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Waters Wavelength
by WatersTechnology
Wei-Shen Wong and Anthony Malakian discuss the hottest financial technology topics in the capital markets every week.
Episodes
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Episode 359: GPU compute market and Sibos
Shen and Nyela chat about their recent two-part feature on the budding GPU compute market. Then, Nyela gives an overview of what went down at Sibos 2026, held in Miami. https://www.waterstechnology.com/trading-tech/7953251/the-gpu-compute-index-race-begins...
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Episode 358: Tradeweb’s Chris Bruner
To start on a somber note, this Friday will mark the 25th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on 9/11. WatersTechnology was hosting its first-ever event at Windows on the World at the top of the North Tower. Click here to read our memorial article:...
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Episode 357: Off topic, on record
It’s the last week of August. Tony, Reb, and Shen get together to chat about movies, TV series, music, and books. Listeners, be warned: this episode contains profanity.
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Episode 356: When software fails
Tony and Shen go through this story about Nasdaq’s trade surveillance software failing to send alerts. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953177/red-alert-how-nasdaqs-smarts-became-surveillance-blind-spot
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Episode 355: Faculty’s David Bholat
This week’s guest is David Bholat, director for professional and financial services at Faculty. (0:00) – Shen talks about her recent trip to Vietnam (8:00) – David joins the podcast (10:30) – Pilot purgatory (15:30) – Focus on the integration quality (20:30) – Steps for successful production...
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Episode 354: Vibing on vibe coding
It’s just Tony and Shen this week. They discuss Tony’s latest feature about vibe coding. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953113/vibe-coding-is-burning-us-out
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Episode 353: ExeQution Analytics’s Cat Turley
This week’s guest is Cat Turley, CEO and founder of ExeQution Analytics. She joins the podcast to discuss the gap between investment data and trading alpha. (0:00) – Shen has a cold (5:30) – Cat joins the podcast (9:00) – Challenges in getting context from data (14:30) – Techs vs. traders vs....
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Episiode 352: Agentic workflows, AI bootcamps, regulation, and faves from Seoul
Tony catches Shen up on all the stories WatersTechnology published while she was on vacation. Stories mentioned: https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953074/symphony-introduces-agentic-workflows-to-core-platform...
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Episode 351: MarketAxess’s Lee and Alexandre
This week, Spencer Lee, head of products, Americas, and Julien Alexandre, global head of research at MarketAxess, join the podcast to discuss AI in fixed income trading....
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Episode 350: AI but make it about data basics
This week, Wei-Shen and Tony talk about a new AI study. (0:00) – Tony rambles on about crazy Uber fares (6:00) – Then, they discuss a recent AI study done by PwC.
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Episode 349: The other Amsterdam and more Cusip drama
This week, Wei-Shen chats with Rebecca Natale, EMEA editor for WatersTechnology, about Reb’s recent trip to the Netherlands, and the latest on the Cusip legal drama. (0:00) – Reb is thrilled to be on this episode. She talks about her little adventure to Amsterdam in the Netherlands (9:30) – Then,...
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Episode 348: FIA Boca, prediction markets, and the stupidity of Chatham House rules
This week, Anthony chats with Nyela Graham, senior reporter for WatersTechnology, who subs in for Wei-Shen to talk about the hot topics at FIA Boca. 0:00 – Tony and Nyela have a rant about Chatham House rules. 15:30 – Nyela recaps FIA Boca—everything from prediction markets to tokenization to…
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Episode 347: Brennan Carley
This week, Brennan Carley, who has spent more than 40 years working in financial technology, joins to discuss the hidden risks and untapped potential of agentic AI in the capital markets. 0:00 – Tony and Wei-Shen discuss boxing, MMA, and why our dreams of becoming professional fighters were…
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Episode 346: TS Imagine’s Andrew Morgan
This week’s guest is Andrew Morgan, president and chief revenue officer at TS Imagine. He talks with Wei-Shen about how fixed income trading behavior is changing. (0:00) – Tony’s side hustle (7:00) – Andrew joins the podcast and gives an overview of his background (13:00) – Changing fixed income...
