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Weird Little Guys
by iHeartPodcasts and Cool Zone Media
Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.
Episodes
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Introducing: Knowledge Fight Country
Knowledge Fight Country is a platform where Dan Friesen and his guests can chew over the biggest and best ideas being disseminated in right wing media. Through a focus on Alex Jones and figures similar to him, this show will provide a humorous and fun layer on top of discussing the context on why...
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CZM Rewind: Third Position & A Secret Third Thing
We're revisiting two classic Weird Little Guys episodes from last year about a white nationalist political party's attempt to get their candidate on the ballot. Third Position Original air date: 8/21/25 In 2012, a newly formed white nationalist political party tried to get their candidate on the...
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KFC #1: The Lies of Math (w/ Molly Conger)
In the first level of Knowledge Fight Country, Dan and his guest adventurer Molly Conger set out to understand the context around Tucker Carlson's interview with a welder who is mad about algebra. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Scientists for Segregation: Ernest van den Haag
A closer look at one of the men on the Pioneer Fund's team of scientists for segregation reveals that he wasn't a scientist at all. Sources & Further Reading: Tucker, William (2002). The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and The Pioneer Fund. University of Illinois Press. Jackson…
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Segregation Forever
Last week, the DOJ's Civil Rights division announced they were moving to dismiss more than 50 desegregation cases against school districts all over the country. Like the weird little guys trying to overturn the Brown v Board of Education decision in the 1960s, the Trump administration is trying…
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Brown v Board of Education v The Pioneer Fund, Pt 2
In the decade after the Supreme Court's ruling in the Brown v Board of Education case, segregationists used every tool available to prevent integration. By the early 1960s, a group of Pioneer Fund-backed scientists had teamed up with the lawyer they hoped could get their pseudoscientific argument...
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Brown v Board of Education v The Pioneer Fund, Pt 1
Wickliffe Draper's Pioneer Fund started out in 1937 by funding screenings of Nazi propaganda films in high schools. But like most American racists, the 1954 Supreme Court decision in the Brown v Board of Education case changed how he approached the fight for white supremacy. Sources & Further...
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Death of a Demagogue (rewind)
Sometimes when a weird little guy gets shot, the guy who killed him is just a weirder little guy. Original Air Date: 9/18/2025 Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2000). Hate: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Washington, D.C.: Brassey's Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And...
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An American Racist in Berlin
In 1937, the heir to a textile manufacturing fortune established a charitable foundation to funnel money into disseminating propaganda produced in Nazi Germany. Since then, that fund has subsidized the overwhelming majority of research in the pseudoscientific field of 'race science.' Sources &...
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Introducing: Natural Causes
Natural Causes is a podcast about the politics and practicalities of going outside in a world on fire, hosted by Dr. James Stout. It approaches the outdoors, conservation, agriculture, food sovereignty, and Indigenous land rights as interconnected issues. We want to combine unflinching journalism...
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Race Scientists and the Human Zoo
In 1904, men who believed in 'race science' put hundreds of people in a human zoo at the St. Louis world's fair. Today, those same racist, pseudoscientific views persist, and the men who hold them demand to be taken seriously in the name of academic freedom. Sources & Further Reading: Newkirk,...
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Mississippi's Still Burning: Byron de la Beckwith Pt 7
In 1994, Byron de la Beckwith was finally convicted of murder for killing Medgar Evers in 1963. He died in prison, his story is over. But history repeats itself. Sources & Further Reading: Massengill, Reed (2024). Portrait of a racist: Byron De La Beckwith and the Assassination of Medgar Evers....
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No Golf No Masters: Celebrating Our Ungovernable Peccary Friends
James talks with Molly Conger about the javelina and their installable appetite for golf courses. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65x0RvhJNa8 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/nov/05/conservation.sciencenews...
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The Fiery Cross: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt 6
In 1964, crosses burned all over Mississippi, signaling a return of the Ku Klux Klan. Their big debut was perfectly timed as a show of support for Byron de la Beckwith. Sources & Further Reading: Massengill, Reed (2024). Portrait of a racist: Byron De La Beckwith and the Assassination of Medgar...
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The First Trial: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt 5
Byron de la Beckwith was tried for the same murder three times. In 1964, it just wasn't generally considered illegal for a white man to kill a black man in Mississippi. Sources & Further Reading: Massengill, Reed (2024). Portrait of a racist: Byron De La Beckwith and the Assassination of Medgar...
