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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson
by WNTT
The most powerful conversations are the ones we usually avoid. Hosted by Paul C. Brunson, We Need To Talk is a show that empowers people to have the conversations they avoid by creating a safe, supportive, and insightful space that encourages vulnerability, self-discovery, and real-world connection. From breakups to breakthroughs, conflict to connection, we go beyond the headlines to uncover the human experiences and relationships that define us.Instagram: @needtotalkTikTok: @weneedtotalkpod
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The Conversations That Could Save Lives: We’re Talking Suicide Prevention
TW: This episode discusses suicide and mental health. Nadiya Hussain and Tyler West open up about their experiences with mental health, from childhood trauma, bullying and the pressure of identity to depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts. Nadiya opens up about the bullying she experienced throughout her childhood, how it shaped her relationship with her identity, self-worth and trust, and the impact of growing up in a home where difficult emotions were rarely spoken about. She also reflects on her faith, motherhood and the importance of creating a space where her children can talk openly about their feelings and mental health. Tyler shares the life-changing trauma of witnessing a murder at 14, the PTSD that followed and how keeping it all inside eventually led to a suicide attempt. He reflects on finding his voice, the importance of talking about what we’re going through, and how the things that have broken us can sometimes become our greatest strength. If you’re struggling, you’re not alone. We’ve included support charities below: Samaritans: https://g2ul0.app.link/xghDmmYV4Wb Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM): https://g2ul0.app.link/npaQKXUV4Wb (00:00) Intro (00:35) Nadiya Opens Up About Being Bullied at School (03:15) How Bullying Impacted Nadiya's Mental Health (04:23) Nadiya Opens Up About Her Suicide Attempt and What Saved Her (07:40) Nadiya's Lifelong Struggle With Anxiety and the Importance of Speaking Out (13:26) Tyler Shares the Traumatic Event He Witnessed as a Child (18:41) How Childhood Trauma Impacted Tyler's Mental Health (21:28) Tyler Opens Up About His Suicide Attempt and What Saved Him Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dr Terry Dubrow on Botched, Ozempic And Plastic Surgery “They Put Concrete In Her Face!”
Star of Botched and The Swan, Dr Terry Dubrow became one of reality TV’s most recognisable surgeons, but this conversation reveals what was really happening behind the shows that made him famous. Terry looks back at the shows that made him famous, from the backlash surrounding The Swan and Bridalplasty to why he initially thought Botched was a terrible idea. He reflects on what producers pushed for behind the scenes, the moments he refused to cross a line with patients, and why surgical training can create the confidence - and “God complex” - needed to make life-or-death decisions. He also confronts the darker side of cosmetic surgery, from dangerous BBLs and medical tourism to the rise of “looksmaxxing”. Terry revisits the patient no surgeon would touch after concrete-like material was injected into her face, and the operation he created after 11 other surgeons had refused to help her. He also explores how Ozempic, GLP-1s and rapid weight loss are changing the face of cosmetic medicine. Away from surgery, Terry opens up about fame, family, staying strong at 67, and the extraordinary story of forging Heather Dubrow’s signature to get her onto The Real Housewives of Orange County. Funny, provocative and unexpectedly personal, this is Dr Terry Dubrow beyond Botched. Dr Terry Dubrow, We Need To Talk Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Dr Terry here: https://www.instagram.com/drdubrow (00:00) Intro (02:20) Paul And Dr Terry Discuss PK (04:24) How Dr Terry Stays Fit At 67 (09:03) Why Dr Terry Became a Cosmetic Surgeon (16:07) Dr Terry on The Swan and Its Controversy (24:46) Why The Swan Was Cancelled (27:02) Inside The Controversial Bridalplasty TV Show (36:06) Anthropic Ad (37:27) How Dr Terry Joined Real Housewives (41:59) How Botched Became A Hit (46:53) The Patient No Surgeon Would Touch (51:49) Rajee's Message To Dr Terry (56:50) Why BBLs Can Be Deadly (01:01:19) The Dangers Of Medical Tourism (01:04:33) Dr Terry Gives Paul Breast Implants (01:07:36) How Beauty Trends Change Surgery (01:12:12) Dr Terry On GLP-1 Weight Loss Drugs (01:24:27) Why Looksmaxxing Is Dangerous (01:30:39) Inside Dr Terry's Marriage (01:33:18) What Fatherhood Taught Dr Terry (01:37:32) Dr Terry Reads Heather's Letter (01:41:11) Dr Terry's Most Memorable Conversation (01:43:21) Paul's Biggest Takeaways Sponsored by: Anthropic - https://www.claude.ai/talk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Why Chemistry Isn’t Always Love! Dr Tara Swart
Dr Tara Swart reveals the surprising neuroscience behind love, attraction and relationships - from the hormones that drive bonding to the hidden signals our brains use when choosing a partner. She explains why oxytocin is so important for love and trust, how stress can affect our relationships, why smell can be a powerful attraction signal, and what happens in the brain when a new relationship becomes sexual. Tara also explores why delaying sex may help create stronger bonds, and how evolution continues to influence who we find attractive. We're Talking Relationship Neuroscience! (00:00) Intro (00:30) How the Brain Shapes Our Relationships (02:32) The Key Parts of the Brain That Affect Relationships (04:09) How Dr Tara Defines Love (06:40) The Brain Chemicals Behind Love and Relationships (13:00) How Smell Influences Romantic Attraction (16:38) The Science Behind Physical Attraction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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GK Barry: I’m Finally Ready To Tell My Story
GK Barry became one of the internet’s biggest personalities, but this conversation reveals the Grace Keeling behind the fame, the jokes and the confidence. She reflects on being bullied at school, feeling desperate to fit in, and learning to make people laugh before anyone could laugh at her. Grace opens up about her relationship with her body, becoming obsessed with being thin, and how the attention that came with changing her appearance reinforced everything she believed about herself. She also speaks about witnessing racism through her dad Andrew, discovering her sexuality, and falling in love with Ella Rutherford - from the fear of letting people know to finding a relationship where she finally feels accepted for who she is. For the first time, Grace shares an experience from when she was 17 involving a 27-year-old man, and the years of confusion and self-blame that followed. She explains why she didn't report what happened at the time, the advice she was given by police, and how it took her years to understand what had happened to her and recognise that it wasn't her fault. Funny, honest and deeply vulnerable, this is GK Barry ready to tell her story. GK Barry, We Need To Talk Content warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault and disordered eating. We have included links to support charities and resources here: The Rape Crisis England & Wales 24/7 Support Line is available day and night on 0808 500 2222, with free online chat also available on their website https://linkly.link/2sHpO Beat Eating Disorders https://linkly.link/2sHpG MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow GK Barry here: https://www.instagram.com/gkbarry_/ https://www.tiktok.com/@gkbarry Buy Grace’s Book - It's Giving Life: A Guide to Surviving and Thriving: https://linkly.link/2sHqS (00:00) Intro (01:37) How Paul and Grace First Met (03:37) Grace vs GK Barry: What's the Difference? (06:53) Why Grace Wanted to Come on We Need To Talk (10:04) Growing Up Outside the UK (15:15) Stepdad's Impact on Grace's Life (18:38) Moving Back to the UK as a Child (26:10) Shopify Ad (27:23) Not Fitting In At School (44:41) Struggles With Appearance (52:45) Career Ambitions After Leaving School (57:06) Paul Surprises Grace With A Letter (01:07:23) The GK Barry Persona (01:10:06) How Grace Monetised Her Social Media Success (01:15:05) Grace's Rise From TikTok to Television (01:21:48) Huel Ad (01:22:55) Grace on Writing Her First Book (01:25:14) Grace Opens Up About Her Experience of Sexual Assault (01:37:47) When Grace Realised She Was Attracted to Women (01:42:16) How Grace and Ella Met (01:46:54) Why Grace and Ella's Relationship Works (01:52:43) Grace Reads a Letter From Ella (01:57:17) Grace's Love of Prosecco (01:59:48) Most Memorable Conversation (02:02:15) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Huel - http://uk.huel.com/WNTT use code WNTT for £10 off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Why Happy Couples Still Fight & “69% Of Problems Never Go Away”
Paul sits down with world-renowned relationship experts John and Julie Gottman to uncover the science behind love, marriage and lasting connection. They reveal why happy couples still argue, why 69% of relationship problems never truly go away, and why conflict itself isn’t what destroys relationships. From the small daily behaviours that strengthen intimacy to the habits that can slowly damage a partnership, the Gottmans share decades of research into what makes relationships thrive. A fascinating conversation about love, trust, communication and the secrets behind couples who stay together. (00:00) Intro (00:28) Is Marriage Outdated? (07:43) The Gottmans Define a Successful Relationship (12:28) The Gottmans Explain the 6-Second Kiss (16:20) The Number One Cause of Arguments in Relationships Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Love Island’s Simba & Angelista: He Had Options, I Had None
Love Island 2026 finalists Simba and Angelista reveal what really happened in the Love Island villa, from their relationship and the “villain edit” to the moments viewers never saw. The Love Island couple open up about falling in love on the show, exploring other connections, public pressure and Angelista’s experience as a Black woman in the villa. Simba also opens up about growing up with his mother’s motor neurone disease, becoming one of her carers and how that responsibility shaped his ambition, emotions and the man he became. Together, Simba and Angelista revisit the private conversations that brought them closer, the moments that tested their relationship and what it was like falling in love under constant scrutiny. Angelista also speaks candidly about desirability, representation and the pressure she felt knowing Black women were watching her experience unfold. Raw, vulnerable and deeply personal, this is Simba and Angelista revealing the relationship and pressures that existed beyond the Love Island edit. Simba and Angelista, We Need To Talk Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Simba and Angelista here: https://www.instagram.com/simbakudyiwa/ https://www.instagram.com/angelistagundax/ https://www.tiktok.com/@angelistagundax (00:00) Intro (02:07) Why Simba Wanted To Talk (08:21) Did Simba Fall in Love on Love Island? (12:07) Simba's North London Upbringing & Zimbabwean Heritage (14:03) Simba's Mother's Health Condition (23:09) Simba's Parents' Divorce (29:33) How Simba Cares for His Mother (33:39) How Simba Applied for Love Island (36:41) Simba's First Impressions of Angie (40:20) Anthropic Ad (42:09) Angie's First Impressions of Simba (44:01) How Simba & Angie Established a Connection (47:22) The First Test of Their Relationship (52:17) Being a Black Couple on Love Island (54:55) When Simba & Angie Fully Trusted Each Other (58:33) Their Thoughts on Finishing Third (01:01:17) Did Angie Find Love on Love Island? (01:05:17) Angie's Experience as a Black Woman on Love Island (01:12:28) Why Angie Felt She Had Limited Options in the Villa (01:16:20) Diversity in Reality TV (01:19:57) The Positives of Angie's Love Island Experience (01:25:55) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Anthropic - https://www.claude.ai/talk Sync ID: MB01HWZIBVN2A3S Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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“I Had No Confidence” Perrie Edwards: The Shy Girl Who Became a Pop Star
