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Unpacking Pain

Unpacking Pain is a podcast about chronic pain - what causes it, how it affects our lives, and what we can do about it. Hosted by a pain scientist and a pain sufferer, it blends evidence-based science with lived experience to offer support, education, and empowerment.If you’ve ever felt unseen in your pain journey, know that you are not alone. Join us on Unpacking Pain as we peel back the layers of the chronic pain experience - where science meets story, and where knowledge opens doors to healing.Each week, Dr. Megan Steele, PT, DPT, PhD(c), and Holly Osborne, a chronic pain sufferer, sit down to explore the “three-legged stool” of chronic pain: the biological, psychological, and social. Together they demystify the science, share personal stories, and engage in candid conversations about the mind-body connection, treatment approaches, and the realities of living with and managing pain.What makes Unpacking Pain different is its unique yin-yang approach: Megan brings deep expertise in

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  1. 16

    Unpacking: Pain among Sexual Minority Youth and Young Adults

    Why do sexual minority youth and young adults report significantly higher rates of chronic pain - even when there may be nothing “biologically different” about sexual orientation itself?Pain researcher and nurse Dr. Ian A. Lane (“The Gay Pain Guy”) helps make sense of what the data is starting to show: elevated rates of headaches, musculoskeletal pain, and pelvic pain across LGBTQ+ communities, alongside real barriers to care like stigma, misgendering, and not feeling safe in medical settings. This conversation connects the dots between pain science and lived experience - how minority stress, identity concealment, and lack of social support can shape the nervous system, influence threat detection, and change the course of pain over time.You’ll also hear practical takeaways for patients and clinicians, including what helps people feel safer in healthcare environments (from inclusive intake forms to simple visual signals), why “0–10 pain scores” can miss the point for chronic conditions, and how supportive human connection can reduce suffering.If you’ve ever wondered why some communities carry a heavier pain burden, what respectful care can look like, or how to move from “just surviving” toward a bigger life with pain, this conversation offers a grounded place to start.Guest: Dr. Ian A. Lane, Clinical pain scientist and board-certified pain management nurse consultantIan A. Lane, PhD, RN, PMGT-BC, is a nursing epidemiologist, measurement scientist, and board-certified pain management nurse consultant. His work focuses on chronic pain, behavioral health, and LGBTQ health disparities.Dr. Lane is especially interested in how persistent pain intersects with identity and healthcare experiences among LGBTQ people. He maintains an independent clinical practice focused on supporting individuals living with chronic pain and behavioral health challenges.Ian A. Lane (The Gay Pain Guy), Instagram“Clinical Appraisal” podcast hosted by Ian A. Lane“Pain, Power & Pride” by Ian A. LaneLinks to interesting things from this episode:“Chronic pain in transgender and gender diverse youth: A mixed-methods investigation.”Thundermist Health CenterFenway Health Clinic

  2. 15

    Unpacking: Chinese Medicine and the Role of Qi in Healing

    What if pain relief isn’t only about fixing tissue, but also about restoring flow, energy, attention, and trust in your body?Acupuncture, Qigong, and physical therapy experts explore how Chinese medicine approaches chronic pain. Learn how qi is described in Chinese medicine, why “stuck” energy is often framed as a source of pain, and how practices like acupuncture and qigong aim to support healing by improving circulation, regulation, and resilience.The conversation also covers practical takeaways: how qigong can be adapted for different abilities, why consistency matters more than a quick fix, and how community and the patient–practitioner relationship can influence outcomes.Whether you’re new to Chinese medicine or looking for complementary tools alongside Western care, this interview offers a clear, grounded look at how people use these methods to manage chronic pain over the long term.Guest: Kirstin Lindquist, Business Owner, Acupuncturist & Intuitive TrainerKirsten is a licensed acupuncturist (California Acupuncture License #4661) and practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine with more than 30 years of experience helping people remove old patterns and reconnect with their true nature. Through acupuncture, qigong, and the teaching of intuition and personal energy management, she guides patients toward lasting health and personal transformation. Kirstin practices relational medicine, bringing deep presence and compassion to every patient interaction. She holds a Master's degree in Traditional Chinese Medicine from the Academy of Chinese Culture & Health Sciences and a bachelor's degree in Political Science from Stanford University. Today, she specializes in helping patients address metabolic health challenges - including high blood pressure, blood sugar, triglycerides, and other cardiometabolic risk factors - using evidence-informed, natural approaches.Energy Matters, WebsiteEnergy Matters, YouTubeGuest: Gail Whang, Teacher of Dayan "Wild Goose"​ QigongGail is a certified Dayan Qigong instructor and former educator who spent 30 years teaching in the Oakland Unified School District. After retiring, she discovered qigong—a practice that transformed her from a lifelong multitasker into a more mindful, balanced, and present person. Inspired by its profound impact on her health and well-being, Gail completed a year-long teacher training program at the Wen Wu School to become a certified instructor. Today, she is passionate about helping others experience the physical, emotional, and energetic benefits of qigong, empowering them to cultivate resilience, self-healing, and a more positive approach to everyday life.Gail Whang, YouTube9-week Beginner Qigong Online ClassLinks to interesting things from this episode:“The Intriguing Health Benefits of Qigong” The Wall Street Journal“Qigong and Tai-Chi for Mood Regulation” “The Treatment of Depressed Chinese Americans Using Qigong in a Health Care Setting: A Pilot Study”

