiatus, co-hosts Ibrahim and Amira return with a heartfelt bonus episode, sharing their mixed emotions about the recent hostage release and ceasefire agreement. They unpack the bittersweet reality of this moment and share exciting news about their upcoming event in London on February...
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Season 1 Finale!
In our season finale, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on a year marked by loss, resilience, and the ongoing struggle in Palestine and Israel. Joined by our Unapologetic producer Evelyn, they take a moment to look back on the stories we've shared, the complexities we've navigated, and the road ahead.…
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Keeping the Legacy Alive
As the one-year mark since October 7th approaches, we sat down with Yonatan Zeigen—father, social worker, and mediator. Yonatan is the son of the late Vivian Silver, a renowned Israeli peace advocate who dedicated her life to bridging the divide between Israelis and Palestinians. Tragically…
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The Spiritual Journey of a Palestinian Woman
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Miriam Abd El Hay, a remarkable Palestinian woman from Tira. She shares her unique journey of navigating life, identity, and spirituality. Miriam opens up about her multicultural upbringing, the challenges she faced in that complex cultural landscape, and how...
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It Starts in the Classroom
In this compelling episode, Ibrahim sits down with Sabrin Masarweh, a Palestinian educator whose commitment to teaching and fostering dialogue in Jewish schools encountered an unexpected and painful challenge. Masarweh's journey took a dramatic turn when she was suspended from a prominent Jewish...
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You Asked, Amira Answered
In this episode, we celebrate Amira's birthday by asking her questions from our audience. Some were personal, while others were more lighthearted to give you a break from our usual conversations. Here's a question for our audience - How has this podcast affected your life? Let us know in the...
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Ibrahim in the Hot Seat!
In this episode, we celebrate Ibrahim's birthday by asking him questions from our audience. Some were very challenging, and others made him blush. Listen till the end to see which ones did what and let us know your thoughts in the comments! Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative Subscribe to…
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Activist Burnout
So much time has passed by and we’re still in the same horrible, indescribable situation. In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim talk about the hopelessness that even the Peace-building community can fall victim to. Even in these very dark times, and even when it seems impossible, we must continue to...
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Solution Series - Part 1
In this very special episode, we bring the first of three guests we will have on the show, who will present their solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. This time, we are honored to host Yisrael Piekrash - Chief Executive Officer - Anahnu Movement - a movement committed to solving the...
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Let's Talk Protests
In this long-awaited episode, Amira and Ibrahim tackle the complex and multifaceted topic of protests! They explore demonstrations and university encampments across the United States and Europe, offering insights shaped by the media they’ve encountered. They also reflect on the ongoing protests…
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Prepared for his Parent's Murder?!
In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim are joined by their dear friend Maoz Inon, an award-winning Israeli social entrepreneur and peace activist. Maoz’s life took a profound turn when his parents became some of the first identified victims of the October 7th massacre. Through his heartbreaking...
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Biases and a Fight for a Better Future
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim reflect on the sensitive and challenging period that both Palestinians and Israelis have been enduring. They share updates on their recent activities and delve into discussions on topics like objectivity, biases, Nakba, Independence Day, and more. The…
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Special Episode - Nakba Stories
In this special video episode, we bring you powerful personal stories from the generation that lived through the Nakba—a tragedy whose impact remains ongoing and unacknowledged. The atrocities faced by Palestinians today are a stark reminder that the Nakba did not end in 1948; its pain and...
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A Palestinian-Ethiopian Minorities Discussion
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and...
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An Ethiopian Jewish story
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and...
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Ramadan Kareem!
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim explore the significance of the holy month of Ramadan, sharing personal experiences with their families and reflecting on the deeper meaning of this time. They discuss the traditions and practices that bring families together during Ramadan, but also…
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DEAL NOW!
In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by Alana Zeitchik, an American-Israeli advocate for the hostages taken by Hamas on October 7th. Six of Alana's cousins, including three young children, were kidnapped from Kibbutz Nir Oz to Gaza. While five have returned, Alana's cousin's…
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A Gazan American Speaks | Part 2
This episode is part two of the hosts' conversation with analyst and activist Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib. In this episode, Ahmed tells the ins and outs of his experience attending UNRWA schools and gives his own analysis of Hamas and the current war. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative…
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A Gazan American Speaks | Part 1
On this episode of Unapologetic, Amira and Ibrahim host guest Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Gazan American analyst who has recently gained popularity for his anti-Hamas sentiments in addition to his honest criticism of Israel. Join our hosts and their guest as they delve into the upbringing and brutal...
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Unapologetically From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea
This episode was originally recorded and published by the podcast, From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea. In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira join Itay and Hannah on their podcast and discuss together terms like boycott, resistance, and whether or not "complete justice" among others.…
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The Druze community: Dynamics, Challenges, and Grievances
This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to...
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Meet the Druze Community
This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to...
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Q&A Pt. 2 with Special Guest from the Audience
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by a special guest, Adam Chitayat, an American-Jewish film director. Adam takes the role of audience representative, delivering thought-provoking questions submitted by our listeners. Tune in for a dynamic conversation that bridges diverse views and...
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Hamze Awawde, an Unapologetic Voice from the West Bank
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira host their first guest, Palestinian peace activist Hamze Awawdeh. Hamze shares his story and upbringing in the West Bank, reality and challenges, and his decision to devote his life and career towards peace advocacy. Follow us on Instagram: @thirdnarrative...
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Your Questions Answered
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on their activism and delve into questions from listeners about the complex realities they navigate. The hosts share their personal opinions, experiences, and perspectives, offering a glimpse into their lived realities. They also emphasize the importance...
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Let's Talk Terminologies
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira explore the power of language and the complexities of terminologies in shaping conversations. They delve into the dangers of relying on labels and divisive language, emphasizing that the goal of dialogue should not be to "win" a debate but to foster…
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The "Day after" - What Happens Next?
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira discuss the challenges facing the peacebuilding community, focusing on what they think has failed and the necessary changes that must occur for a genuine peace process to flourish. Both hosts bring their own analysis and perspectives on the steps they believe…
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Two-State Delusion
This episode sheds light on the series of events that have led to the current status quo. The hosts examine the failed peace process attempts, the mistakes made by both sides, and the missed opportunities that prevented the realization of a Two-State Solution. The hosts make it clear that they do...
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Identities Unraveled
In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira open up about their personal journeys, navigating the complexities of their multifaceted identities. They share insights into the unique experiences of their respective communities—'48 Palestinians and '67 Palestinians—offering a window into the realities that...
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Pilot - A New Narrative is Born
In this inaugural episode, activists Amira and Ibrahim introduce Unapologetic: The Third Narrative, a Palestinian-led initiative aimed at rejecting hate and fostering understanding between Palestinians and Israelis. With a focus on creating space for people to be unapologetically themselves, this...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is...
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