Perrie Edwards sits down with Paul to reveal how a painfully shy girl with no confidence was pushed into auditioning for The X Factor and became one quarter of Little Mix. (00:00) Intro (00:24) Perrie's Childhood and Moving Around Growing Up (04:07) Perrie Opens Up About Her Childhood Health Issues (08:13) How Perrie's Childhood Shaped Her as an Adult (11:20) Perrie on Living Without a Sense of Smell (17:57) When Perrie Realised She Wanted to Become a Singer (24:17) The Story Behind Perrie's X Factor Audition Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Farrah Abraham: What Fame Did To Me After 16 & Pregnant
Farrah Abraham opens up about MTV’s 16 and Pregnant, Teen Mom, becoming pregnant at 16, and losing the father of her daughter while she was still carrying Sophia. Farrah revisits being pregnant as she stood at Derek’s casket, the last words they exchanged, and the grief that followed while millions watched her become one of reality TV’s most controversial stars. Farrah also reveals the reality behind Teen Mom, from the period she says she was living in her car while filming to the pressure of processing Derek’s death in the public eye. She reflects on fame, money, plastic surgery, her sex tape and why she now sees some of her most public decisions through the lens of depression, trauma and a desperate need to feel loved. Now, with Sophia approaching adulthood, Farrah reflects on therapy, breaking patterns from her own childhood and choosing a different relationship with her daughter. Raw, unpredictable and deeply personal, this is Farrah Abraham confronting the moments the world judged without knowing what was happening behind them. Farrah Abraham, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of mental health. If you’re struggling, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Farrah here: https://www.instagram.com/farrahabraham https://www.tiktok.com/@farrahabraham (00:00) Intro (03:32) Farrah Abraham's Childhood and Upbringing in Iowa (04:40) Paul Shows Farrah a Childhood Photo With Her Parents (06:13) Farrah Opens Up About the Reality of Her Childhood (13:41) Paul Shows Farrah a Photo With Her Ex Derek (14:58) Farrah and Derek's Relationship Before 16 and Pregnant (20:26) The Last Time Farrah Saw Derek (25:22) How Farrah Found Out Derek Had Died (28:44) Farrah Opens Up About Derek's Funeral (32:04) Farrah's Experience Filming 16 and Pregnant (37:45) Huel Ad (39:07) Teen Mom and Farrah's Tumultuous Relationship With Producers (46:06) The Story Behind Farrah Abraham's Sex Tape (51:51) Why Farrah Was Fired From Teen Mom (54:51) Farrah Opens Up About Her Arrests (56:54) Farrah's Relationship With Her Parents Today (59:59) Farrah on Cosmetic Surgery and Body Dysmorphia (01:07:05) Has Farrah Been in Love Since Derek? (01:08:28) What Farrah Looks for in a Relationship (01:12:46) Farrah Reveals Her Best and Worst Dates (01:15:12) Paul Shows Farrah a Photo With Her Daughter Sophia (01:17:23) How Farrah Has Changed as a Mother (01:20:38) How Farrah Helps Sophia Navigate Growing Up in the Public Eye (01:25:48) Farrah Reads a Letter From Her Daughter Sophia (01:30:08) Why Farrah Abraham Is Running for Office in Texas (01:36:22) Most Memorable Conversation (01:42:04) Paul's Takeaways Huel - https://uk.huel.com/WNTT Try Huel Black Edition ramen , use code WNTT for £10 off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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"Real Housewives Was The Downfall Of Our Marriage" PK Paul Kemsley
Paul Kemsley sits down with Paul to reveal the reality of filming The Real Housewives of Beverley Hills with ex-wife Dorit. (00:00) Intro (00:39) How PK Joined The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (07:08) PK's Life Before The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (09:07) How RHOBH Impacted PK's Family Life (12:00) The Behind-the-Scenes Politics of RHOBH (14:44) Why PK Left The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (17:57) Does PK Love Himself Today? (20:29) PK Opens Up About Online Trolls and Reality TV Fame Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Vikkstar: What It Really Took to Build The Sidemen (we didn’t plan for anyone to leave)
Vikkstar opens up about the extraordinary rise of the Sidemen, the relentless work that built his YouTube career, and what happens when the group you built your life around begins to change. He reflects on KSI’s departure, the future of the Sidemen, and why they never really had an exit plan. Vik looks back on going from a quiet teenager who never felt like he fitted in to turning down a place at UCL and spending up to 16 hours a day making videos. He reveals how YouTube became his entire identity, why he sometimes went days without speaking to anyone in real life, and how seven gamers accidentally created one of the biggest creator groups in the world. He also speaks candidly about living with Crohn’s disease, the reality of having an incurable condition, and the impact years of relentless work had on his health and perspective. Vik reflects on criticism, success, money and the point at which he realised he needed a life beyond views, uploads and Vikkstar123. From scoring at Wembley after being the kid nobody picked for football to building businesses alongside the Sidemen, this is a conversation about obsession, friendship, reinvention and the hidden cost of turning your childhood hobby into your whole life. Vikkstar, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of mental health. If you’re struggling, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Vikkstar here: https://www.instagram.com/vikkstar https://www.tiktok.com/@vikkstar (00:00) Intro(02:18) Upbringing in Sheffield(09:39) Vikkstar’s Pet Duck(15:58) Identity as a Teenager(17:03) How Vikkstar Started Making Gaming Videos on YouTube(21:48) Why Vikkstar Started Appearing on Camera(23:31) Realising YouTube Could Become a Business(31:25) Shopify Ad(32:27) Reality of Growing a YouTube Channel(42:35) Paul Shows Vikkstar a Photo of The Sidemen(43:42) How The Sidemen Were Formed(49:28) The Sidemen's Goals and How They've Changed Over Time(53:14) What It Was Really Like Living in the Sidemen House(01:00:17) Dealing With Online Criticism(01:04:31) Inside The Sidemen Business Empire(01:08:50) How The Sidemen Handle Disagreements(01:12:23) The Sidemen's Latest Projects(01:17:00) Vikkstar's Music and DJ Career(01:23:50) Struggle With Crohn's Disease(01:33:32) Proposed Social Media Ban for Under-16s(01:36:18) Future Goals(01:38:01) Advice to His Younger Self(01:40:27) Most Memorable Conversation(01:43:23) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What Everyone Should Know Before Ending a Marriage: We're Talking Divorce withJames Sexton
Divorce lawyer James Sexton breaks down what divorce really means, what you need to know before leaving a marriage, and why the smartest decisions are often made long before the legal paperwork begins. James explains how divorce works, what happens when a marriage is legally terminated, and the key questions people should consider before starting the process. From dividing assets to preparing for what comes next, this episode offers clear guidance for anyone considering divorce or trying to understand it. We're Talking Divorce (00:00) Intro (00:30) James' Definition of Divorce (02:28) What to Do if You're Unhappy in Your Marriage (07:40) When Should You Speak to a Divorce Lawyer? (12:04) Three Things to Know Before Getting Married (14:46) The Number One Cause of Divorce (19:42) The Future of Marriage and Divorce Rates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Trewley Precious: The Real Cost of Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives
Reality TV star Trewley Precious opens up about the strict family rules that shaped her childhood, the freedoms her brothers had that she did not, and the personal cost of sharing her life publicly. The Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives star and TikTok creator reflects on growing up with both Gypsy and non-Gypsy heritage, and the criticism she received after telling her family’s story. Raised on a council estate by a Gypsy father and non-Gypsy mother, Trewley explains why her estate became her safe space and how fear, loyalty and survival shaped her understanding of love and freedom. She also speaks candidly about leaving an unhealthy relationship, losing her father to cancer and entering Tempting Fortune during one of the most painful periods of her life. Trewley reveals why winning the show gave her the validation she had always wanted from her dad. Trewley explains how she pitched Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives herself, why the series sparked debate and why it represents her family’s experience rather than every Gypsy woman’s story. Raw, funny and deeply personal, this is a conversation about identity, grief, cultural pressure and breaking generational cycles. Trewley Precious, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of mental health. If you’re struggling, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Trewley here: https://www.instagram.com/trewleyprecious https://www.tiktok.com/@itstrewleyprecious (00:00) Intro (03:18) Trewley's Essex Childhood (07:01) Trewley's Gypsy Heritage (19:07) Paul Shows Trewley a Childhood Photo (21:40) Strict Gypsy Traditions and Family Rules (33:58) How Trewley Started Creating Content (50:38) Filming Tempting Fortune (54:34) Trewley's Dad's Death Impacted Her Family and the Gypsy Community (58:31) Shopify Ad (59:33) How Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives Was Created (01:01:33) The Positive Impact of Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives (01:06:07) Trewley Reads an Emotional Letter (01:10:23) Behind the Scenes of Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives (01:17:58) Trewley's Siblings on Filming Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives (01:25:56) Dating and Relationships (01:30:09) Mission to Change Perceptions of the Gypsy Community (01:39:08) Most Memorable Conversation (01:43:40) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Hear’Say And Liberty X Feud That Changed British Pop
Before The X Factor, there was Popstars - the reality show that created Hear’Say, led to Liberty X and changed British pop culture overnight. Myleene Klass and Michelle Heaton share what really happened behind the scenes, from being thrown into overnight fame and branded winners and losers, to the press-fuelled rivalry between the two groups, the money they never saw and the mismanagement that helped bring it all crashing down. We're Talking Popstars! (00:00) Intro (00:30) How Michelle Was Cast on Popstars (03:41) What Happened After Popstars Ended? (06:33) How Liberty X Was Formed (10:44) The Manufactured Rivalry Between Liberty X and Hear'Say (13:54) The Rise and Success of Liberty X (15:54) How Myleene Klass Was Cast on Popstars (17:45) How Popstars Changed Myleene Klass's Life (21:49) The Wild West of the Music Industry in the 2000s (25:33) Why Hear'Say Split Up (29:06) Myleene Klass's Favourite Memory From Hear'Say Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Big Brother’s Chantelle Houghton Finally Speaks Out "I Don't Want To Hide Anymore"
