Was It Good Though? Podcast

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The latest episode of X-Men 97 is out and it was a doozy and we got our brother Chappell, from the RECAP KICKBACK PODCAST, to help us break it all down! Polaris is back and is front and center of this episode. Xavier is still grieving his bestie. We discuss if main players are being sideline for new characters. Danger girl, what’s wrong with you. Apocalypse latest recruit. What does X- Corp mean for the X-Men moving forward and much more!

It’s been a month since Superman has died and the world has seem to be quiet . Clark is struggling trying to figure out life beyond the cape, but he’s struggling. Lois and Jimmy are nominated for an awards , along with Kara and MIA Superman . Jimmy has a new date, DR POISON. And per usual, she’s trying to ruin and take over the function. Bizarro , oh Bizarro. We get into this and more in this latest episode !!

We’re heading back to Westeros , and the game is being played. Rhaenyra’s adding members to the small council but at what cost? Helena potentially threatening the iron throne present new issues for Rhae Rhae. If Jazz was queen, she gives us her plan of action. Ormund and the Gold Cloaks. Ser Criston leading his team where? Daemon is befuddled and Aegon is read his rights by Larys. We get into this and more in this latest episode of House Of The Dragon!! 🐉

For Episode 215, we're diving into our very first Christopher Nolan film review with The Odyssey. Fresh out of the theater after experiencing the 172-minute epic, we break down the star-studded cast, breathtaking visuals, and the casting controversy that's had everyone talking.Is this already a Top 5 Christopher Nolan film? Which performances stood out the most? And was Odysseus actually a bad leader? We tackle all of that before answering the biggest question of them all: Was It Good Though?Let us know what you thought of The Odyssey in the comments! Did Nolan deliver another masterpiece, or did this epic fall short of the hype?

We’re back , for the final episode of THE VAMPIRE LESTAT and it was such a doozy.. we enlisted Correta and Anthony, from the Talkin Ish A Podcast Amongst Friends, to help us break it ALL DOWN! We discuss who orchardtred the attack. Why Coretta feels as if Claudia sacrificed the most. Armand ? Lestat and the failures. What’s next for him and the Great Convergence. We discuss this and more but more importantly, 7 weeks later we let you all know WAS IT GOOD THOUGH!?

Possibly the best episode of the season, Episode 5: "The Death of Superman," delivered on every level. Even with a runtime of less than 30 minutes, the nonstop action, intense fights, and Superman getting tossed around made it feel much bigger than its length.Now we want to hear from you! What was your reaction after watching this episode? Where do you think the story goes from here now that Clark appears to be far less "super" than he was before? And what do you make of John Kent? Was that a version of him from another universe, or was it the same John who previously tried to change his future?There are so many interesting theories floating around, and we can't wait to see how everything unfolds in Episode 6.

Weapon X, lies, and DVDs perfectly describe this episode.We watch Wolverine step into a leadership role, but it quickly becomes clear that leading a team isn’t one of Logan’s strengths, at least not without a little help from his biggest admirer, Morph. The episode leans heavily into horror elements while revealing a side of Wolverine that neither of our hosts expected to see.What did you think of the latest episode? Drop your thoughts in the comments and let us know if this one lived up to your expectations!

We're dragon riding into Episode 4 of House of the Dragon for another Side Quest Review! Rhae Rhae is finding her footing as Queen and continuing to build her Small Council, while Daemon is collecting coins, searching for daughters, and attempting a cover-up that could come back to bite him.This episode also gave us a deeper look at the unique bond between the Targaryens and their dragons, something the series hasn't explored nearly enough. We also dive into some of our biggest theories coming out of the episode. Is Helaena pregnant? Where is Aemond? And is Lord Ormund a villain we should be keeping a close eye on?Join us as we break it all down, and let us know your thoughts and theories in the comments below!

"It's not the blood, it's how you use the blood." We're sinking our teeth into Episode 6 of The Vampire Lestat, and this one had everything, messy behavior, shady business, and one OMEGA Level Threat that had us glued to the screen.This episode also introduces us to Merrick, whose arrival brings back an incredibly angry Claudia. And can we take a moment to give Delainey Hayles all the flowers? She absolutely stole every scene she was in and delivered one of the standout performances of the season.What did you think of Episode 6? Drop your thoughts, favorite moments, and any theories you have heading into the season finale!