  3. 14

    Unpacking: The Nervous System's Role

    Every pain you’ve ever felt is sent by, communicated through, or interpreted by your nervous system - so when pain becomes chronic, the nervous system often becomes the main story, not just the injured tissue.Dr. Megan Steele breaks down how the nervous system is organized (central vs. peripheral), why “fight or flight” isn’t the enemy, and what it really means to build a *flexible* system that can shift between activation and recovery. The conversation also unpacks central sensitization - when the alarm stays loud even after healing - and how stress, sleep, digestion, and past experiences can influence the body’s threat detection.You’ll also get clear guidance on a common internet claim: that trauma is “stored” in muscles and can be released through dramatic bodywork. Learn what’s supported, what’s risky, and what questions to ask any practitioner so you stay safe and supported.Links to interesting things from this episode:“The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma” by Bessel van der KolkWHOOP bandŌura Ring

  4. 13

    Unpacking: Chronic Pain and Nature

    What if 7 minutes of birdsong could measurably reduce muscle tension and help you think more clearly when pain or stress is running the show?Chronic pain can shrink your world fast: sleep gets disrupted, stress stays high, and it becomes harder to access the “thinking brain” needed for work, relationships, and decision-making. Holly and Dr. Megan explore a practical, research-backed reset that doesn’t require special equipment, long workouts, or perfect weather: intentional exposure to nature.You’ll learn what “forest bathing” actually is, why natural patterns like fractals may calm the brain, and how simple options like morning light, a slow walk, indoor plants (yes, even realistic fake ones), or a short nature-sound break can support stress regulation and recovery. The discussion also clears up a common question: is it true that weather changes can make pain worse? (Spoiler: you’re not imagining it.)Links to interesting things from this episode:“The role of sunlight in sleep regulation: analysis of morning, evening and late exposure” BMC Public Health“Nature and the Mind: The Science of How Nature Improves Cognitive, Physical, and Social Well-Being” by Marc Berman“The Efficacy of a Brief Nature Sound Intervention on Muscle Tension, Pulse Rate, and Self-Reported Stress” by Erin Largo-Wight, PhD, Brian K. O’Hara, MD, and W.William Chen, PhD“View Through a Window May Influence Recovery from Surgery” by Roger S UlrichDoctor Susan Abookire and the Nature & Systems Institute

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Unpacking Pain is a podcast about chronic pain - what causes it, how it affects our lives, and what we can do about it. Hosted by a pain scientist and a pain sufferer, it blends evidence-based science with lived experience to offer support, education, and empowerment.If you’ve ever felt unseen in your pain journey, know that you are not alone. Join us on Unpacking Pain as we peel back the layers of the chronic pain experience - where science meets story, and where knowledge opens doors to healing.Each week, Dr. Megan Steele, PT, DPT, PhD(c), and Holly Osborne, a chronic pain sufferer, sit down to explore the “three-legged stool” of chronic pain: the biological, psychological, and social. Together they demystify the science, share personal stories, and engage in candid conversations about the mind-body connection, treatment approaches, and the realities of living with and managing pain.What makes Unpacking Pain different is its unique yin-yang approach: Megan brings deep expertise in

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Unpacking Pain is a podcast about chronic pain - what causes it, how it affects our lives, and what we can do about it. Hosted by a pain scientist and a pain sufferer, it blends evidence-based science with lived experience to offer support, education, and empowerment.If you’ve ever felt unseen in...

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