Celebrity Big Brother winner Chantelle Houghton opens up about overnight fame, her relationship with Preston, the loneliness behind the headlines, and the years she spent staying silent about what she was going through. 20 years after entering the Big Brother house as the only non-celebrity, Chantelle reflects on going from 80p in her bank account to earning £1 million in six months. She revisits the pressure of becoming one of the most recognisable women in Britain, losing friends, struggling with her identity, and realising that having everything did not stop her from feeling completely alone. Chantelle also speaks candidly about falling for Preston, why they should never have married, and how their relationship changed once the cameras disappeared. She opens up about Page 3, the darker side of the entertainment industry, living in fear, and the moment she decided she no longer wanted to hide. Raw, revealing and deeply personal, this is Chantelle Houghton ready to reclaim her story and live life on her own terms. Chantelle Houghton, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of mental health. If you’re struggling, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Chantelle here: https://www.instagram.com/chantelle_houghton/ https://www.tiktok.com/@chantelle_houghton (00:00) Intro (02:10) Why Chantelle Is Speaking Out Now (05:44) Childhood in Essex (08:39) Life Before Celebrity Big Brother (16:08) Being Cast on Celebrity Big Brother (21:03) How Chantelle Dealt with Fame Overnight (31:04) Davina McCall Surprises Chantelle (34:39) Life After Celebrity Big Brother (38:43) Huel Ad (39:48) Relationship with Preston (42:15) Marriage to Preston (46:42) Why Chantelle and Preston Divorced (48:24) The Return to Big Brother (50:17) Never Mind the Buzzcocks (52:25) Class in Britain (58:00) Preston Surprises Chantelle (01:01:25) Chantelle’s Agent After Big Brother (01:06:14) Motherhood and Raising Her Daughter (01:07:55) Chantelle Reflects on Toxic Relationship (01:16:24) Chantelle's Relationship Today (01:20:53) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Huel - https://uk.huel.com/WNTT Try Huel Black Edition ramen, use code WNTT for £10 off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Blake Remembers The Real Amy Winehouse "She Was My Best Mate”
15 years after Amy Winehouse’s passing, Blake Fielder-Civil reflects on one of music’s most talked-about and misunderstood love stories. From meeting Amy in Camden to the intensity of their relationship and the heartbreak that helped shape Back to Black, this conversation looks beyond the headlines at love, fame, addiction, and the complexity of remembering someone the world thought it knew. (00:00) Intro (00:31) How Blake and Amy Winehouse First Met (03:21) What First Attracted Blake to Amy Winehouse? (07:09) Blake Addresses Rumours About Dating Other People During Their Relationship (11:13) Amy Winehouse's Relationship With Fame (13:57) Paul Shows Blake a Photo of Him and Amy Together (16:44) The Huge Success of Back to Black (21:42) How Blake and Amy Rekindled Their Relationship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Joey Graceffa On The Life He Hid Behind YouTube: I Lost The Mum I Knew
Joey Graceffa opens up about YouTube fame, Escape The Night, coming out online, love, family, and the private experiences behind the life millions of viewers grew up watching. In this deeply honest conversation, Joey reflects on the reality of becoming one of YouTube’s earliest stars while still trying to understand who he was away from the camera. Joey looks back on the childhood that shaped him, the complicated family dynamics he grew up around, and the moments that made him feel different before he had the language to explain why. He also reflects on building a life online, the pressure of being watched by millions, and the fear of what might happen if his audience saw the parts of him he was still learning to accept. Joey also opens up about his relationship with his mum, the pain of loving someone you can no longer save, and the boundaries he eventually had to set to protect himself. He speaks about shame, identity, first love, and the coming out video that changed everything. Joey Graceffa, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of mental health and addiction. If you’re struggling with these themes or your own mental health, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Joey here: https://www.instagram.com/joeygraceffa/ https://www.tiktok.com/@joeygraceffa (00:00) Intro (01:49) Joey's Childhood in Marlborough, Massachusetts (03:48) Joey's Family Life Growing Up (08:15) How Joey's Parents' Divorce Affected Him (11:25) Paul Shows Joey Childhood Photos (13:53) Joey Opens Up About His Mother's Mental Health Struggles (27:40) Huel Ad (29:02) How Joey Started His YouTube Career (31:45) Joey on Navigating His Sexuality as a Teenager (34:00) Joey's Experience at Maker Studios (36:18) Joey's Coming Out Journey (45:07) Behind the Scenes of Joey's Coming Out Video (49:21) Joey's YouTube Success and Advice for Creators (56:45) Joey's Thoughts on Rising Negativity Online (01:01:55) Joey's Career as an Author (01:04:21) Joey Opens Up About His Relationship With His Ex-Boyfriend (01:11:55) Joey's Relationship With His Sister Today (01:13:28) Joey Reads an Emotional Letter From His Sister (01:16:32) Most Memorable Conversation (01:18:38) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Huel - uk.huel.com/WNTT Try Huel Black Edition ramen , use code WNTT for £10 off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Who Is The Real Dami Hope?
Love Island’s Dami Hope opens up about his life before reality TV, from his Nigerian roots to growing up in Ireland and the moments that shaped his identity. Dami reflects on his family’s move from Nigeria, being one of the only Black children in his town, changing his name, facing racism at school, and learning how to fight for himself and his siblings. This is a personal conversation about belonging, identity, family, resilience, and the man behind the public image. (00:00) Intro (00:27) Dami's Nigerian Roots and Growing Up in Ireland (06:22) The Realities of Being Black in Ireland (10:20) Dami Opens Up About Bullying and Fighting at School (20:57) How and Why Dami Changed His Name as a Teenager (23:10) Dami's Career as a Microbiologist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Olivia Bowen: I Lost Myself After Giving Birth & What Love Island Never Showed
Love Island star Olivia Bowen opens up about the show, Alex Bowen, motherhood, body image, mental health and the private experiences that shaped the woman she is today. In this deeply honest conversation, Olivia reflects on growing up after her parents’ divorce, the emotional patterns she carried into her teenage years, and the relationship that changed how she saw herself before entering the Love Island villa. She revisits the overnight fame that followed, the scrutiny surrounding her relationship with Alex, and the moments that helped her understand she was loved in a way she had struggled to believe. Olivia also speaks about pregnancy, birth, postpartum, loss, and the realities of becoming a mother while still learning how to care for herself. Raw, emotional and unfiltered, this is Olivia Bowen ready to tell the truth behind the life everyone thought they knew. Olivia Bowen, We Need To Talk (00:00) Intro (01:34) Olivia's Childhood in Essex and Essex Stereotypes (03:03) How Olivia's Parents' Divorce Affected Her (08:09) Olivia's Relationship With Her Father During Childhood (13:37) Olivia Reads an Emotional Letter From Her Father (19:52) Olivia Opens Up About Her Teenage Mental Health Struggles (30:09) Huel Ad (31:23) Olivia's Modelling Aspirations After Leaving School (33:14) Olivia Opens Up About Her Toxic Relationship Before Love Island (36:32) How and Why Olivia Joined Love Island (39:03) Olivia's Mental Health Struggles in the Love Island Villa (42:18) How Love Island Season 2 Compares to the Show Today (44:49) Did Olivia Fall in Love With Alex in the Love Island Villa? (47:09) Paul Shows Olivia a Photo of Her and Alex on Love Island (51:00) How Olivia Handled the Huge Success of Love Island Season 2 (56:23) How Olivia and Alex Stayed Together After Love Island (58:59) Olivia Receives a Surprise Message From Love Island's Tina (01:02:04) Olivia's Biggest Highlights After Love Island (01:05:01) The Story of Alex's Proposal to Olivia (01:08:33) Olivia Reads an Emotional Letter From Alex (01:11:26) Saily Ad (01:12:45) Olivia Opens Up About Pregnancy and Postnatal Depression (01:24:53) Olivia's Experience of Vanishing Twin Syndrome (01:31:33) Paul Shows Olivia a Photo of Her Family (01:39:30) Most Memorable Conversation (01:41:40) Paul's Takeaways This episode includes discussion of eating disorders, mental health, and baby loss. If you’re struggling with these themes or your own mental health, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Beat Eating Disorders: https://linkly.link/2dx8y Harmless: https://linkly.link/2lcoq Tommys: https://linkly.link/2feiZ Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Olivia here: https://www.instagram.com/oliviadbowen https://www.tiktok.com/@thebowens Olivia’s Book, Lost Until Love: TG Jones: https://www.tgjonesonline.co.uk/product/olivia-bowen/lost-until-love--learning-to-find-myself-again---as-featured-on-olivias-itv2-show-olivia--alex-parenthood/15998524 Audiobook: https://open.spotify.com/show/17bItR7WBfaN1EE7F7yLZD?si=d3b67a7511fc437b Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Huel - https://uk.huel.com/WNTT - Try Huel Black Edition ramen , use code WNTT for £10 off Sync ID: MB01ZC6OYFJB81Z Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We're Talking The Cost of Alcoholism
For Alcohol Awareness Week, Backstreet Boys star AJ McLean, and performer Louie Spence, open up about the impact alcohol addiction has had on their lives and families. In this shorter cut from We Need To Talk, AJ reflects on his own journey with alcohol addiction, recovery and the turning point that forced him to confront the double life he was living. Louie shares the heartbreaking reality of growing up with a mother who struggled with alcoholism, the impact her death had on him and his family, and the grief that followed. (00:00) Intro (00:39) What's the Difference Between Alex and AJ? (05:07) AJ Recounts His Rock Bottom Moment With Alcohol (11:00) Louie Talks About His Mother's Alcoholism and the Impact of Her Death on Him and His Family Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jo Frost: “I Was Bullied!” Her Breaking Point, and the Parenting Emergency
Jo Frost, the world-renowned parenting expert and Supernanny, returns to We Need To Talk to discuss the parenting crisis, teen takeovers, phone addiction, bullying, cyberbullying, corporal punishment and the emotional needs children are missing today. After her first conversation reached millions around the world, Jo reflects on the overwhelming response, the families who felt seen by her words, and why she believes parents and children are facing one of the most urgent crises of our time. Jo opens up about being bullied for three years at school, the moment she finally fought back, and why she still feels conflicted about what happened. She and Paul also discuss Big Tech, cry-it-out sleep training and the emotional hunger so many children are living with today. Raw, practical and deeply emotional, Jo Frost returns for the conversation parents have been asking for. Jo Frost, We Need To Talk (00:00) Intro (01:42) Jo Frost on the Impact of Her First We Need To Talk Interview (06:07) Jo Frost Reacts to Viewer Comments From Supernanny (12:19) Jo Frost Explains Teen Takeovers and Modern Parenting Challenges (24:20) How Smartphones Affect Children and Teenagers (38:29) ID Mobile Ad (41:04) Cyberbullying Statistics and the Impact on Children (44:11) Jo Frost Opens Up About Being Bullied at School (54:19) Shopify Ad (55:36) Jo Frost on Corporal Punishment and Child Discipline (01:07:18) Parenting Advice Online and the Rise of Misinformation (01:12:55) Jo Frost Debunks the Cry It Out Method for Babies (01:15:59) Jo Frost Reunites With the Browns From Supernanny (01:17:59) The Browns Send Jo Frost a Surprise Video Message (01:19:55) Audience Questions for Jo Frost (01:36:08) The Most Important Conversation Parents Can Have With Their Child (01:39:49) Paul’s Takeaways This episode includes discussion of mental health. If you’re struggling with these themes or your own mental health, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Jo here: https://www.instagram.com/jofrost/ https://www.tiktok.com/@jofrost Sponsored by: iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ — your voice is more powerful than you think. https://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Who Is The REAL Rose McGowan? I Was Raised In A Cult