The Crews back with another episode of of WIGTP. This week we’re going back to ‘96 , for the hilarious invasion film MARS ATTACKS! We discuss if we think this movie is a great representation of the how people would behave during an invasion. If there’s space for a film with a stacked cast , in this silly type of film. The raunchy jokes. Jack Nicholson characters in the movie. If we’d want to make first contact with an alien. We discuss this and more but more importantly, WAS IT GOOD THOUGH!?

We’re back with another review of MY ADVENTURES WITH SUPERMAN, and we enlisted our FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD SUPER NEGRO, Anthony from @T​⁠!! Jon is here and Lois is going mad! Jimmy the blocker. Kara the lost. Clark’s the daddy! We get into the episode , what’s to come , and what we think will be coming next for this franchise !

We are back with the cliff hanging season opener with the conclusion to The Rise Of The Apocalypse. /with this explosive episode , we had to enlist Anthony from Talkin Ish A Podcast Amongst Friends to come and get nerdy with us. Is your destiny written? Was Magnus new lease on life a bit to foggy colored? El Saba Nurs tragic past. Kang? Externals? The 4 Horsemen? Not Dean Malenko and crew, this and a lot more!

Happy 250th Birthday, America! To celebrate, we're taking it back 30 years to revisit the blockbuster classic Independence Day. Neither of our hosts had watched it in quite some time, so this review brought back plenty of memories and sparked some surprising conversations.Does Independence Day still hold up three decades later? Would the American government make the same decisions if an alien invasion happened today? And if extraterrestrials really showed up, would you welcome them to Earth with open arms?We tackle all of those questions, along with plenty of laughs, hot takes, and nostalgia, before answering the biggest question of them all, Was It Good Though?

Week after week this show ceases to amaze us with more book lore and how they are adapting it for the modern time. We discuss the muses for the music this episode and Jazz has found her favorite song. The band well, i think we got to break it up. The pod hates Armand but we're not clear on whos on the right side of history right now. Is he lying to Daniel about walking in the sun? Louis is doing what with Claudia? Jazz and Jason revisit an earlier conversation about Louis and if it is healthy. And Lestat? Do better Louis, but we also talk about what has the internet going nuts, A K A S H A! Long awaited and we talk if it lived up to the moment and much more!

Poor Rae Rae. She is now on the Iron Throne, but the job is not finished. house party, check! Blessing of the Throne, check! Blessing those who helped get me here, not so good! Rae abandoned her Dragon Stone council and may have possibly lost one of her last trusted members, Corlys. Rhae knights the bastards, but does not legitimize Addam as a Velyarian and this will have ongoing issues. We discuss taking out Daeron without true confirmation. Rhaenyra's grade as Queen her first day out and much more!

Fresh off our Supergirl review, the crew is taking flight into Season 3 of My Adventures with Superman for another Side Quest Review. We're joined by our brother Anthony from Talkin Ish: A Podcast Amongst Friends to break down the first three episodes of the new season.We dive into how this version of Jimmy Olsen is a far cry from his live-action counterparts, discuss the Reign of the Supermen storyline, and debate whether Lois might actually be the season's true villain. Jason is also holding out hope that Batman makes an appearance this season but we'll have to wait and see if the Dark Knight finally shows up.Let us know what you thought of the first three episodes! Share your theories, expectations, and any surprise cameos you're hoping to see as the season unfolds.

"To me, my X-Men!" We're back with X-Men '97 Season 2 for another Side Quest Review!After a two-year wait, the series picks up right where Season 1 left off. Our heroes have been scattered across time, some sent to the past, others to the future, but both groups find themselves on a collision course with En Sabah Nur, better known as Apocalypse.This week, the crew dives into the first three episodes, talks about getting more time with Storm and Bishop, and discusses which mutants we'd love to see make their debut this season.What did you think of the first three episodes? Where do you think the season is headed? Let us know your predictions in the comments!

We’ve officially arrived at “Queen’s Landing” in Episode 2 of House of the Dragon with our brother Anthony from Talkin Ish: A Podcast Amongst Friends, and there is so much to unpack. From Emma D’Arcy delivering an Emmy-m worthy performance, to Rhaena searching for a place of refuge, to Alicent staying busy behind the scenes, where do we even begin?Team Green continues to stack up the well deserved L’s, and we’re not complaining. We also got a rare, beautiful moment with Corlys and his family enjoying some peace on the beach, a much needed breather after the battle.What did you think of this week’s episode? Drop your favorite moments, biggest takeaways, and your wildest theories in the comments!