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Episode 345: Patrick McGarry’s Ride to Remember
On September 11, 2001, Katie McGarry Noack had just arrived at the World Trade Center’s Windows on the World. She was attending Waters’ first-ever conference. Of the thousands who lost their lives on that day, Katie was one, along with 70 other delegates who had arrived to catch the morning...
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Episode 344: Hot topics for 2026
A little late, but a very Happy New Year from your favorite podcast hosts! This week, Tony and Shen discuss topics they think capital markets firms will focus on this year—AI and agentic AI, quantum computing, and—you guessed it—market data.
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Episode 343: Broadridge’s Jason Birmingham
This week’s guest is Jason Birmingham, CTO and head of global engineering at Broadridge (0:00) – Tony and Shen reminisce on an amazing snowman they built (7:00) – Jason joins the podcast and explains the “modern CTO mandate” (14:30) – The fundamentals matter (16:00) – A platform strategy (20:30)…
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Episode 342: LexisNexis Risk Solutions’ Sophie Lagouanelle
This week’s guest is Sophie Lagouanelle, vice president of product for financial crime compliance at LexisNexis Risk Solutions (0:00) – Tony and Shen talk about their Spotify 2025 Wrapped (5:00) – Sophie joins and reflects on the state of financial crime (14:00) – Volume and speed (17:30) – AI…
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Episode 341: Citi’s Pitts and Topa
This week’s guests are Michele Pitts, managing director and global product head of transaction management, and Marcello Topa, director for global market advocacy, policy, and strategy at Citi Investor Services 0:00 – Reb and Shen talk about the death of rom-com movies 9:30 – Michele and Marcello...
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Ep. 340: The sad state of journalism
The week of Thanksgiving in the US is one of the slowest news weeks of the year. So Anthony and Nyela Graham (who is subbing in for Wei-Shen) talk about the news media, instead.
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Episode 339: Northern Trust Asset Management’s Jan Rohof
This week’s guest is Jan Rohof, Asia-Pacific director of quantitative strategies and solutions at Northern Trust Asset Management https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7952654/northern-trust-asset-management-enlists-network-theory-to-construct-alpha-signals?ref=header-search 0:00…
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Episode 338: BBH’s Mike McGovern
For the first 9 minutes, Tony rambles on about US elections…naturally. The good stuff starts at 9:30, when Mike McGovern, global head of technology engagement at Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), joins the show. Over the course of 30 minutes, Mike and Tony talk about the importance of building an…
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Ep. 337: Interop.io’s Bob Myers
Bob Myers runs Interop.io’s io.Intelligence unit. He joins the podcast (7:30) to explain what agentic AI really means (16:00); how the promise of agents could be good for interoperability between applications and systems (21:00); the hype versus reality of AI at financial institutions (25:00); an...
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Ep. 336: Tokenization mania
Over the last few weeks, the CEOs of several major financial institutions, as well as regulators around the globe, have been talking about tokenization, stablecoins, and blockchain. Wei-Shen and Tony do their best to unpack why this is significant.
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Episode 335: Some tech talk...kinda
This week’s episode is one of those where Wei-Shen and Tony blather on about an array of things, including generative AI, cybersecurity, and Taylor Swift’s new album. Listen at your own risk.
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Episode 334: BofA’s Krishnan and McInnes
This week, Bank of America’s Ashok Krishnan and Duncan McInnes join Tony to discuss the build, buy, borrow strategy and instilling the right culture within the bank. 0:00 – Shen and Tony talk about the Risk Live Asia 2025 conference in Singapore 7:30 – Ashok and Duncan join the podcast 11:30 –…
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Episode 333: Baseball, analytics and therapy
No guest this week, folks. Tony and Shen discuss recent books they’ve read about data and analytics, and…humanity.