Rose McGowan opens up about her extraordinary life before the headlines, from growing up in Italy around Children of God to being sent to America as a child and trying to understand where she belonged. Rose reflects on her complicated relationship with her father, the absence of safety in her early life, changing her name, legally emancipating herself at 15, and finding her way into Hollywood. This is a rare, deeply personal conversation about identity, survival, fame, and the woman behind the public image. (00:00) Intro (01:00) Rose Breaks Down Her Childhood in Italy and the Children of God (07:01) Rose's Experience of Moving to America (11:44) Rose's Early Love of Performing (12:35) How and Why Rose Moved to Hollywood (14:38) Rose's First Experience on a Hollywood Set (15:41) Living With Her Mother in Hollywood (20:14) Why Rose Emancipated Herself at 15 Years Old (21:42) Rose's First Role in The Doom Generation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Jake Hall’s Ex On Sudden Death: “I Wish He Called Me” | Missé Beqiri
Missé Beqiri, model and former Real Housewives of Cheshire star, opens up following the recent passing of her former partner Jake Hall. In this deeply emotional conversation, Missé reflects on grief, love, motherhood, and the unanswered questions that still follow her. She speaks about the night everything changed, the guilt she continues to carry, and the reality of trying to stay strong for her daughter while grieving someone she once loved. Missé also opens up about the loss of her brother, the childhood wounds that shaped her need for validation, and the impact reality TV had on her marriage and family life. Raw, honest and deeply human, this is Missé like you’ve never seen her before. Missé Beqiri, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of grief. If you’re struggling with these themes or your own mental health, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Missé here: https://www.instagram.com/missebeqiri/ https://www.tiktok.com/@misse.beqiri (00:00) Intro (01:46) Paul and Misse Acknowledge the Passing of Jake Hall (04:57) Growing Up Albanian in Sweden (09:12) Complicated Relationship With Her Parents (14:47) Auditioning for Sweden's Next Top Model (22:35) The Dark Side of Modelling (28:48) Huel Ad (30:01) Missé’s Relationship With Her Brother (33:45) Missé Explains the Circumstances of Her Brother's Passing (40:52) Dating Anders Lindegaard (46:20) Marrying Anders Lindegaard (50:58) The Real Housewives of Cheshire and How It Led to Her Divorce From Anders (01:00:56) Meeting Jake Hall (01:08:36) Breaking Up With Jake (01:10:44) Jake's Struggle With Mental Health (01:15:33) Ladies of London (01:22:10) Grief And The Tragic Passing of Jake Hall (01:43:58) Paul Shows Missé a Photo of Jake and River (01:45:30) What Does the Future Hold for Missé? (01:49:59) Most Memorable Conversation (01:52:10) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Huel - Try Huel Lite Ramen - the new lighter instant noodle. Under 230 calories, 25g protein, ready in 5 minutes. Use code WNTT for £10 off at https://www.uk.huel.com/wntt New customers only. Minimum spend required. Offer valid until 30 days after June 30th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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"I Didn't Even Sign A Contract!" Georgia Harrison, Georgia Kousoulou & Chloe Sims Talk TOWIE
Paul looks back at The Only Way Is Essex with TOWIE cast members Georgia Harrison, Georgia Kousoulou and Chloe Sims. Together, they explore how the show turned Essex culture into one of Britain’s biggest reality TV phenomena, and what it was really like to be inside the show as it exploded. From glamorous first entrances and overnight fame to low pay, public scrutiny, press criticism and learning how to build a career beyond the cameras, this episode is an inside look at the reality TV show that changed their lives. We're Talking TOWIE (00:00) Intro (00:33) Georgia Explains Essex Culture to Paul (02:50) How Georgia Was Cast in TOWIE (03:55) What It Was Like Filming TOWIE in the Early Days (07:00) How Georgia Went From Side Character to Series Regular on TOWIE (08:55) How Georgia Handled Fame From Being on TOWIE (13:07) What Does Georgia Think Made Her Watchable on TOWIE? (16:04) How Does Chloe Look Back on Her Time on TOWIE? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Born With No Limbs: I Didn't Want To Be Their Poster Child! Briel Adams-Wheatley
Briel Adams-Wheatley, content creator and advocate, opens up about being born with no arms and no legs, being left in hospital by her birth mother, and growing up in a large Mormon family where her story was often treated as a miracle. She reflects on the pressure to be strong from a young age, being bullied, pushed harder than her siblings, and learning to perform happiness while privately struggling. Briel also shares how she was set up to inspire others through public speaking, even when the words she delivered were written by someone else. In this conversation, Briel speaks candidly about coming out, feeling used by the church, the conflict between faith and identity, and the moment she told her family: “You’re not God, you don’t get to damn me.” She also opens up about dating after trauma, finding safety with her husband Adam, and why they are getting married again after her transition. Honest, emotional and deeply human, this is Briel Adams-Wheatley like you’ve never seen her before. Briel Adams-Wheatley, We Need To Talk This conversation includes discussion of sexual assault. Please take care while watching. We’ve included links to support resources below: MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b The Survivor’s Trust: https://linkly.link/2kE8q Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Briel here: https://www.instagram.com/no_limbs_ https://www.tiktok.com/@no_limbs_ (00:00) Intro (01:46) Briel’s Birth and Adoption (04:39) Statistics Around Hand Heart Syndrome (10:49) Forced To Be Independent (14:26) Bullying At Home And School (21:29) “I Think I Like Boys” (25:42) Raised To Be The Mormon Miracle (28:17) The Good Parts of Briel’s Childhood (30:06) How Briel’s Parents Taught Her to Swim (32:34) How Briel Got Into Dancing (35:47) Briel’s Relationship With Her Mother Today (37:04) Paul Surprises Briel With A Letter (40:23) Huel Ad (41:34) Coming Out To Everyone At Once (47:18) Briel’s Experience Giving Motivational Speeches (54:07) How Makeup Changed Everything (58:43) Shopify Ad (59:54) Coming Out as Trans (01:06:01) Briel’s Dating History (01:10:47) The First Relationship That Felt Safe (01:18:25) Adam’s Letter To Briel (01:22:49) Why Briel Stepped Away From Mormonism (01:23:57) What Briel Wants Next (01:25:47) Being Trans In America Today (01:28:41) Advice For Anyone Questioning Their Gender Identity (01:30:57) Most Memorable Conversation (01:34:37) Paul’s Takeaways Huel - Try Huel Lite Ramen - the new lighter instant noodle. Under 230 calories, 25g protein, ready in 5 minutes.Use code WNTT for £10 off at https://www.uk.huel.com/wnttNew customers only. Minimum spend required. Offer valid until 30 days after June 30th. Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Pete Wicks On Male Loneliness "I Don't Feel Like I’m Enough”
In honour of Loneliness Awareness Week 2026, we explore loneliness, grief and men’s mental health through Pete Wicks’ honest conversation with Paul. Pete opens up about being an “outgoing loner,” losing his nan, learning to accept help, and the private battles people often hide behind a public image. This episode looks at why loneliness can still exist when you’re surrounded by people, and why admitting you need support can be the first step towards finding peace. Remember you're not alone. If you're looking for support, we’ve included links to resources below: Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2kE85 MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H (00:00) Intro (00:32) Paul and Pete Talk About the Loneliness Epidemic Among Men (04:38) What's on Pete's Horizon? (06:43) What Made Pete Realise He Needed Help? (11:20) The Loss of Pete's Grandmother and Its Effect on Him (14:01) Paul Shares His Affirmations for Pete Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Colton Underwood: I Thought The Bachelor Would Make Me Straight “I Prayed To God”
Colton Underwood became one of the most talked-about figures in reality TV after going from the NFL to The Bachelor, before publicly coming out as gay in one of the most scrutinised moments of his life. In this rare conversation, Colton reflects on growing up in football, faith and the Midwest, while privately knowing he was gay and trying desperately to hide it. He speaks about praying to be straight, building a fake public life, and the pressure of becoming “the virgin Bachelor” while living behind what he describes as a spiderweb of lies. Colton opens up about the rules, secrecy and fear that shaped his relationships, the NFL locker room culture that kept him in the closet, and the blackmail that pushed him toward finally coming out. He also reflects on his time on the US Traitors, the backlash that followed, and why he believes some viewers still misunderstand who he is now. Now a husband and father, Colton speaks about accountability, healing, and what it means to stop performing after years of hiding who he really was. Colton Underwood, We Need To Talk This conversation includes discussion of addiction and mental health. Please take care while watching. We’ve included links to support resources below: Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2kE85 MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Colton here: https://www.instagram.com/coltonunderwood/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@coltonunderwood (00:00) Intro (01:51) Early Life and Upbringing (07:14) Growing Up Gay in the Midwest (09:07) How Colton’s Parents' Divorce Affected Him (12:13) Navigating His Sexuality As A Teenager (24:28) Being Drafted into the NFL (29:21) Navigating Homophobia in American Football (37:03) Saily Ad (38:11) How Colton Got on The Bachelor (42:35) Why Colton Became Known as the Virgin Bachelor (45:46) How Colton Hid His Sexuality on The Bachelor (48:14) The Fence Jump That Changed The Bachelor (56:15) Backlash from The Traitors (01:02:39) ID Mobile Ad (01:04:29) Colton Opens Up About Xanax & Alcohol Abuse (01:06:56) Being Blackmailed And Coming Out (01:15:51) Paul Surprised Colton (01:17:22) How Colton Met His Husband Jordan (01:19:36) Going Through Surrogacy in the USA (01:24:29) Paul Surprises Colton With A Letter (01:25:44) Writing His New Book, Dear Bishop (01:31:56) Would Colton Do Another Reality TV Show? (01:33:14) Most Memorable Conversation (01:36:46) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ — your voice is more powerful than you think. https://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We Staged Our Paparazzi Photos And Split The Money! We're Talking Reality TV "Villains"