The DCU has released its latest film “Supergirl!” Jazz, Jason, and Our Brother In Pod Anthony , from the Talkin Ish Podcast , A Podcast Amonst friends , discuss the film and the Women Of Tomorrow comic the film is adapted from! Our first introductions to Kara Zor El! The podcast discusses Ruthyes contribution to the team. Jason Mamoa as Lobo. Kara’s past and different backgrounds . What about the sounds of the film? The critics? We answer this and more when answering WAS IT GOOD THOUGH!?

Jason’s back to break down episode 3 of Raising Kanan! We discuss Marvin, Raq, and Flossie’s new alliance . Stefano meets with Pino and hating resumes and now’s sending people to take our their business . Juke and Detective Garcias new relationship. Juke joins Marvin. Marvin has a spiritual crisis. Raq hires some hitters and much more!

“Did you hear that, Armand?”This week, we're joining Lestat and the band on The Devil's Road for our The Vampire Lestat Episode 4 Side Quest Review. This series continues to surprise us and keep us on the edge of our seats. We're diving into everything from learning more about the mysterious vampire Sofie to Armand's apology tour and whatever Louie Del La Joe Goldburg has going on. This episode planted plenty of theories about what's coming next and hinted at some serious danger for several characters, especially Regina (aka Claudia).Jazz has a question for all the book readers, and Jason reveals he wouldn't hesitate to be Louie's fake son for $500,000. So hop on the tour bus and whatever you do, don't flush the "powdered makeup." You're going to need it. What did you think of Episode 4? Drop your theories and let us know where you think the story is headed!

The Dragons are dancing and we are back with a bang. Jason Is confused at who's who and what's going on but Jazz is focused up and our Throney guide on this journey. Yes we recap the previous finale and our feelings leading up into season 3. We get into our leads this season, the journeys they are taking and where do we see this thing in the end. We talk about kissing , and yes, that awkward one. The bastards and if they can be trusted. Jace's fall from grace, Rhaena and her new toy and so so much more!

Ouuu Ouu Ouuu Ahh ahhh! This episodes helps to not only contextualize "Long Face" but also retell an earlier Armand story told to Louie but also peel another later of Lestat. We discuss parallels to Nicolas and Louis and how the former situation helped to better equip for the latter. The tragedy of Nicolas. Gabriella's welcome has been worn. Bruce the bastard is back but so is Louis Blade the Vampire Slayer. We get in to this and much more including those final powerful moments in the closure of Louis, Lestat , and special appearance .

For Episode 211, we're switching things up to discuss the classic satire Hollywood Shuffle. Joining us for the conversation are our pod cousins: Lisa from ReelMovieLovers , along with Anthony and Helaine from Talkin Ish: A Podcast Amongst Friends, making for a lively and entertaining panel.We dive right into how the film tackles topics and industry conversations that are still relevant today. It's remarkable that Robert Townsend was able to create such a timeless gem, one that continues to spark discussion decades after its release.Are we still seeing "Thug #2" and "Ghetto Baby Momma #9" typecasting in modern films? Are British actors really taking American roles? And will Mandingo really leave those Black queens in the dust? We cover all of that and more. With this crew, the conversation inevitably gets a little unhinged, but only a little. Eventually, we bring everything back around to answer the biggest question of all, Was It Good Though??

Many Men 🎶 wish death upon meee and this episode was this song personified ! Jason is back with another Raising Kanan review . Things begin to heat up for all the players on the board! Raq and Marvin have their backs against the wall as they scramble to find new distribution. Snap and Pop coalition sets a new deal with Stefano but it comes with a cost. Unique has to figure out his next moves while also thinking he’s being iced out by all parties involved . Juke and Iesha take a step back due to a scare but we get into all this and more on this latest side quest!