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Rabid on the Subject of Segregation: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt 4
In the months leading up to the murder of Medgar Evers, the man who killed him was watching his world crumble. Byron de la Beckwith had dedicated his life to the cause of segregation, but it was a losing battle. The governor of Mississippi had backed down, allowing a second black student to enter...
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Black Monday: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt. 3
In 1954, the Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional. Segregated schools didn't react right away, but segregationists did. Within months, the Citizens' Councils began to form in counties across Mississippi. And Byron de la Beckwith was one of the group's...
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Sons of Mississippi: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt. 2
Byron de la Beckwith and Medgar Evers never met. Evers didn’t even see the man who killed him. But the man and his killer grew up a hundred miles apart, fought in the same war, worked similar jobs, and were both deeply invested in the outcome over the fight for integration. Sources & Further...
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CZM Rewind: The Roommates & In Minecraft
It's a Weird Little Guys classic episode - the story of the Atomwaffen member who murdered two other Atomwaffen members. Stay tuned until the end for some updates to the story. Sources & Further Reading: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67075979/united-states-v-clendaniel/...
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I Watched Uwe Boll's Far Right Power Fantasy So You Don't Have To
This week, Molly watched Citizen Vigilante, a new film from the world's worst director. Sources & Further Reading: https://scoutmagazine.ca/remembering-gastowns-ambitious-but-doomed-modern-german-restaurant/ https://www.dailysabah.com/arts/cinema/hanau-attack-film-angers-victims-families...
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June 11, 1963: Byron de la Beckwith, Pt. 1
On the night of June 11, 1963, Byron de la Beckwith murdered Medgar Evers with a single shot. But how did he end up hiding in a bush across the street from the home of a civil rights leader? Sources & Further Reading: Massengill, Reed (2024). Portrait of a racist: Byron De La Beckwith and the...
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Flagged for Removal
Last week, a federal judge ordered the Department of the Interior to stop implementation of a Trump executive order that would whitewash history at National Park sites. A leaked database shows the materials that parks employees had flagged for removal. They want to 'make America great' by erasing...
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Klan Camp
In 1980, Texas Klan Grand Dragon Louis Beam was running a paramilitary training camp outside of Houston. But they weren't just training klansmen for the race war. They ran a boy scout camp on the weekends. Sources and further reading: Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement...
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Outside Agitators
In 1967, segregationist lawyer Jack Kershaw swore out a warrant against George Ware, an organizer with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. By the end of the week, a congressman was denouncing Ware on the house floor as an outside agitator. But what is an outside agitator? What do we…
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In Loving Memory of Laura & Mike Sullivan
We lost one of the greats last month. Laura Sullivan was an antifascist researcher, a photographer, a journalist, a friend, a mother, and a mentor. She was a legend and we were lucky to have her while we did. You can make a donation to One People's Project, the antifascist organization Laura was...
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It's One Nazi Rally, Donald, How Much Could It Cost?
Wrapping up the discussion of the MAGA narrative surrounding the SPLC indictment, Molly addresses the question of money. If the administration is implying the SPLC fully funded the 2017 Unite the Right rally, what would that mean? How much does something like that cost? And who actually paid for...
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Nazis React to the President Saying They Aren't Real
The MAGA media is running with the President's theory that the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017 wasn't real. That's offensive to anyone with a solid relationship with reality, but it's especially hurtful for the guys who worked very hard to plan that nazi rally. Link to the...
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The Southern Poverty Law Center Did Not Plan Unite the Right
The President of the United States went on 60 Minutes last month and claimed that the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017 was fake, a hoax perpetrated by the Southern Poverty Law Center. He's referring to allegations made in the recent indictment against the SPLC that one of their…
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Emergency Minisode: Jason Kessler Sues Gavin McInnes
It's the first ever Weird Little Guys emergency broadcast! A weird little guy has filed a lawsuit against another weird little guy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Listener Questions
Molly answers some of your burning questions about important stuff, like a nazi's tuna casserole recipe, who came up with a rhyming phrase about fascist violence, and what kind of cake she's eating this week. Sources: Testa, M. Militant Anti-Fascism: A Hundred Years of Resistance. AK Press, 2015....
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Say a Good Word for Slavery: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 3
In the final part of the story about Jack Kershaw, we'll talk about his legal career. Before he represented MLK's assassin, before he sculpted a gigantic racist statue out of old bathtubs, he got a law degree from a part time night school program at the YMCA so he could do his part to stop...
