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workshops work Podcast
by Dr Myriam Hadnes
This is a podcast about facilitation: the practice of creating conditions for people to think better together. Whether you’re leading strategy, navigating change or developing leaders, the quality of your conversations shapes the quality of your decisions. Hosted by Dr Myriam Hadnes, behavioural economist, facilitator and founder of workshops.work, each episode explores the human dynamics of working together: how psychological safety is built, why some conversations lead to action while others stall, how leaders foster genuine participation, and what behavioural science can teach us about collaboration. Alongside these conversations, Dr Hadnes shares reflections from her own client work, offering practical insights from the realities of designing and facilitating workshops in organisations. Recognised as the facilitation community’s most-recommended podcast in SessionLab’s State of Facilitation reports from 2024 to 2026, th
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356 - Great Facilitation Requires Professional Risk with Rob Evans
What if being professional is sometimes the very thing that gets in the way of good facilitation? In this conversation, Myriam and Rob Evans explore what happens when we take off the professional armour and bring more of ourselves into the room. Rob shares how humour, warmth and genuine curiosity...
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UPDATE: The Workshops Work Podcast Has Its Own Feed Again
Sometimes the best decisions only reveal themselves after we’ve made them. Six months ago, I merged my new podcast, Unprofessionalism, with the existing Workshops Work feed. It felt like the right move at the time. But the download statistics told a different story. Many listeners searching for...
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025 - The Courage to Be Fully Human at Work with Mariam Halfhide
This week's professional risk - inspired by Mariam Halfhide Telling someone honestly how their behaviour affected you, instead of hiding behind professionalism, blame or silence. This episode invites you to reflect on: Why do we suppress a difficult emotion although we know that it makes it even...
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024 - Beyond the Day Job with Jamell Crouthers
Jamell Crouthers has held a full-time job the entire time he's been writing. Sixty books in eight years, a podcast, blog posts, all of it built in the hours around his day work. He writes fiction about social issues — race, workaholism, homelessness, addiction — the kind of conversations most...
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023 - The Third Space: Belonging Comes First with Donatella Caggiano
Donatella Caggiano was living in a Best Western while her flooded apartment got fixed when she watched a SWAT team raid a neighbouring house to catch a fugitive. She caught herself rooting for the person running and then realised she was the person running. Donatella accepted the hint her body…
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022 - Speak Up or Shut Down with Gustavo Razzetti
Gustavo Razzetti once sat next to a woman at a corporate conference, judging the regional VP presenting on stage until she revealed that was her husband. Instead of backpedaling he apologised, then stood by every word. That instinct of owning the mess without pretending he didn’t mean it is the...
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021 - Innovation Before Consensus with Rori DuBoff
Rori DuBoff once took an unused office at Accenture, tore it down, and built a virtual reality studio from scratch with no formal approval and that's how she got the firm into the metaverse. She didn't wait for the green light. She brought in a few people who were equally excited, and delivered....
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020 - Fitting Out at Work with Emanuele Mazzanti
Emanuele Mazzanti is a day one rule-breaker. When he moved to EY Italy, his boss asked to be called "Dottore." He noticed the distance being created and suggested, politely, that they drop the formalities and just use first names. Surprisingly, the answer was yes. That’s a pattern he kept running...
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019 - How to Find Your Real Voice Again with Cathey Armillas
Cathey Armillas built her career the way most people are told not to. She doesn't separate what she loves from what she sells. Her sneaker collection became a filter for clients. Her obsession with waterfalls became a corporate training product. Her decades as a competitive softball pitcher…
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018 - The Norm Breaker's Privilege with Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor was once brought in to help eleven chief executives navigate a merger that would cost the job of some. Before the meeting, a more senior colleague on his team pushed back on touching that topic. It would embarrass them, he said. It was better to keep things “professional”.…
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017 - Small Talk Is Big Talk with Julie Brown
When Julie Brown was being poached from one company to another, they asked what she was currently earning. She told them a number she wanted to be true — what she deserved, not what she was making. They didn't blink. That’s how she spent 17 years as one of the highest-paid professionals in a...
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016 - The Courage to Say: I Don’t Understand with Jussi Hermunen
Jussi Hermunen was brought in as a consultant on a multimillion-euro project when he discovered that his go-to tool was on the client's prohibited software list. He used it anyway. Not out of recklessness, but because a diagram reads the same on a factory floor as it does in a boardroom. A…
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015 - The Price of Being Difficult with Tramaine Schilders-Teo
Tramaine has a rule for herself and everyone she manages: what you allow will continue. She learned by watching what happened when she didn't set a boundary, and what happened when she did. With +15 years of managing teams across industries and seven countries around the globe, she spent a lot of...
