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When The Game Ends
by Ben Holden
Podcast with @benholdenpxp and @mcarman16 interviewing athletes about the transition from professional sports into the everyday world #whenthegameends
Episodes
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EP 4, When The Game Ends, Colby Cohen
Great episode with former NHL/AHL/NCAA/USNTDP defenseman Colby Cohen in our 4th episode of the podcast. Colby and co-host Mike Carman were teammates w/the USNTDP program, then again in the AHL with Lake Erie before Colby was traded from Colorado to Boston. Colby scored one of the biggest goals in...
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EP 3, Danny DeKeyser
EP 3 When The Game Ends We talked with former Detroit Red Wings Defenseman Danny DeKeyser, who recently joined Mike Carman & Ben Holden to discuss what this podcast is all about, the transition for pro athletes once they retire & leave the game. Danny had a decade long career with his hometown…
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EP 2, When The Game Ends, Pierre-Luc Leblond
EP 2, When The Game Ends, PIerre-Luc Leblond In this episode with former NHL/AHL/ECHL hockey player/enforcer PIerre-Luc Leblond. We discussed his career at length & his transition from pro athlete to everyday life. PL talks about adjusting to real life after his career, and how in hockey, you…
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EP 1, When The Game Ends, Mike Carman
Our first episode of When The Game Ends, a podcast dedicated to athletes making the transition our of their sports career into everyday life. This was our first podcast, the co-hosts, Ben Holden and Mike Carman, talked about Mike's career, a career that saw Mike play for the USNTDP teams, the...
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No Holden Back Episode: 58 Kevin Cassese - Lehigh Lacrosse Head Coach
Great catching up and chatting with Lehigh Lacrosse Head Coach Kevin Cassese today! Kevin has been at Lehigh for 13 seasons as their head coach and he's built a solid, competitive program in the Lehigh Valley. The Mountain Hawks were off to a great start this season, 5-1, before COVID 19 hit the...
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No Holden Back Episode: 57 - Meymo Lyons - News Veteran/Former WILX TV Managing Editor
In this episode, I catch up with a woman who had a lasting impact and impression on me and several other of my former coworkers at WILX TV - NBC 10 in Lansing, Mi! Meymo Lyons, or "Mem", as all of us knew her by, joined me to talk about the great times and group we had in the late 90's, early...
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No Holden Back Episode 56: Pro Sports and College Sports Talk/Update
Hello all! We hope you are doing well and staying safe and of course, enjoying our podcast. On this episode of the No Holden Back podcast we talk about Formula 1, MotoGP, NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL, and college football. Giving you updates and what we think of what's going on in the world of sports! We...
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No Holden Back: Episode 55 - Steve Coon - WILX NBC 10 - Chief Photographer/Operations Manager
So much fun in this episode with Steve Coon, longtime Chief Photographer, and now Operations Manager at WILX NBC 10 in Lansing, MI!! We had some great times in the 6 years i worked at the station, this is a very entertaining episode, the stories are endless!! Steve started as a photographer at…
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No Holden Back Episode: 54 - Aaron Baskerville - NBC 10 (Philadelphia) - News Reporter
Excellent time catching up and chatting with former WILX NBC 10 (Lansing, MI), coworker, Aaron Baskerville in this episode!! Aaron and I met late in 2001, he joined the news department as a general assignment reporter. Lansing was his 1st stop in what has become an award winning career as a news...
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No Holden Back Episode: 53 Jeremy Ross - CBS 2 Chicago News Reporter
Excellent time chatting with former WILX NBC 10, (Lansing, MI) coworker Jeremy Ross! We spent 2 years working together in Lansing, and had some great times!! Jeremy is a Michigan native, from suburban Detroit, he attended the University of Michigan and later, earned his Master's Degree from…
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No Holden Back Episode: 52 - Nick LaFave - WZZM TV - News Anchor - Grand Rapids, MI
Starting to do some shows/podcasts with several of my former co-workers at WILX TV in Lansing, Michigan. First up is WZZM News Anchor Nick LaFave, we spent a good part of 2004 working together on weekends. Nick has done great things in his career since then and continues to do them today!! He…
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No Holden Back Episode: 51 - Jason Zone Fisher - TV Host/Reporter
In this episode, I talk with Jason Zone Fisher, longtime TV Host, Reporter, Emcee. Jason is a native of Shaker Heights, Ohio and at a young age, he got his start in show business. At just 9 years old, Jason was cast in "Conversations With My Father", a show that played at the Cleveland Playhouse....
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No Holden Back Episode: 50 - Warren Pick - Veteran TV Director/Producer
In this episode, I’m joined by veteran TV director/producer, Warren Pick. We first met back in 2012 on a lacrosse event for CBS Sports Network, since then we’ve become good friends & working colleagues. Warren grew up in NYC & New Jersey, his mother & father were both in the entertainment…
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No Holden Back Episode: 49-Father's Day Special
Today on episode 49 of the No Holden Back podcast we talk about Monster Energy Supercross and the championship battle between 450 title contenders Eli Tomac and Cooper Webb, what's new in American sports, and the WAL. Of course, we also talk Father's Day and some of the great memories and things...