This week on Queued Up, As Requested, we’re reviewing the Spanish film Goat Girl. After having the film sent our way, we knew we had to add it to the queue. The crew dives into this coming-of-age story, exploring its themes of loss, spirituality, and friendship. Along the way, our hosts share personal connections to the film’s message while also highlighting its striking visuals and storytelling. Of course, no discussion would be complete without answering the question that matters most, Was It Good Though? 🎬

Widow's Bay has taken the internet by storm and we'd like to visit . We enlisted our sister in pod Britt, from the Talkin Ish A Podcast Amongst Friends, as a New England Native to guide us on this journey. We discuss the ensemble casting and why we feel this show was a hit. The blend of horror and comedy . Our favorite characters in the show . Our favorite episodes. What would we do if we were Ruth , or Tom for that matter. And most importantly we answer if Widow's Bay truly the next Martha's Vineyard!

We're back with Episode 2 of The Vampire Lestat for another Side Quest Review, and Mommy has officially arrived! After a brief introduction to Sofia/Gabriella at the end of Episode 1, we get a much deeper look at her character in this episode. Through a series of flashbacks, we explore Lestat's family dynamics, the abuse he endured, and the powerful bond he shared with his mother.Our crew kicks things off by discussing Lestat's "Mama's Boy meets Targaryen behavior" before diving into the ongoing saga of Toxic Louis. We also tackle an important vampire question: if you were immortal, would you stay monogamous or spend eternity living your best life? Join us as we break down the episode's pettiness, shouting matches, social media reactions, and where we think Louis' journey is headed next.

Jazz's Birthday and the podcast anniversary seemingly land on the same day. So we ask you before you begin to please raise your glass as Jazz celebrates her 30th birthday for the x time and the podcast turns 4 years old! Time flies when you're having fun, or so they say. Jason and Jazz have one of our most intimate conversations where this time a movies and tv isn't center stage , but their journey is and the path to today. We share laughs, struggles , misconceptions but most importanly WAS THE JOURNEY GOOD THOUGH?

New SIDE QUEST ALERT! Interview with a Vampire is one of our favorite series , but the new show has a new focuses THE VAMPIRE LESTAT. We get into the new vibe the show is now showing to us. When did OGs have to check into cities?? FANG GANG!? Daniel Malloy is back and he’s embracing his new role. The tone shift from the previous series to now. Louie has a “real man” moment . Lestat the rockstar! We talk about if we were bit, what position would we like to be in and so much more!

Twenty-six years after the Wayans brothers changed the comedy landscape with Scary Movie (2000), they’re back with Scary Movie (2026) and, naturally, we had to cover it for Episode 209. With much of the original cast returning, the franchise delivers another outrageous mix of laughs, parody, and unapologetically offensive humor.In this episode, we discuss the franchise’s return, break down which jokes landed (and which didn’t), and debate whether we’d be interested in seeing a Spoof spin-off series, featuring a few of our favorite shows. Jazz also shares highlights from her AAFCA roundtable conversation with Shawn and Marlon Wayans, while Jason imagines how the film might have looked with Melissa Barrera in the cast.Between the jokes, nostalgia, and plenty of laughs, we still answer the most important question: Was It Good Though?

The crew is back with another Side Quest Review! This time, we’re diving into Amazon Prime’s latest series, Spider-Noir. For this discussion, we brought in our brother Anthony from Talking Ish: A Podcast Amongst Friends , along with first-time guest Chris from T3 Media Studios. We jump right into our thoughts on Ben Reilly, Cat (aka Grace), and whether Ben measures up to his fellow Spider-Men counterparts. Anthony provides insight from the perspective of a longtime Spider-Noir comic reader, while Chris poses a great question: if Nicolas Cage hadn’t originally voiced Spider-Noir in Into the Spider-Verse, would he have even been considered for the role? The entire panel agrees that Cage delivered an incredible performance and left nothing on the table. Things get a little silly along the way, but we still tackle all the big topics, without using a single web during the recording….and most importantly, answer the question, Was It Good Though???

“Who Sent You?” — Alamo | “Rue” — AliWe’re closing the door on Season 3 of Euphoria with our Side Quest Review of Episode 8. For this one, we had to bring back our brother Anthony from Talking Ish: A Podcast Amongst Friends, and we wasted no time getting into it. We shared our thoughts on the finale, reflected on the season as a whole, discussed how our feelings evolved throughout the journey, and said goodbye to our sister Rue. We also talked about how Kitty’s BBL somehow got more screen time than Jules in this episode and revisited the emotional Rue and Fez flashback that hit us right in the feels. I won’t say tears were shed during the review, but they definitely made an appearance while we were watching the episode. Let us know your thoughts on the season and the series as a whole. And as always, we have to ask, Was It Good Though???