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014 - The Cost of Being Yourself with Michael Bungay Stanier
Thirty years ago, in a room full of blue suits with padded shoulders, pearls, and red ties — all competing for one of the most prestigious academic scholarships in the world — Michael Bungay Stanier walked in with long blonde hair, earrings, and a pink tie-dye tie. He was in his mid-twenties, in...
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013 - The Mask I Still Wear with Myriam Hadnes
While working in Vietnam, the uni president, once told me I was getting away with a lot — working from home, teaching with comic books, skipping the standard slide show — because I was young, female, pretty, and white. As harsh as it might sound, I know my Vietnamese colleagues would indeed never...
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012 - The Courage to Unmask with Roi Ben-Yehuda
Roi Ben-Yehuda was one dissertation away from finishing his PhD when he realised he didn't want what was waiting on the other side. He walked away. Then years later, settled into a good job he liked, with a new mortgage and two small babies at home, he felt that pull again and walked away from…
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011 - Claim It Before You're Ready with Leanne Hughes
Leanne Hughes wrote the name of a podcast she didn’t have on a blue Post-it note, dropped it in a hat, and when her name was called — walked on stage and described the show as if it existed. It didn’t. A few months later, the First Time Facilitator was born. That’s also how she landed a Wiley...
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010 - When a CFO Chooses Humanity over Numbers with Martin Frederik Garbers
When Martin Frederik Garbers’ company was acquired, he was handed the unenviable job of letting twenty-five people go. His own days were numbered too, but he chose to spend them sitting through the hard conversations, one by one, as a human being first – a CFO second. As he walked the Camino…
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009 - Creating a Return on Humanity (When ROI Isn't Enough) with Philippa White
As her classmates chanted the purpose of business (spoiler: to make money), Philippa White couldn’t help but feel like she'd wandered into the wrong room, as the business school black sheep. She'd grown up watching her uncle bridge worlds in apartheid South Africa – endlessly curious, fascinated…
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008 - The Generation That Refused to Fake It at Work with Alex McCann
Alex McCann isn’t a qualified career coach, occupational therapist, or psychologist. But he’ll be the first to tell you that. He walked away from a six-month internship, would sneak off to watch films when he should've been serving popcorn, and then decided he was done pretending he had it all...
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007 - The Good Girl Trap with Anna Lundberg
Anna Lundberg had spent her whole life being the good girl. Top of the class as valedictorian, Oxford graduate, and the shiny P&G title to show for it. She’d ticked every box, perfected the image, and then she did something very off-brand: she quit. What she didn’t expect was how long the good…
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006 - The Lie of Not Enough with Mark McCartney
Mark McCartney showed up to facilitate a C-level team in Berlin on the hottest day of the year, drenched in sweat, and opened by pointing out his own stain marks. They laughed. The room shifted. That's Mark — someone who left a 15-year finance career, spent a year in Peru, and has since asked…
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005 - When the Rules Stop Serving You with Rotem Kazir
Sometimes, just sometimes, the rules are there to be broken. Because when you dare to break them, miracles and moments of beautiful humanity could be waiting just on the other side. Rotem Kazir was trained never to let her coaching clients know anything about her. Keep distance. Stay neutral....
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004 - The Business Case for Belonging with Jon Berghoff
Jon Berghoff walked into a room of C-level executives from billion-dollar companies and noticed they'd all filled the back rows first. He spent two hours debating whether to say something. Then he got on stage and asked them to move to the front. The looks he got said: nobody has ever told us…
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003 - Unmasking Professionalism: Code-Switching as Survival with Dr. Tieren Scott
Early in her career, Tieren Scott was told she needed to sound more "bubbly" when presenting. Her manager pointed to a colleague in the room as the example. Tieren's natural voice — grounded, measured, clear — wasn't the problem. It just wasn't the default. That moment taught her something black...
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002 - From Taylorism to Trust: Rethinking Work’s Old Rules with Mike Parker
A software engineer fired a test missile and watched it cartwheel into the ocean. He looked at the code and thought: that looks like what would happen if I hadn't loaded all the microcode. Did I load the microcode? Oh God. Did he tell anyone? No. So they fired three more. Same result. He was too...