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The Princess in the Parking Lot
Police in New Jersey arrested a woman found sleeping in her car in a strip mall parking lot after the plates came back registered to a stolen vehicle. Her lawyer, Tennessee segregationist Jack Kershaw, insisted that his client was not only innocent, but said she was telling the truth - she really...
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CZM Rewind: Disney's Villain
After losing his job, an ex-Disney employee tried to get his former employer's attention by hacking in and making strange updates to company files. Original Air Date: 6.5.25 Sources: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534211/united-states-v-scheuer/...
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Playboy Payola: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 2
Decades before he sculpted a Confederate general out of old bathtubs, Jack Kershaw briefly represented his most famous client - Martin Luther King Jr's assassin, James Earl Ray. The relationship soured after Ray discovered his lawyer had pocketed a payment from Playboy magazine. Sources: James...
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Strange People on the Hill feat. Michael Edison Hayden
Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill. Preorder the book…
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The Ugliest Confederate Statue in the World: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 1
Jack Kershaw created his most famous piece of art in his 80s. His lifelong passion for the arts had to take a backseat when he shifted his focus to becoming a professional racist during the fight against integration. He was doing it for his confederate ancestors, he would often say. But he was...
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Minisode: The Real Earl Turner
Before we leave the novels of William Luther Pierce behind us, let's take a quick look at the real Earl Turner. The protagonist of The Turner Diaries was, like all of Pierce's characters, named after a real guy he knew. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 2
At the end of this exploration of nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin and the novel loosely based on his crimes, the question remains: did any of his friends in the white power movement know what he was going to do before he did it? What clues does the novel hold? Sources: Pierce, Kelvin.…
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The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 1
A closer look at the second novel by the man who wrote The Turner Diaries reveals that it isn't just about serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin... it's the author's fantasy about the man he wishes he could have been. Sources: Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most…
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 6
As we approach the end of the series on nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin, the rest of the timeline is filled in. Shortly after murdering two young men in Utah, Franklin was arrested at a motel in Kentucky after calling to complain that a police car had him double parked. Sources: Mel…
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Raymond Turner
Just about every source of information about nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin gets the name of one of his victims wrong. In my search for information about the man who was murdered in Falls Church, Virginia in August of 1979, I came up mostly empty. We've erased a man from the story of his...
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 5
After Joseph Paul Franklin was arrested in 1980, prosecutors all over the country were waiting their turn to try him for murder. After a federal prosecutor failed to convince a jury that shooting a man just for being black was a civil rights violation, they lost their confidence. But Joseph Paul...
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 4
When Joseph Paul Franklin hit the road to start his killing spree, his movements seemed completely random. But what if they weren't? Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011 Fine, Morris, and Milton…
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 3
Last week, we looked at the nazi newletters serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin was probably reading in the leadup to his killing spree. But there is one thing we know for certain he was reading: Hustler. Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul...
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 2
In 1977, Joseph Paul Franklin started his three year killing spree, but he wasn't the only neo-nazi who murdered for the movement that summer. Sources: Sunshine, Spencer. (2024). Neo-Nazi terrorism and countercultural fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Taylor & Francis....
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To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias
Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse. Preorder Chris' book:...
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CZM Rewind: Soldier of Misfortune: Frank Sweeney
Part One: Frank Abbott Sweeney Jr may be the Forrest Gump of American white supremacy in the 20th century. Starting with a failed bank robbery for the American Nazi Party in the 60s, Frank stumbled his way into being an inconsequential side character in major historical events for decades.…
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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 1
Years before he set off on his three year killing spree, Joseph Paul Franklin left his home in Alabama to attend a nazi conference in Virginia. Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011 Belew, Kathleen. Bring…
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Cops & Klan
In 1965, a car full of klansmen shot and killed Viola Liuzzo, a white woman from Detroit who volunteered to drive civil rights activists back to Selma after the march to Montgomery. The FBI immediately kicked into overdrive to drag her name through the mud. Sources: Stanton, Mary. From Selma to...
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Earl Turner's Diary
When the man responsible for bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City was arrested, he was carrying a page of his favorite book. The book had been sold at gun shows and in ads in nazi newsletters for years, but suddenly the rest of the country was asking... can a book kill? Sources: Berger…
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Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.
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