Boosters? Are you ready? Where all my scamming a$$ ninjas? We are back with our 208th episode and we are discussing Boots Riley latest project, I Love Boosters. We discuss our theater experiences. Our favorite scene . Keke Palmers comedic run. The raunchiness of the movie . Our expectations from the film. Who we look forward to versus who we aren’t. Jazz love after lockup? This and much more but of course the reason you’re here, WAS IT GOOD THOUGH?!

We’re back with our latest QUEUED UP AS REQUESTED, A Promising Young Woman. It’s the part of the show where we allow the listeners to dictate what we’re reviewing ! In this lastest episode we discuss Cassandra and how her past has a hold on her. Jazz has thoughts about what Cassandra is doing to “victims.” The subversive nature of the film . And of course, WAS IT GOOD THOUGH!

The crew is back with another Side Quest Review, and this time we’re diving into Netflix’s Nemesis. This action-packed heist thriller delivered nonstop tension, wild twists, and enough chaos to have us already anticipating what a Season 2 could look like if it gets announced. We break down the cat-and-mouse dynamic between Isaiah and Cold Train, debate whether Isaiah was truly the villain of the series or simply a terrible husband and father, and discuss whether Deon deserved the opportunity to prove himself before the decision that ultimately cost him his life. Of course, we also had to acknowledge the beautiful Black cast because this series definitely gave us a little eye candy alongside all the drama and action. After all the betrayal, shootouts, and messy relationships, we had to ask the ultimate question… Was It Good Though?

First and foremost, RIP to those we lost in this episode. Euphoria continues to be an absolute chaotic ride, and Episode 7 didn’t let up for a second.We’re back with another Side Quest Review, and this one got intense fast. The episode opens with an Ali flashback featuring a special appearance from a podcast favorite before throwing us straight into the chaos. We see the fallout from Cassie’s decision to shut down her OnlyFans, Maddy falling deeper into Alamo’s grip, and Rue continuing her own side quest as the season heads toward the finale.While Jules was noticeably absent this episode, Lexi definitely showed a more judgmental side, and we may have finally reached the end of Nate. A lot went down, and we’re breaking it all down. Let us know your thoughts on the season so far and any theories you have going into the season finale.

For Episode 207, we’re diving into one of the most talked-about horror films of 2026, Obsession. With all the conversations surrounding this movie, we had to bring in a few friends to help break it all down. Shout out to our brothers Ivy, Mike, and Furb for joining us for the discussion. We talk about our theater experience, the elements that make this film stick with audiences long after the credits roll, and whether Nikki deserved any blame for how she handled Bear prior to the wish being made? The fellas waste no time holding Bear accountable for the terrible and predatory decisions he made throughout the film. Was Sarah really Nikki’s biggest opp? Was Ian ever truly Bear’s friend? We get into all of that and more.Of course…the biggest question remains: Was It Good Though?

We’re back with another Queued Up, As Requested: Vanilla Sky. The 2001 romance thriller starring Tom Cruise , Penelope Cruz, and Cameron Diaz. We discuss our dreams. If David, Tom, character was a good friend . We also discuss if he’s been manipulating women . What is this ending? What do you think happened ? We also discuss how movies today have dumbed down stories and made it easy to follow even if you’re not paying attention. And of course WAS IT GOOD THOUGH?!

The crew is back with another Queued Up, As Requested episode, and this time we’re discussing Is God Is — one of the most creative films released this year. Written and directed by Aleshea Harris, the film stars Sterling K. Brown and Vivica A. Fox in a gripping story centered on sisterhood and revenge.Our crew dives into the film’s striking cinematography, the importance of Black-led films, and why it’s time to give Sterling K. Brown his flowers. We also break down the ending and, of course, answer the ultimate question: Was It Good Though?

We’re back with Euphoria Episode 6 for another Side Quest Review, and this time we finally got our brother Ivy to pull up and join the discussion. Jason talks about wanting a Cassie and Lexi spinoff, while the crew dives into the toxic dynamic between Rue and Jules and how both of them play a part in the chaos. We also break down how Nate continues to move like he’s living in his own world.From the emotional flashbacks with Ali to the big questions about where the story is headed with only two episodes left, we get right into all the highs, drama, and tension this episode brought to the table.