Spencer Pratt and Harry Jowsey pull back the curtain on the reality TV machine. Spencer reveals how The Hills changed television forever, the truth behind reality TV villains, staged paparazzi moments, and the strategy that made him one of the most talked-about figures of the 2000s. Harry shares what really happens behind the scenes of shows like Too Hot To Handle, how contestants chase screen time, the psychological impact of life in a reality TV bubble, and the tactics he used to turn a dating show into a global career. This is a candid look inside reality TV, fame, villain edits, producer manipulation, social media stardom, and what it really takes to stay relevant once the cameras stop rolling. We're Talking Reality TV "Villains" (00:00) Intro (00:27) How Real Was The Hills? (01:16) How Spencer Landed The Hills (03:56) The Peak of Spencer’s Fame (08:40) Spencer’s Reality TV Legacy Explained (10:26) Why The Hills Came to an End (11:15) Does Spencer Regret The Hills? (12:43) Spencer’s Role in Kardashian Success (16:46) What Harry Wanted From Too Hot to Handle (22:29) Why Harry Thrives on Reality TV (25:00) How Reality TV Supercharged Harry’s Fame Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Gypsy-Rose Blanchard: “No One Has Really Listened To Me… Until Now”
Gypsy-Rose Blanchard became one of the most recognisable women in modern true crime after the murder of her mother, Dee Dee Blanchard, and the alleged medical abuse that shocked the world. In this rare conversation, Gypsy reflects on the childhood she says was built on lies, the complex relationship with her mother, and the questions she believes were never asked. She opens up about wanting to be loved, the relationships that shaped her life, and the catastrophic dynamic with Nick Godejohn, who is now serving life in prison. Gypsy revisits the night Dee Dee was killed, and the thinking behind what happened. She also reflects on guilt, accountability and whether her prison sentence was fair for the crime that was committed. Now a mother herself, Gypsy reflects on the kind of parent she wants to become, the cycles she is determined to break, and how she begins to move forward when the world still knows you by your darkest chapter. Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, We Need To Talk This conversation includes discussion of child abuse, medical abuse, sexual assault and murder. Please take care while watching. We’ve included links to support resources below: NSPCC: https://linkly.link/2kE84 Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2kE85 MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b The Survivor’s Trust: https://linkly.link/2kE8q RAINN: https://linkly.link/2kE8h Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Gypsy-Rose here: https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta https://www.tiktok.com/@gypsyrose_blanchard727 (00:00) Intro (02:14) The Notoriety of Gypsy-Rose (03:10) Early Life (07:28) Gypsy's Mother's Mental Health Issues (12:04) Alleged Sexual Assault in Childhood (16:35) Why Gypsy-Rose Left the Family Home (18:11) The Medical Procedures Gypsy-Rose Underwent (33:36) Did Gypsy Feel Loved by Anyone as a Child? (39:36) Dating as a Teenager (50:38) How Gypsy Met Nick (01:03:50) Gypsy Reflects On The Night Her Mother Died (01:24:57) The Aftermath of the Murder and Court Proceedings (01:32:02) Time in Prison (01:35:24) How Gypsy Met Her First Husband in Prison (01:54:39) How Gypsy Adjusted to Life After Prison (02:05:30) The Birth of Gypsy's Daughter With Ken (02:15:51) Most Memorable Conversation (02:17:35) Paul's Takeaways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Little Mix & One Direction: What REALLY Happened Off Stage
Perrie Edwards and Lou Teasdale pull back the curtain on life inside two of the biggest pop groups of a generation. Perrie reflects on growing up in Little Mix, becoming one of the best-selling girl groups of all time, public heartbreak, pressure, and the sisterhood that carried them through. Lou shares what it was really like touring the world with One Direction, raising her daughter on the road, the fan chaos, the private jets, and why life behind the scenes was far less glamorous than it looked. This is a rare look inside Little Mix, One Direction, fame, friendship, and the real cost of growing up in the spotlight. (00:00) Intro (00:32) The Success of Little Mix (02:00) How Little Mix Shaped Perrie as a Woman (04:17) Why Perrie Still Sees Little Mix as Underdogs (08:02) Perrie’s Most Challenging Time in Little Mix (09:20) Finding Stability While Touring the World (12:23) How Lou Started Working With One Direction (14:14) The First One Direction Tour (14:57) How Fame Changed the Members of One Direction (17:10) The Best Moments of Life on Tour (19:34) The Wildest Things Fans Did to Meet One Direction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Tom Read Wilson Finally Tells His Story: “It Was A Constant Barrage Of Verbal Abuse”
Tom Read Wilson reflects on life after I’m A Celebrity and the private story behind the voice, warmth and eccentricity that made the nation fall in love with him. He opens up about growing up feeling othered, the secret that once felt like a ticking time bomb, and the anxiety that affected his relationship with food for many years. Tom also reflects on coming out, the sister who became his safe place, and why the jungle helped him lose his ego and feel truly seen. In a conversation shaped by nearly nine years of friendship, Paul and Tom look back on Celebs Go Dating, the moments that brought them close, and the bond that has quietly become one of the most important relationships in both of their lives. Funny, tender and unexpected, this is Tom Read Wilson on queerness, friendship, family, self-acceptance and learning to celebrate the parts of yourself the world once made you question. Tom Read Wilson, We Need To Talk A heads up this conversation includes discussion of mental health and eating disorders. We’ve included links to support resources below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Tom here: https://www.instagram.com/tomreadwilson (00:00) Intro (05:55) Tom’s Upbringing (07:25) Becoming Aware of Prejudice (08:51) Tom’s Identity in His Teens (16:18) How Tom Came Out (18:31) Paul Shows Tom a Photo of Him and His Siblings (23:46) Tom’s Struggle With Eating (30:43) Tom’s Career as an Actor (34:51) Tom Appearance on The Voice (40:57) Accusations About Tom’s Voice (45:51) Cast on Celebs Go Dating (48:41) Which Celebrities Stood Out to Tom on CGD? (51:08) Paul Shows Tom a Photo of Him and Gemma Collins (53:21) Paul’s Appreciation For Tom (55:57) Tom on His Romantic Life (58:00) Tom Has Made Paul Officially ‘Naughty’ (01:01:11) Why Tom Went on I’m a Celebrity (01:02:59) What Is the Environment Really Like on I’m a Celebrity? (01:04:33) What Tom Loved Most About I’m a Celebrity (01:08:46) Who Did Tom Get on With Most on I’m a Celebrity? (01:17:06) Tom’s Final Bushtucker Trial (01:23:18) Surprise Letter From Campmate Ruby Wax (01:26:20) Tom’s Relationship With Paul’s Family (01:28:11) Tom’s Talent for Accents (01:37:26) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ - your voice is more powerful than you thinkhttps://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We're Talking Parenting Tips with Jo Frost
Jo Frost, known to millions as Supernanny, joins us for an honest conversation about modern parenting, discipline, screen time and the pressure families are carrying today. Jo reflects on why children need boundaries as much as love, why parents must take responsibility for the devices they put in their children’s hands, and how discipline can be firm without becoming fear-based. She speaks openly about timeouts, smacking, emotional safety, social media, racism, gun violence and the anxiety many parents feel trying to raise children in an increasingly complicated world. Jo also shares why the most important work starts with conversation: between parents, partners and children. We’re Talking Parenting (00:00) Intro (00:35) Paul Asks Jo Questions from the Suggestion Box (01:39) Jo's Thoughts on Navigating Screen Time with Children (05:12) The Philosophy Behind the 'Naughty Step' (09:56) Paul and Jo's Thoughts on Spanking (11:34) What Would Jo Like to Say to the Supernanny Haters? (12:53) What is the Difference Between Discipline in the UK Versus the US? (17:11) Paul and Jo Discuss the Importance of Talking with Your Partner About Parenting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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ArrDee on Hidden Addiction and Becoming A Dad
ArrDee reflects on the story behind Oliver Twist, Body and his rise as one of the UK’s most recognisable young rappers. He opens up about growing up in Brighton, being raised by his mum, and the complicated relationship with his father that shaped his need for attention, fame and approval. ArrDee shares how music became his way of expressing pain, why he first hid behind the “cheeky” persona, and what really happened when his career exploded during lockdown. He also speaks candidly about the darker side of early fame, from spending his first major advance to partying, addiction, ketamine, alcohol and the moments where he was trying to numb himself behind the success. ArrDee reflects on the guilt he carries around his brother’s psychosis, the pressure of being labelled an industry plant, and how becoming a father has changed the way he sees himself. From music and addiction to fame, family and fatherhood, this is ArrDee on the boy behind the bravado, and the man he is trying to become. ArrDee, We Need To Talk This conversation includes discussion of addiction and mental health. Please watch with care. Support resources are linked below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow ArrDee here: https://www.instagram.com/arrdeegram/ https://www.tiktok.com/@arrdeetik (00:00) Intro (03:33) How ArrDee’s Name Was Born (04:46) Growing Up in Brighton (06:12) ArrDee’s Relationship With His Mum (07:59) Growing Up Without His Father (14:52) The First Song ArrDee Wrote (17:43) The Song That Changed Everything (20:36) How ArrDee Signed His First Record Deal (26:09) What ArrDee Did With His First Record Deal Money (28:02) The Story Behind ArrDee’s Feature on “Body” (33:24) How ArrDee Wrote “Oliver Twist” (35:08) ArrDee Reads a Letter From His Mum (39:53) ID Mobile Ad (41:03) How Fame at 19 Changed ArrDee (44:57) Making “Oliver Twist” Music Video (50:34) Did ArrDee Struggle With Addiction? (52:19) ArrDee Addresses Industry Plant Accusations (54:35) Being a White Rapper in the Music Industry (01:01:58) ID Mobile Ad (01:04:26) ArrDee’s First Time Meeting His Dad (01:24:32) Why ArrDee Became an Independent Artist (01:34:09) ArrDee’s Relationship With His Brother (01:40:16) Fatherhood and Relationship With Ocean (01:46:05) Fatherhood and Sobriety (01:49:38) ArrDee Receives Letter From Ocean (01:53:31) Most Memorable Conversation (01:57:05) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ - your voice is more powerful than you thinkhttps://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I Had £60 Left When I Met The Love Of My Life: We’re Talking Love Stories
Lorna Luxe opens up about the love story she shared with her late husband, John - from meeting him by chance on a night out in Brighton to marrying him just a year and a half later. Lorna reflects on their 21-year age gap, why she trusted him instantly, the childhood experiences that shaped what she needed from love, and the moment she realised this relationship felt different to anything she had known before. She speaks honestly about marriage, loyalty, emotional safety, grief, and why she would choose the same love story all over again. We're Talking: Love Stories (00:00) Intro (00:32) How Lorna and John First Met (03:02) How Their Relationship Quickly Developed (08:38) What Friends and Family Really Thought About the Relationship (10:32) The Truth About Age-Gap Relationships (12:09) Inside Lorna and John’s Marriage (16:39) The ‘Father Hunger’ Theory Explained Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Akon: The Truth About My Multiple Wives & The Real Cost of Fame