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Episode 332: DTCC’s Val Wotton
This week’s guest is Val Wotton, global head of equity solutions at DTCC. He joins to discuss the necessary steps leading up to the T+1 transitions in the UK and EU. 0:00 – Reb and Shen talk about Reb’s time in upstate New York 6:00 – Val Wotton joins the podcast and discusses the metrics from US...
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Episode 331: Cresting Wave’s Bill Murphy
This week’s guest is Bill Murphy, managing partner at Cresting Wave 0:00 – Tony and Shen discuss System of a Down and Gorillaz 6:00 – Bill Murphy, Blackstone’s former CTO, joins to discuss that much-discussed MIT study on AI projects failing and factors executives should consider as the…
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Episode 330: AI hot takes
This week, Shen and Reb discuss a recent MIT study on GenAI pilots, and Reb’s recent story about ModuleQ dissolving. https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf...
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Episode 329: LLMs and the dead internet theory
This week, Reb and Tony talk about the internet and the problems compounded by AI. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7952665/the-great-disappearing-internet%E2%80%94and-what-it-could-mean-for-your-llm 0:00 – Welcome to the team, Mya! You can reach her at...
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Episode 328: FundGuard’s Lior Yogev
This week’s guest is Lior Yogev, CEO and co-founder at FundGuard. He joins the podcast to discuss legacy tech stacks at asset management firms. 0:00 – Tony and Shen talk about personalities 10:00 – Lior Yogev joins the podcast 12:30 – When does a tech stack become legacy? 19:00 – How asset…
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Episode 327: Standard Chartered’s Mo Rahim
This week’s guest is Mo Rahim, group chief data officer at Standard Chartered, who joins the podcast to discuss data and AI governance and guardrails for AI. 0:00 – Tony and Shen talk about recent shows they’ve watched 9:00 – Mo Rahim joins the podcast 13:30 – Understand your core identity 17:00…
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Episode 326: Connectifi’s Nick Kolba
This week’s guest is Nick Kolba, CEO and co-founder of Connectifi, who joins the podcast to discuss the Model Context Protocol, LLMs and agentic AI. 0:00 – Tony and Shen talk about Astronomer’s ad campaign 5:30 – Nick Kolba joins the podcast 8:00 – Step changes or big jumps in tech 18:00 –...
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Episode 325: Octaura’s Brian Bejile
This week’s guest is Brian Bejile, cofounder & CEO, Octaura 0:00-7:20: Anthony Malakian and Rebecca Natale, Europe Editor for WatersTechnology, complain for seven minutes about poor customer service and artificial intelligence. 7:20-35:23: Brian Bejile and Nyela Graham, senior reporter at...
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Episode 324: A philosophical conversation about AI
This week, Reb and Nyela discuss BNY’s digital workers and what the use of AI in society signals for the future.
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Episode 323: MarketAxess’s Chowdhury and Burke (plus some Cusip updates)
This week, Riad Chowdhury, head of Asia-Pacific, and Dan Burke, global head of emerging markets at MarketAxess, join to discuss block trading in fixed income. Plus Reb discusses her recent article about Cusip and updates on the class action lawsuit moving through the courts. 00:00 Reb and Tony...
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Episode 322: Navigating air travel and cybersecurity
This week, Reb, Nyela, and Shen discuss concerns around air travel and notable cybersecurity incidents. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7952488/agentic-ai-takes-center-stage-bank-tech-projects-new-funding-rounds-and-more?cx_artPos=1&cx_testId=4&cx_testVariant=cx_1#cxrecs_s...
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Episode 321: AccessFintech’s Par Cassells
This week, Par Cassells joins Nyela to discuss shorter settlement cycles and the role of vendors in the transition. 0:00 – Tony and Nyela talk highlights from the Tech & Data in Financial Markets (TDFM) conference 7:00 – Par Cassells, chief client officer at AccessFintech, joins Nyela on the...