We’re back with our last THE BOYS Side Quest, EVER! Did they STICK the landing? Lisa and Ivy join us as we did a watch party and broke it all down in real time. Homelander versus Marie Moreau? Sister Sages ending. Frenchies death was it for nothing? Gen V and Ryan appear in the finale and we discuss their use this season. Butcher versus Homelander ends very wild! Butchers last attempt to end it all. Starlight versus The Deep! Huey , Starlight, and Robin?? We discuss this and more as well as WAS IT GOOD THOUGH?!

20 years later , the legacy continues ! Welcome back to the Was It Good Though Podcast , the podcast about movies and TV shows and with Lisa from the ReelMovieLovers podcast we are breaking down lastest from the Devil Wears Prada. Before we get into the present film, we discuss the original movie. We discuss being put on the back burner for our significant others career . How we feel about legacy sequels and the returning or all the major players . We talk about the call backs from the different films and how they are different with the times . We discuss what are some iconic moments we wanted to see or recreated with a new flair . Jazz discusses Andy’s new love interest. We also discuss how media is handled in today’s society. The difference in their industry back in 06 and today, but also the difference

We’re back with another THE BOYS side quest and this one is , inspiring! Chapell is back of the RECAP KICKBACK podcast and The crew kicks off with their thoughts and feelings on 87 % of the show complete and 1 episode’s left . Sister Sages motivations or lack there of… sniffing butts we wasting time! Soulja Boy is about to take a trip just not of his own volition .

This week on our Euphoria Side Quest Review, we’re diving into Episode 5 of the chaotic hit series. Jason has finally seen the light and realized the shark has officially been jumped. We break down the character development this season, share our thoughts on the complicated Rue and Jules situation, and debate whether Rue is actually “bad vibes.” Jazz calls out a possible plot hole in regards to Bishop. Let us know your thoughts on the season so far!

Our Side Quest Reviews are back with Punisher: The Last Kill. After wrapping up Daredevil: Born Again Season 2 last week, we had to talk about where Frank Castle has been. This short special delivered a gory, violent, and surprisingly emotional ride. It also left us with a few big questions: Do these events take place after Born Again Season 2? How does Frank eventually cross paths with Spider-Man? And who is the mysterious woman hunting Frank down? This special dives deep into Frank’s PTSD, the weight of his trauma, and why he remains one of the most dangerous men in the Marvel universe when pushed too far. We break down all of that and more in this review. Please share your thoughts in the comments!

GET OVER HERE!!! We’re heading back to the NetherRealm for Episode 205 to discuss the highly anticipated Mortal Kombat 2. Our crew previously reviewed the first film back in Episode 66, and we revisited a few of the points we brought up then. We dive into the introduction of Johnny Cage, why Princess Kitana feels like the true focal point of the movie, and the pointless online drama surrounding Jade’s (Tati Gabrielle) appearance in the film. Fair warning, the Mortal Kombat fandom energy was overflowing throughout this episode.With a third film already confirmed and a new video game possibly on the way, the spark behind the franchise continues to grow. Would you want to see a spin-off series or a new animated film?And with all that being said, we still had to ask the ultimate question, Was It Good Though?

The Boys and Jazz are back are we take a Side Quest to episode 6 . Paul Resier is back as The Legend and we discuss why is it that Homelander doesn’t take him out. Annie (Starlight) is on Fraud watch. We confront JediMike for his thoughts about Gen V. Sage is the smartest woman but she just made the dumbest move or was it all a ploy? The V1 has been found and Soldier Boy has make a trade for it , Homelander is now IMMORTAL and we have 2 episodes left join us for thr Chaos today!

We’re back with another SIDE QUEST REVIEW: Euphoria Season 3 Episode 4! We allow JediMike to kick off the episode with his Season 3 grievances. Jazz downgrades the Cassie and Nate clock from 5 minutes to 3. The crew discusses real life issues of being a content creator and trying to cut through. Growing up with Euphoria versus watching Euphoria as an adult . Lexi and Jules learn lessons in communication and expression. Rue WTF!? The police only seem to care about their case, not their informants . RUE WHAT THE FFF?! We get into this and so much more !