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001 - Permission Granted: Breaking Rules to Build Integrity with Jillian Reilly
Jillian Reilly was young, running a multimillion-dollar AIDS programme in Zimbabwe, and supposed to give a diplomatic speech to a room of religious leaders. She sat through the procession, looked at her script, and decided she couldn't do it. What she did instead nearly sent the US government...
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000 - Welcome to Unprofessionalism with Myriam Hadnes
Welcome to Unprofessionalism! My shiny new podcast, a provocation in the making, and the place to challenge everything we’ve been taught about being professional. Together, we’ll be peeling back the limitations of professionalism, on a mission to restore our humanness and bring joy, defiantly…
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355 - The Final Episode of Workshops Work with Myriam Hadnes
And that’s a wrap, folks! After 355 brilliant, beautiful, mind-opening conversations about facilitation, life, and everything in between, I can now confidently say that I have found the magic ingredients that make workshops work. Join me, myself, and I for a final farewell episode of Workshops...
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353 - How to Facilitate Constructive Discomfort through Brave Spaces with Dr. Dauv Evans
Brave work is messy work. It’s an invitation into the dōjō – to be humbled, to get vulnerable, and leave behind what you thought you knew. Life-long learner, executive coach, culture consultant and facilitator, Dr. Dauv Evans joins me this week to journey beyond safety into the brave space arena....
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352 - Less Thinking, More Sensing: Embodiment in Facilitation with Mirjam Leunissen
Take a moment to tune into your body. Do your muscles feel tense, is your heartbeat slow and steady, is your jaw clamped tight? Embodiment coach and one-week-old facilitator, my fiancée Mirjam Leunissen joins me this week for a podcast first! As a scientist in a past life, Mirjam spent her days...
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351 - The Fierce Compassion of Facilitation with Shireen Naqvi
From a childhood imaginary classroom, to the moments before a traffic light turns green, Shireen Naqvi has been viewing the world as a beautiful facilitation opportunity her whole life. Guided by the divine belief that humans are the best creatures in the universe, Shireen has made it her mission...
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350 - Workshops Without Words: Learning from the Clown with Suzanne Dietz
Not all clowns hide sadness behind a painted smile. Some wear their emotions on their sleeve, with earnest, overt authenticity, and deep self-awareness! After taking a sign language course, Suzanne Dietz discovered how freeing it was to express herself through non-verbal communication – and it…
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349 - Facilitation in Japan: Silence, Safety, and Subtlety with Yuko Gendo
Silence is a virtue, and nowhere is this more deeply understood than in Japan. A pause rich with meaning, where thoughts are carefully explored, emotions are quiet, and things are said, without any words at all. So, how do facilitators hold space amidst the subtlety? Facilitator, workshop…
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348 - Reclaiming Indigenous Wisdom in Facilitation with Katerina Kupenga
Carrying the wisdom of five generations before her, Katerina Kupenga inherited a special legacy from her ancestral namesake: the gift of Māori facilitation. And as a proud wahine Māori from Ngāti Porou, Katerina joins me to share this rich wisdom with us all. She guides us through the sacred...
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347 - When 100 People Feel Like One Team: Crafting Connection Online with Perle Laouenan-Catchpole
Gathering hundreds of people is most facilitators’ worst nightmare – but for Perle Laouenan-Catchpole, it’s her dream. With her signature feminine energy and warmth, Perle connects large online groups as one, cohesive team, creating a sense of belonging that sends ripples of impact throughout the...
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346 - Power, Confidence and the Courage to Speak Up with Matthew Hill
Do you dare to be powerful and confident? Matthew Hill, leadership trainer, conflict mediator, and intercultural facilitator has spent years guiding executives into their inner strength – but his approach might just surprise you. He invites us to reconsider power not as the most dominant voice in...
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345 - From Borders to Bridges: A Chaplain’s Journey with Deb Hansen
Reverend Deb Hansen received a metaphorical message in a bottle, urging her to go to the US-Mexico border – a life calling that she followed all the way to El Paso. As a facilitator-chaplain and quilter of the human experience, Deb has been there for people at the most painful and tender times of...
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344 - From Fear to Calm: Facilitating in an Age of Overload with Mike Parker
Does an empty cup have nothing in it? Possibilitarian Mike Parker, believes not in its nothingness, but in its potential. Because when we pour our thoughts, feelings, assumptions and beliefs out of the cup, setting everything free, we create a container of emptiness – to make space for what we...