Akon reflects on the life behind some of the biggest songs of the 2000s, and the choices, controversies and turning points that shaped him long before global fame. He opens up about growing up between Senegal and the US, the criminal world he entered before music, and the prison sentence that he believes saved his life. Akon shares how ‘Locked Up’ began behind bars, why music became his way out, and how he learned to turn pain, business instinct and controversy into worldwide success. The conversation also explores his views on polyamory, having multiple wives, and why he believes honesty, rules and communication are essential in that dynamic. He also reflects on his friendship with Michael Jackson, the side of him the public rarely saw, and the questions he still has about his passing. Akon looks back on the moments that made him, the mistakes that nearly ended him, and the legacy he is still trying to build. Akon, We Need To Talk Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Akon here: https://www.instagram.com/akon/ https://www.tiktok.com/@akon (00:00) Intro (01:38) Akon Addresses The Hamster Ball (06:29) Touring With Ne-Yo (07:52) Why Akon’s Audience Isn’t Who You’d Expect (15:11) Opening The Door For Artists Like Wizkid (20:15) Every Song Had To Be Ringtone Friendly (22:26) Mr Lonely Changed Everything (26:53) The Blackout That Changed Akon’s Purpose (30:53) ID Mobile Ad (33:06) Akon’s Relationship With Michael Jackson (45:20) Growing Up Between Senegal And America (48:13) Selling Stolen Cars To Fund Music Career (55:50) How Jail Changed Akon’s Life Forever (01:04:58) Huel Ad (01:06:06) What Still Pains Akon Today? (01:08:12) “I Say Ignorant Things On Purpose” (01:11:32) What Is Akon’s Real Name? (01:16:43) Akon Explains His Polyamorous Life (01:32:22) Akon Talks About His New Album (01:36:46) Most Memorable Conversation (01:42:32) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ - your voice is more powerful than you thinkhttps://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Huel - http://Huel.com/WNTT with code WNTT for £10 off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Quiet Struggles We Carry Alone
For Mental Health Awareness Week, we speak with Charlie Mackesy about anxiety, grief, loneliness and the quiet struggles so many of us carry alone. The bestselling author of The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse speaks openly about anxiety attacks, loss, vulnerability, male loneliness and why asking for help matters. In this open and honest conversation, Charlie reflects on the dark periods that shaped him, the friends he has lost, and the inner critic so many of us live with. He also shares the practical tools that helped him through anxiety, and why connection, honesty and feeling loved matter more than perfection. We're Talking Mental Health If you’re struggling, you don’t have to face it alone. We’ve included support charities below: Samaritans - call on 116 123 or visit https://g2ul0.app.link/xghDmmYV4Wb Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM): https://g2ul0.app.link/npaQKXUV4Wb (00:00) Intro (00:42) Charlie Breaks Down the Darkest Period of His Life (04:36) How Paul and Charlie Actually Deal With Anxiety (12:48) Charlie’s ADHD Diagnosis and What It Changed (14:39) How Drawing Became Charlie’s Escape (16:12) Paul and Charlie on Grief and What Actually Helps (20:39) Charlie on the Loneliness Epidemic and Why It’s Growing (23:17) How to Silence Your Inner Critic and Build Gratitude Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Michelle Heaton: The Truth About Popstars & My Hidden Addictions “I Couldn’t Stop”
Michelle Heaton reflects on the reality of 2000s fame, from competing on Popstars to forming Liberty X and stepping into a pop world that was often chaotic and intense. She opens up about what was really happening behind the headlines: the pressure to look a certain way, the shame she carried around her body, and the early patterns of addiction that followed her long before she could name them.Michelle speaks candidly about alcohol and drug addiction, hiding the truth from her husband and children, and the painful moments where part of her wanted to be caught. Michelle also reflects on the friends who tried to help, the conversation with Katie Price that helped lead her to rehab, and the impact her addiction had on her marriage, motherhood and sense of self.Michelle also shares the emotional toll of her BRCA2 diagnosis, preventative double mastectomy and early hysterectomy, and what it meant to go through menopause in her early 30s while losing her sense of identity.Now five years sober, this is a conversation about fame, shame, survival, family, recovery and learning to give yourself grace.Michelle Heaton, We Need To Talk This conversation includes discussion of suicide, addiction and eating disorders. Please watch with care. Support resources are linked below: Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Beat Eating Disorders https://linkly.link/2dx8y Follow us here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Michelle here: https://www.instagram.com/wonderwomanshel/ https://www.tiktok.com/@michelleheatonofficial (00:00) Intro (01:26) What Makes Someone a Geordie? (06:28) Body Image Struggles (08:44) Being Cast on Popstars (12:53) Going Back to a Normal Job After Popstars (16:47) How Liberty X Was Formed (23:53) Hear’Say vs Liberty X (27:04) The Highs & Lows of Life in Liberty X (35:02) Paul Surprises Michelle With a Letter (37:40) ID Mobile Ad (38:53) Relationship With the Press (42:00) Relationship With Andy Scott-Lee (47:58) ID Mobile Ad (50:45) First Experiences With Substance Abuse (56:10) Addiction to Alcohol and Binge Eating (01:04:33) Impact of Hysterectomy (01:11:55) Hiding Addiction From Everyone (01:15:19) How Addiction Affected Her Marriage (01:28:53) How Michelle Eventually Went to Rehab (01:40:24) The Reality of Mastectomies & Hysterectomies (01:57:11) Surprise Message From Her Children (01:58:14) Paul Reads a Letter From Michelle’s Husband (02:01:34) Most Memorable Conversation (02:06:32) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: iD Mobile: Ditch the texts and ‘Make it a Call’ - your voice is more powerful than you think: https://www.idmobile.co.uk/make-it-a-call?affiliate=marketing%7CYouTube_Display%7CMakeItACall_Brand&utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=MakeItACall&utm_content=Brand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What Happens When You Get Famous Young
AJ McLean and Cody Simpson open up about the darker side of the music industry, from exploitation and manipulation behind the scenes to the personal fallout of becoming famous too young. AJ reflects on Lou Pearlman, the betrayal at the heart of the Backstreet Boys’ rise, and what it cost the band to break free, while Cody shares how early fame, unlimited access and pressure on a young brain pushed him into a period of partying, substance abuse and psychosis. Together, their stories reveal the real cost of fame when success comes before you’re ready for it. We're Talking The Cost of Fame This conversation includes discussion of addiction and mental health. We've included support charities below: MIND: https://g2ul0.app.link/gbuRaxjM3Nb Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM): https://g2ul0.app.link/npaQKXUV4Wb (00:00) Intro (00:37) Lou Perlman’s Hold on the Backstreet Boys (02:50) The Real Dynamic Between the Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC (04:45) What Is Lou Perlman’s Legacy? (09:14) Cody Reflects on the Dark Side of Fame at a Young Age (16:42) Cody Opens Up About the Darkest Period of His Pop Career Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Divorce Lawyer Reveals Why Marriages Really Fail
James Sexton is one of the world’s most famous divorce lawyers, and in this conversation he explains what divorce, cheating, marriage and prenups really look like behind closed doors. He speaks openly about why marriages fail, why every couple already has a prenup, and why most people wait too long to understand what they are really signing up for. James also shares what it means to be a high-conflict divorce attorney, why he calls himself “a weapon in court”, and how he protects clients through some of the most painful moments of their lives. He reflects on infidelity, custody battles, domestic abuse cases, and the brutal psychology of what really happens when love turns into war. But this conversation is also about love. James explains why marriage should be harder to get into and easier to leave, why disconnection starts long before divorce, and why the real work of a relationship is choosing each other again and again. James Sexton, We Need To Talk Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow James here:https://www.instagram.com/nycdivorcelawyer/ https://www.tiktok.com/@nycdivorce (00:00) Intro (02:03) The World’s Most Famous Divorce Lawyer (03:14) “I Hope Your Marriage Ends in Death” (06:30) Should I Get A Prenup? (10:54) The Patriarchal History of Marriage (14:42) James’ Definition of Divorce (22:18) James Opens Up About His Own Divorce (24:38) Representing Clients Who’ve Done Terrible Things (27:25) How to Know If a Couple Should Divorce (33:31) Shopify AD (34:42) How and When to Start the Divorce Conversation (39:45) When Should You Speak to a Divorce Lawyer? (44:22) Three Things to Consider Before Getting Married (51:43) James’ Most Memorable Case (55:39) The Main Reason for Divorce (57:16) Likelihood of Marrying After Divorce (01:03:47) Paul and James on Love and Relationships (01:14:41) Why Checking In With Your Partner Matters (01:20:16) Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce (01:37:48) Most Memorable Conversation (01:45:47) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What No One Tells You About Becoming A Mother
Motherhood can feel beautiful, overwhelming and deeply isolating all at once. In this episode of We’re Talking, Cher Lloyd, Georgia Kousoulou and Mel Robbins open up about the side of motherhood no one talks about enough, from postnatal depression and loneliness to shame, identity loss and the pressure to keep going when you don’t feel like yourself. From not bonding with a baby straight away to feeling alone in a house full of people, this is an honest conversation about the hidden struggle so many new mothers face. It is a reminder that motherhood does not always feel the way you expected, and that asking for help can change everything. If anything in this episode brings up difficult feelings, there is support available. We’ve included links below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b (00:00) Intro (00:33) How Cher Balanced Motherhood With Life as a Popstar (02:25) Cher Opens Up About Postnatal Depression (07:10) How Motherhood Changed Georgia’s Life (09:33) The Reality of Postnatal Depression by the Numbers (10:20) Georgia Reveals the Symptoms She Faced (15:27) Why Postnatal Depression Needs to Be Normalised (17:59) Filming a TV Show While Struggling With Postnatal Depression (19:27) An Emotional Message From Mel’s Daughter (21:35) Mel Gets Honest About Motherhood and Marriage (24:02) Mel’s Advice to Parents Supporting Big Dreams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Real Housewives' PK: “I Knew It Was Over” The Truth About My Marriage & The Show