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Episode 320: Tradeweb’s Chris Bruner
This week, Tradeweb’s Chris Bruner joins the podcast to discuss digital assets and fixed income. 0:00 – Reb is back in NYC! 6:30 – Chris Bruner, chief product officer at Tradeweb, joins Nyela on the podcast 13:30 – Tradeweb’s history with blockchain 18:40 – Gauging client reception to digital...
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Episode 319: Bloomberg IB chat and operational resiliency
Tony and Shen discuss Bloomberg’s addition to IB chat, common threads in our Voice of the CTO series, and op resiliency. Our Bloomberg story: https://www.waterstechnology.com/data-management/7952434/bloomberg%E2%80%99s-chatbots-streamline-external-data-sharing-otc-trading Our Voice of the CTO...
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Episode 318: Hamilton Lane's Griff Norville
This week, Hamilton Lane's Griff Norville joins to discuss how the asset manager is tackling private markets data. 0:00 – Eliot joins Tony on the podcast 3:10 – Griff Norville, head of technology solutions at Hamilton Lane, joins the podcast 4:40 – Private markets data extraction 6:10 – Data...
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Episode 317: Bitdefender and Transilvania Quantum
This week, Bitdefender’s Adrian Coleșa and Transilvania Quantum’s Sorin Boloș join to discuss security vulnerabilities in quantum computing 0:00 – Tony is back! 3:30 – Adrian Coleșa, Senior Security Researcher at Bitdefender, and Sorin Boloș, quantum software engineer at Transilvania Quantum…
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Episode 316: Finbourne Technology’s Toby Glaysher
This week, Toby Glaysher, chairman at Finbourne Technology, joins the podcast to discuss the asset servicing industry. 0:00 – Reb and Shen rant about using ChatGPT for academic projects 12:00 – Toby Glaysher from Finbourne joins the podcast and gives an overview of his 36 years of experience in…
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Episode 315: Company names and the loans market
This week, Reb, Nyela, and Shen talk about unimaginative company names and then address some challenges in the loans market. 0:00 – Reb goes on a rant about company names 9:00 – They discuss the challenges in the loans market 14:00 – Identifiers are so esoteric
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Episode 314: Capco’s Bertie Haskins
Bertie Haskins, executive director and head of data for Apac and Middle East at Capco, joins to discuss the challenges of commercializing data. 0:00 – Reb and Shen discuss Reb’s potential as the next host 3:00 – Bertie Haskins from Capco joins the podcast 5:30 – Four key areas around...
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Episode 313: FIS Global’s Jon Hodges
This week, Jon Hodges, head of trading and asset services for Apac at FIS Global, joins the podcast to talk about how firms in Asia-Pacific approach AI and data. 0:00 – Tony and Shen talk about having faith in humanity 9:30 – Jon Hodges, head of trading and asset services for Apac at FIS Global,...
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Episode 312: Jibber-jabber
Tony, Reb, and Nyela talk about tariffs (not really), journalism (sorta), and pop culture (mostly).
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Episode 311: Blue Ocean’s Brian Hyndman
Brian Hyndman, CEO and president at Blue Ocean Technologies, joins to discuss overnight trading 0:00 – Nyela and Reb talk about Reb’s start at WatersTechnology 5:00 – Brian joins the podcast and walks through his background and the beginnings of Blue Ocean ATS 8:00 – How market data works for…
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Episode 310: SigTech’s Bin Ren
This week, SigTech’s CEO Bin Ren joins Eliot to discuss GenAI’s progress since ChatGPT’s emergence in 2022, agentic AI, and challenges with regulating AI. 0:00 – Wei-Shen and Tony discuss their bar trivia adventures 5:30 – Bin Ren, CEO of SigTech, joins Eliot on the podcast 7:00 – Agentic AI…
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