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343 - The Paradox of Professional Facilitation with Vinay Kumar
If a facilitator goes unseen, are they any less present? This is the beautiful paradox of facilitation: as we grow more adept in our craft, our presence in the room becomes less noticeable – less needed – because we’ve subtly set the magic of facilitation into motion. Master of his craft Vinay...
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342 - Trust, Values and Change: A Facilitator’s Dialogue with AI with Holger Nauheimer
Can an AI bot really become a co-facilitator? Returning to the show with a new book co-authored by artificial intelligence and an AI sidekick named Nyx, is Holgar Nauheimer. After 30 years building a facilitation legacy, Holgar shares a glimpse into his latest phase of life: his companionship…
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341 - Driving Sustainable Change through Motivational Interviewing with Jeff Wetherhold
As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. And master of change Jeff Wetherhold is no stranger to this. He helps teams and leaders to create long-lasting, sustainable change not by plans, great intentions, or illusions of control, but through the…
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340 - From Archetypes to Authenticity in Leadership with Sarah Budd
Are we all just cosplaying as leaders? Donning a mask or a costume that helps us better play the role we think we should be playing? Helping leaders to show up with truth in a world that never stays still, is leadership psychologist and executive coach Sarah Budd. This week, she invites us to...
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339 - 1-Page Plans and the Discipline to Stay the Course with David Greer
Fuzzy goals, misaligned cultural values, and the allure of shiny object syndrome holds even the best entrepreneurs back. So what’s the secret to success? David Greer’s strategic one-page plans! Coach and facilitator of strategic planning, David coaches high-performing business owners to get...
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338 - Trust, Nerves and Group Dynamics at 2,000 Feet with Josie White
Bringing her childhood dream to life is Josie White, the hot air balloon pilot. From an early obsession with their magical, multi-coloured domes, to a fully-fledged pilot, Josie now flies and facilitates passengers 2000 feet up in the air over Australian soil. But when nerves naturally start to…
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337 - From Webinar to Workshop: Rethink Corporate Training with Myriam Hadnes
Corporate training, we all know the drill. The tonedeaf PowerPoint karaoke begins in the background, regurgitating slide content word for word, as you absentmindedly reply to an email…your mind still lingering in your last meeting. If episode 337 can do just one thing, I hope it can save you from...
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336 - Facilitating from the Middle: Holding Space Without Taking Over with Julia Slay
How do you teach facilitators to hold a group, master that crucial first 15-minutes of a workshop, and show them that they already have all the answers, without giving any away? As a researcher by nature, and a facilitator – at first by accident – Julia Slay learnt everything she knows about the...
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335 - Beyond Competence: Facilitating Uncertain Spaces with Rebecca Hopkins
How can you know yourself more? What would you tell your younger self? And what are you going to do with this life? Born with a microphone in her hand, and asking all of life’s big, juicy questions, leadership facilitator & coach Rebecca Hopkins brings her effervescent, thoughtful facilitation...
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334 - Before You Call the Lawyer: Reimagining Conflict with Ursula Taylor
Friday night card game clash, or shareholder dispute – at its core, all conflict is the same. Ursula Taylor has seen time and time again, from the court room, to the board room, that every conflict is created and perpetuated from unprocessed human emotion. From litigation attorney, to conflict...
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333 - Facilitating with Fabric, Feeling, and Freedom with Paula Short
A Mary Poppins’ bag of glitter, a big beating drum, a lump of clay, and a shiny gold crown. Bringing her wonderful, precious collection of props to the show, is the brilliant Paula Short. As a personal development psychotherapist, talented actress, and the founder of a 1997 youth centre,...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
This is a podcast about facilitation: the practice of creating conditions for people to think better together.
Whether you’re leading strategy, navigating change or developing leaders, the quality of your conversations shapes the quality of your decisions.
Hosted by Dr Myriam Hadnes, behavioural economist, facilitator and founder of workshops.work, each episode explores the human dynamics of working together: how psychological safety is built, why some conversations lead to action while others stall, how leaders foster genuine participation, and what behavioural science can teach us about collaboration. Alongside these conversations, Dr Hadnes shares reflections from her own client work, offering practical insights from the realities of designing and facilitating workshops in organisations.
Recognised as the facilitation community’s most-recommended podcast in SessionLab’s State of Facilitation reports from 2024 to 2026, th
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