Paul Kemsley, music manager and former Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member, opens up about what really happened behind the headlines, why protecting his children matters more than defending himself publicly, and how he is trying to rebuild his life after divorce, reality TV, and public scrutiny. He reflects on life inside one of the biggest reality television franchises in the world, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and the impact it had on his marriage, his family, and his identity. PK shares what it felt like watching private pain become public entertainment, why he believes reality TV can create stories that are not always true, and why he now wants to step away from the noise. Paul also shares the story behind his rise in business, from growing up in North London and chasing money, status, and success, to building a fortune, losing control, and going bankrupt in public. He reflects on ambition, ego, failure, and the moments that forced him to confront who he had become. He opens up about managing Boy George, rebuilding after public setbacks, giving up alcohol, and the clarity that came when he stopped blaming everything around him. PK reflects on fatherhood, accountability, divorce, and why, after losing so much, he still believes in getting back up. Paul Kemsley, We Need To Talk Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Paul here:https://www.instagram.com/paul_kemsley_pk/ (00:00) Intro (01:46) Why PK Is Sharing His Story Now (02:41) PK’s Upbringing in 1970s Stanmore (04:14) PK’s Experience of Antisemitism (05:57) How PK Built His Early Career and Rock (12:31) What Drove PK’s Business Ambitions (13:49) PK’s Relationship With Sir Alan Sugar (15:54) The 2008 Crash and the Collapse of Rock (21:18) Saily Ad (22:40) PK on His Public Divorce From Dorit (28:21) Why PK Joined The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (43:36) PK’s Darkest Moment on RHOBH (46:10) The Emotional Toll of Online Backlash (51:32) Why PK Bought the New York Cosmos (54:03) The Story Behind Signing Pelé (56:07) How PK Ended Up Managing Boy George (01:00:28) PK Reads a Letter From Boy George (01:05:40) Most Memorable Conversation (01:08:24) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Man Behind Attachment Styles Explains Secure Love
What does secure love actually look like? Dr Amir Levine explores what it really means to build a relationship that feels safe, flexible and deeply connected. Amir goes beyond the labels of anxious, avoidant and secure to explain how security is created in everyday relationships. In the final part of this three-part series, Amir challenges one of the most debated ideas in modern relationships, shares why even secure people can shift depending on who they’re with, and reveals how a secure partner can help reshape the way we see the world. We’re Talking Attachment Styles with Dr Amir Levine (Part Three) Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Take the We Need To Talk quiz to discover your attachment style and get personalised episode recommendations: https://linkly.link/2g3t4 Support Amir here: Website: https://linkly.link/2g2xk My Attachment Topography Calculator: https://linkly.link/2g2xl Secure at Waterstones https://linkly.link/2g8vz Enter 'Secure26' for 25% off (00:00) Intro (01:43) Dr Amir Levine Breaks Down Why Relationships Don’t Need Boundaries (04:50) Can One Shift From a Secure Attachment to an Unsecure One? (07:08) Dr Amir Levine Describes His Childhood Environment (09:39) Saily Ad (10:48) How Did Dr Amir Levine's Upbringing Affect the Man He Is Today? (11:48) What Is Dr Amir's Attachment Style to the Different People in His Life? (14:12) What Is the Best Strategy as a Parent to Raise a Secure Child? (16:37) Most Memorable Conversation (18:33) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dami Hope Exclusive On Break Up with Indiyah “Her Story Didn’t Add Up”
Love Island star Dami Hope gives his first sit-down interview as he speaks openly about Love Island, Indiyah Polack and the cheating allegations involving Inside UK star Marlon Garcia. He also reflects on heartbreak, grief, masculinity and growing up Nigerian in Ireland. In this conversation, Dami revisits what really happened in the villa, why he felt misunderstood after Love Island, and how the villain narrative followed him long after the show ended. He also opens up about his relationship with Indiyah, the sudden breakup that followed, and the betrayal he says changed everything. Dami shares the painful reality of watching the viral video alongside his friends and how he’s navigated the public fallout. Dami also speaks about losing his father, the pressure of stepping up for his family, and how grief reshaped the way he sees himself. From identity and race to fashion, friendship and self-expression, he explains why he is finally ready to tell his side. Dami Hope, We Need To Talk This episode includes discussion of grief. If you’re struggling with these themes or your own mental health, remember you’re not alone. You can find help and resources at the links below: CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Dami here: https://www.instagram.com/damihope/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@damihope (00:00) Intro (03:09) Moving to Ireland: Dami’s Childhood Experience (08:31) Being Black in Late-90s Ireland (10:10) Why Dami Changed His Name as a Teenager (14:56) From Science to Microbiology: Dami’s Early Career (17:06) How and Why Dami Applied for Love Island (23:27) Who Caught Dami’s Eye First in the Villa? (28:20) Dami’s Experience of Casa Amor (33:27) Rekindling With Indiyah After Casa Amor (35:09) Saily Ad (36:16) What Didn’t Make the Edit on Love Island? (38:10) Did Dami Fall in Love With Indiyah in the Villa? (41:22) When Dami and Indiyah Became a Real Couple (45:02) How Much Dami Earned From Brand Deals After the Villa (48:56) What Dami Loved About Indiyah (58:25) Why Dami and Indiyah Broke Up (01:09:15) Dami’s Response to Online Haters (01:09:49) Do Dami and Indiyah Still Speak? (01:10:21) Does Dami Watch Inside UK? (01:11:35) Is Dami Dating Now? (01:15:25) Dami’s Experience of Bullying and Violence at School (01:26:30) How Dami’s Father’s Passing Affected Him (01:34:45) Dami Reads a Letter From His Best Friend (01:37:53) What Healthy Masculinity Looks Like (01:40:14) Dami’s Love of Fashion and Its Evolution (01:47:27) Dami on His Accent and Code-Switching (01:52:02) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Can Anxious People Date Avoidants? We're Talking Attachment Styles
Dr. Amir Levine dives deeper into the dynamics of attachment styles in relationships. He explains why anxious and avoidant individuals often find themselves stuck in a never-ending cycle, and how these patterns can impact the way we choose and connect with romantic partners. Amir offers insightful tools to help both anxious and avoidant types navigate their relationships more effectively, and shares how being with a secure partner can change the way we experience love. With practical advice and eye-opening truths, this episode uncovers the path to breaking free from destructive patterns and creating healthier, more secure connections. We’re Talking Attachment Styles with Dr. Amir Levine (Part Two) Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Take the We Need To Talk quiz to discover your attachment style and get personalised episode recommendations: https://linkly.link/2g3t4 Support Amir here: Website: https://linkly.link/2g2xk My Attachment Topography Calculator: https://linkly.link/2g2xl Secure at Waterstones https://linkly.link/2g8vz Enter 'Secure26' for 25% off (00:00) Intro (01:09) What Do Different Attachment Styles Look for in a Partner? (05:01) What Is the Gender Split on the Various Attachment Styles? (06:51) Is It a Problem Being in a Relationship With Someone Who Has the Same Attachment Style as You? (09:05) Dr Amir’s Tools for Changing Your Brain and Attachment Styles (13:41) Not Texting Back and Being Avoidant With Your Friends (15:00) The Myths Surrounding Attachment Styles (17:14) Having Different Attachment Styles With Various People in Your Life (19:29) Saily Ad (20:39) How Does Social Media Affect Attachment Styles? (23:03) Social Exclusion and Its Effect on the Brain (30:06) How to Set Expectations in Your Relationships Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Kathy Griffin: This Joke Made Me The Most Hated Woman in America
Kathy Griffin cancelled, controversy, losing everything overnight, and rebuilding after 7 years out of work. Kathy opens up about what really happened behind the headlines, why she regrets apologising, and how she survived losing her career, friendships, and identity overnight. Kathy reflects on the fallout that followed, from being investigated and publicly condemned to losing 75% of her friends. She speaks about the anxiety that came with it, the pressure of being constantly judged, and why she believes the narrative around her story is only now starting to change. Kathy also shares her journey into Hollywood, breaking through later than most and facing years of rejection about her looks and worth. From being told she wasn’t “pretty enough” to building a career on her own terms, she explains how she carved out success in an industry that often pushed her out. She opens up about addiction, recovery, and the period where everything caught up with her. Kathy reflects on rebuilding her life, finding new friendships, and why she continues to speak out despite the risk of backlash. Kathy Griffin, We Need To Talk This episode contains discussion of addiction and suicide. We’ve included links to support charities below: Samaritans: https://linkly.link/2dx7Z CALM: https://linkly.link/2dx8H MIND: https://linkly.link/2dx8b Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Kathy here: https://www.instagram.com/kathygriffin/ https://www.tiktok.com/@kathygriffin Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ 00:00 Intro02:16 Kathy’s Childhood in 1960s Chicago 03:52 Racial Tensions in 1960s Chicago 06:23 Kathy’s Relationship With Her Parents 12:07 The Beginnings of Kathy’s Comedy in School 15:13 How Kathy Convinced Her Parents to Move to LA 18:44 Kathy and Her Family’s First Years in LA 21:56 The Beginnings of Kathy’s Acting Career in LA 26:25 Kathy’s Early Auditions and Break on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 32:52 Kathy’s Relationship With Quentin Tarantino 37:54 Suddenly Susan and Kathy’s First HBO Special 53:55 Statistics on Gender and Comedy 59:05 Saily Ad 01:00:30 The Context Behind Kathy’s Relationship With Donald Trump 01:06:09 The Story Behind ‘That Photo’ 01:09:52 The Media Backlash and Kathy’s ‘Cancellation’ 01:15:16 How the Backlash Affected Kathy’s Mental Health 01:23:04 Paul Surprises Kathy With A Letter 01:25:19 How Kathy Bounced Back 01:31:17 Kathy Breaks Down Her Relationship History 01:36:23 Kathy’s Self-Esteem and Cosmetic Procedures 01:40:54 Kathy on Her Relationships With Famous Friends 01:43:44 Most Memorable Conversation 01:45:52 Paul’s Takeaways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Is Your Attachment Style Sabotaging Your Relationships? Dr Amir Levine Explains How to Rewire It
Anxious, avoidant or secure? Dr Amir Levine breaks down the science of attachment styles and why the way we connect in relationships shapes our emotional world. Dr. Amir Levine is a psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and bestselling author of Attached and new book Secure, whose work has transformed how millions understand attachment styles and relationships. In the first of a three-part series, Amir explains how anxious, avoidant, and secure patterns show up in adulthood, and how understanding them can completely change the way you experience love. He shares the story behind his best-selling book and how a personal breakup led him to uncover research that had been hidden in academic papers for decades. Amir also challenges one of the biggest myths in psychology, explaining why your childhood accounts for less than 10% of your adult attachment style. We’re Talking Attachment Styles with Dr Amir Levine (Part One) Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Take the We Need To Talk quiz to discover your attachment style and get personalised episode recommendations: https://linkly.link/2g3t4 Support Amir here: Website: https://linkly.link/2g2xk My Attachment Topography Calculator: https://linkly.link/2g2xl Secure at Waterstones https://linkly.link/2g8vz Enter 'Secure26' for 25% off (00:00) Intro (01:04) Paul Fanboys Over Dr Amir’s Work (02:32) What Are Attachment Styles? (04:01) The International Success of *Attached* (04:55) Dr Amir Breaks Down the Three Main Attachment Styles (08:30) How Do Attachment Styles Originate? (12:13) How Attachment Styles Impact Our Lives (14:02) Can We Change Our Attachment Styles? (17:00) Saily Ad (18:10) Dr Amir Explains the “My Attachment Topography Calculator” Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Kerry Katona: I’ve Not Told Anyone This… What Really Happened During The Show
Kerry Katona returns to We Need To Talk with Paolo, opening up about finding love when she least expected it, the anxiety she was battling, and the heartbreak that ran alongside her happiest moments. She speaks candidly about her relationship with Paolo, from meeting up after the cameras stopped rolling to blending their families and talking seriously about marriage. Kerry and Paolo also reflect on falling pregnant early in their relationship, the miscarriages they went through together, and what that loss brought up for them both. Kerry also speaks honestly about going on tour with Katie Price, why everyone told her not to do it, and the 20-year friendship that still connects them despite how different they are. She reflects on the emotional toll of sharing so much on stage, the health scare that left her in hospital, and why her children’s approval means more to her than anything else. Kerry Katona, We Need To Talk (again) This episode contains discussion of miscarriage. We’ve included links to support charities below: Sands: https://linkly.link/2fej3 Tommy’s: https://linkly.link/2feiZ Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Kerry & Paolo here: https://www.instagram.com/kerrykatona7 https://www.tiktok.com/@official.kerrykatona https://www.instagram.com/paolomargaglione1/ https://www.tiktok.com/@margafitness_ Abba Mia Tour: https://www.d3productions.co.uk/abba-mia (00:00) Intro (00:58) Kerry is Back! (02:32) The Impact of Kerry’s First Appearance on We Need To Talk (11:49) Kerry’s Mindset Going into Appearing on Celebs Go Dating (15:52) What Was It About Paolo That First Appealed to Kerry? (17:18) How Kerry and Paolo’s Relationship Developed (20:26) How Did Kerry and Paolo Deal With the Age Gap? (22:26) Kerry’s Struggle With Anxiety Over The Past Year (25:52) Kerry’s Health Scare (27:51) The Emotional Impact of Kerry’s Tour with Katie Price (31:57) Kerry and Paolo’s Interdependent Relationship (35:24) Would Kerry Tour With Katie Price Again? (37:07) The History of Kerry and Katie’s Friendship (42:52) Kerry’s On Parasocial Relationships (48:20) Paul Surprises Kerry With A Letter From Home (54:42) Shopify Ad (55:46) Paolo Joins Paul and Kerry (01:00:09) What Has the Media’s Reception Been Like About Their Relationship? (01:04:34) Paul Shows Kerry and Paolo a Family Photo (01:06:32) How Do Kerry and Paolo Manage Their Blended Family? (01:08:43) How Does Paolo Deal With the Parasocial Relationship Fans Have With Kerry? (01:13:41) Kerry and Paolo Address ‘That Photo’ With Katie Price in Dubai (01:14:57) Are Kerry and Paolo Moving to Spain? (01:17:27) What Does Paolo Love About Kerry? (01:21:21) Will Kerry and Paolo Get Married? (01:24:00) Do Kerry and Paolo Want to Have Children Together? (01:30:43) Most Memorable Conversation (01:34:03) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I Always Knew I Was Autistic - Talia Mar On Late Diagnosis At 24
Talia Mar shares her journey with autism from feeling different as a child to being diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder at 24. She opens up about bullying, masking, sensory overwhelm, and the pressure of trying to appear confident while struggling internally. Talia also reflects on why autism in women is so often missed, how music became her outlet, and the relief that came with finally understanding herself. This conversation is an honest look at neurodivergence, identity and embracing the way your mind works. We’re Talking Autism (00:00) Intro (00:35) Talia Explains Why She Thinks She Was Bullied at School (02:28) Talia on Masking and Dealing With Bullying at School (03:27) What Advice Would Talia Give Her Younger Self? (04:44) The Message Behind Talia’s Music (07:53) Talia’s Autism Diagnosis at 24 (08:45) When Talia First Thought She Had Autism (11:53) Saily Ad (13:05) Why Talia Wasn’t Diagnosed Earlier (15:28) Statistics Around Autism in Women (16:38) How Life Might Have Been Different With an Earlier Diagnosis (18:07) How Talia’s Parents Reacted to Her Diagnosis (20:11) Would Talia Encourage Others to Seek a Diagnosis? (20:56) How Miniminter Reacted to Talia’s Autism Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Chloe Sims: I Had To Be "Desperately Single" To Get Booked... How Reality TV Broke Me
The Only Way Is Essex star Chloe Sims reveals the truth about TOWIE, fame, and the relationship she says took years of her life. She opens up about growing up without her biological mum, being bullied for her looks, and why part of her still feels like that young girl today. Chloe speaks honestly about the man she kept going back to, why she apologised for things she didn't do, and the moment she finally realised he was never going to change. She also shares what reality TV was really like behind the scenes. From rehearsing arguments to shaking with nerves, Chloe explains how the pressure to perform affected her mental health and why she was never the “Ice Queen” people believed she was. Chloe also reflects on motherhood and the lengths she went to protect her daughter from the spotlight. She speaks about filming House of Sims with her siblings, why making the show nearly broke her, and what starting again in America has taught her about love, family and self-worth. Chloe Sims, We Need To Talk Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Chloe here: https://www.instagram.com/chloesims https://www.tiktok.com/@misschloesims (00:00) Intro (01:46) Paul Tells the Story of How He and Chloe First Met (05:53) Chloe’s Upbringing in East London and Essex (07:45) Chloe’s Family Situation Growing Up (13:39) How Moving From East London to School in Essex Affected Chloe (18:48) Paul Shows Chloe a Childhood Photo of Her and Joey (20:08) How Joey’s Mother’s Death Affected Chloe (28:05) Chloe’s Biggest Insecurity During Adolescence (30:38) Chloe’s Life After School and a Toxic Relationship (38:43) What Chloe Is Looking for in a Partner (41:12) Saily Ad (42:20) How Chloe Was Cast in TOWIE (51:57) How Chloe’s Life Changed After Joining TOWIE (57:49) Chloe’s Darkest Moment on TOWIE (01:06:26) Chloe’s Experience on Celebs Go Dating (01:09:01) How Chloe Is Pigeonholed in the Reality TV Industry (01:11:53) Chloe’s Current Dating Life and What She Wants in a Partner (01:18:19) Chloe’s Experience of Perimenopause (01:21:19) Chloe Asks Paul for Dating Advice During Perimenopause (01:24:48) Paul Reads Chloe a Letter From a TV Industry Insider (01:32:59) Paul Reads Chloe a Letter From Her Brother Charlie (01:36:53) How Chloe Has Navigated the Media and Her Daughter Maddie (01:40:16) The Biggest Lesson Chloe Has Learned From Motherhood (01:41:35) Chloe Recounts Her Experience With Cosmetic Surgery (01:45:08) Will Chloe Have Any More Cosmetic Procedures? (01:46:59) Most Memorable Conversation (01:49:17) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What REALLY Happened Inside The Pussycat Dolls?
Ashley Roberts shares how a first audition changed everything, taking her from performing at the Viper Room to becoming part of one of the biggest girl groups in the world. She opens up about the early buzz around the group to performing alongside Rihanna and Lady Gaga. Ashley also reflects on the structure of the group, with Nicole as the lead singer, the pressure and pace of sudden fame, and the physical and emotional toll that came with life inside such an iconic act. We're Talking The Pussycat Dolls Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ (00:00) Intro (00:38) Ashley Shares How She Joined the Pussycat Dolls (03:27) From Viper Room Dance Act to Global Pop Group (04:34) The Origins and Success of “Don’t Cha” (07:07) The Sheer Scale of Pussycat Dolls’ Success (08:18) Ashley’s Fondest Memory at the Height of Their Success (09:32) Saily Ad (11:22) The Structure of the Pussycat Dolls as a Group (13:55) Why the Pussycat Dolls Didn’t Reform Post-Covid (15:18) The Financial Success of the Pussycat Dolls (17:29) The Demanding Touring Schedule and Its Impact on Ashley (20:30) Paul Shows Ashley the Debut Pussycat Dolls Album Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Love On The Spectrum's Abbey Reveals She Wanted A Boyfriend To Feel “Normal”
Abbey Romeo became one of the most recognisable faces on Netflix’s Love on the Spectrum, but her journey to finding love, identity and a voice was anything but simple. In this conversation, Abbey opens up about growing up with autism, the reality of feeling isolated and misunderstood, and what life was really like before the show. Abbey shares what autism feels like from the inside, describing it as living between two worlds, while Abbey’s mum Christine reflects on the challenges of raising a child in a system she believes is often broken. They speak honestly about the early years, from communication struggles and emotional breakthroughs to the moment Abbey first understood her diagnosis and how that shaped her identity. Christine also shares the unseen side of parenting, the survival mode, the lack of support, and the turning points that slowly gave them hope. Abbey also reflects on finding love with her boyfriend David, what their relationship means to her, and the quiet ways he makes her feel safe, understood and seen. From building a successful hat business to discovering her voice through music, Abbey demonstrates how purpose, creativity and connection have transformed her life and why representation matters more than ever. Abbey Romeo, We Need To Talk (00:00) Intro (01:50) The Success of Love on the Spectrum (02:39) How Abbey Felt When She First Joined the Show (03:46) Why Hannah Montana Is Important To Abbey (04:50) Abbey and Christine on Becoming Public Figures (06:04) Why Christine Didn't Think Abbey Belonged On The Show (08:17) Abbey’s Emotional Connection to Mermaids (10:22) Abbey Gifts Paul One of Her Hats (12:32) When Abbey Discovered She Was Autistic (14:12) Abbey’s Experiences Across Different Schools (17:59) Christine’s View on the Origins of Autism (18:45) How Abbey Defines Autism (19:23) Paul Shows Abbey a Photo of Her as a Baby (21:00) What It’s Like Filming Love on the Spectrum (25:10) What Abbey Likes About Her Boyfriend David (28:31) Does Abbey Love David? (32:45) Shopify Ad (33:51) When Abbey and David Became Official (36:16) How Much Time Christine Has to Herself (37:11) Christine on Parenting an Autistic Child (41:47) What Abbey Loves Most About Christine (45:56) Abbey’s Musical Ability (47:50) Abbey’s Favourite TV Shows (49:03) David’s Ability to See Numbers as Colours (52:15) Paul Surprises Abbey With a Message From A Celebrity Guest (58:16) What Abbey Wishes People Knew About Autism (58:48) What Abbey and David Like to Do Together (59:21) The New Series Of Love On The Spectrum (01:00:03) Most Memorable Conversation (01:03:16) Paul’s Takeaways Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Follow Abbey here: https://www.instagram.com/hatsbyabbey https://www.tiktok.com/@hatsbyabbey Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The most powerful conversations are the ones we usually avoid. Hosted by Paul C. Brunson, We Need To Talk is a show that empowers people to have the conversations they avoid by creating a safe, supportive, and insightful space that encourages vulnerability, self-discovery, and real-world connection. From breakups to breakthroughs, conflict to connection, we go beyond the headlines to uncover the human experiences and relationships that define us.Instagram: @needtotalkTikTok: @weneedtotalkpod
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