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No Holden Back Episode: 48 Sports Update 6-17-20
Welcome back! It's been 3 weeks since we've recorded a new episode and we are pumped to be back! on this episode we talk about Monster Energy Supercross, Moto GP, Nascar, NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL, College Football, PLL, and Soccer as well! it's a total sports round table! We thank you for all your...
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No Holden Back Episode: 47-Matt McConnell - Arizona Coyotes TV PxP Announcer
Outstanding time catching up with Matt McConnell, TV PxP Announcer for the Arizona Coyotes! He joined Fred Pletsch & I to talk about where his love for hockey comes from, his childhood, his college days at MSU, his first job in minor league hockey, his first NHL call up, his stops in the NHL,...
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No Holden Back Episode: 46 Pat Ferschweiler - WMU Associate Head Coach
Great catching up with WMU Associate Head Coach Pat Fershweiler in this episode as he joined Fred Pletsch & I. We went back to Pat’s hockey roots in the state of Minnesota, his college recruitment by Minnesota Duluth & later Western Michigan, where he finished his college playing career. Plus…
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No Holden Back Episode: 45 - George Gwozdecky - Part 2
Part 2 with former Denver head coach George Gwozdecky as he joined Fred Pletsch & I. Started out w/his friendship w/ MSU basketball coach Tom Izzo & what kept him from taking over for Ron Mason at MSU. From there great conversation & discussion on the 2 national titles he led Denver to, some...
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No Holden Back Episode: 44 George Gwozdecky - Part 1 of 2
Part 1 of a 2 part interview with Former Denver & Miami (OH) hockey coach George Gwozdecky as he joined Fred Pletsch and I for some great conversation and stories from his playing and coaching days. We dropped the puck talking about Valor Christian HS Hockey, George finished his 5th season…
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No Holden Back Episode: 43 Neil Koepke - Veteran College Hockey Writer
Excellent time chatting with longtime & veteran college hockey writer Neil Koepke in this episode! Neil joined Fred Pletsch and I to talk about several topics, great listen for the college hockey fan or hockey fan in general with Neil, who has nearly 50 years of covering the sport! We started out...
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No Holden Back Episode: 42 Mike Commito - Hockey Writer & Historian
Great chatting with Mike Commito, Sudbury, Ontario based hockey writer and historian, Mike is a great follow on Twitter as he puts out daily info about the history of the game, if you love hockey history, Mike is a great person to follow! He joined Fred Pletsch and I to chat about his road to...
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No Holden Back Episode: 41 Michael Frank - Veteran TV Director
Great time chatting with friend & co-worker Michael Frank, we've worked on the Army Football package the last 2 seasons together, Michael is our TV director on the package. Over the last couple years, we've had several opportunities to chat sports and I'm always blown away about the stories…
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No Holden Back Episode: 40 "The Last Dance" - Sports Discussion
Luke was back in the host seat today, always great to sit next to my son for these, been a lot of fun!! Today we talked about a few different topics, we started off with some news that Luke had about the Pro Supercross series, they will start racing again in late May in Utah. We also talked some...
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No Holden Back Episode: 39 Mike O'Donnell - Former UCF Guard, CBS Sports Network Analyst
Excellent conversation with former UCF guard & CBS Sports Network College Basketball Analyst Mike O'Donnell in this episode. Mike and I have worked games together a few times over the last few seasons, always enjoy working with Mike, and catching up with him in this forum was fun as well! We…
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No Holden Back Episode: 38 Joe Bertagna - Longtime College Hockey Conf. Commissioner
Great chatting with Joe Bertagna in this episode as he joined Fred Pletsch and I to talk hockey, with some great stories his days as a commissioner, player, and goalie coach! Before we jumped into the hockey talk, Joe shared with us how he and 3 members of his family had COVID-19 earlier this…
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No Holden Back Episode: 37 Brad Schlossman - GF Herald Hockey Writer
Since 2005, Brad Schlossman has covered North Dakota and the world of College Hockey for the Grand Forks Herald. Brad joined Fred Pletsch and I recently to chat about a wide variety of topics, first we talked about how he got his start as a journalist with the Herald, he started in 2003 and in…
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No Holden Back Episode: 36 - PLL Draft Talk, NBA Talk & Top 10 NBA Players
Luke was back in the host seat today, always a thrill to be next to my son when we do these podcasts, so cool to see him in his element!! Luke wanted to talk about Wednesday nights PLL Draft, he went through it all and broke it down some, love talking lacrosse with my man! We also discussed some...
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No Holden Back Episode: 35 Blake Coleman - Tampa Bay Lightning
In this episode, I chat with Tampa Bay Lightning Forward Blake Coleman, who was traded earlier this NHL season from New Jersey to Tampa Bay. Coleman and I go back a few years, he played in the NCHC at MIami (OH) before he embarked on his pro career with the team that drafted him, New Jersey. His...
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No Holden Back Episode: 34 Jason Bacashihua - Pro Hockey Goalie
In this episode, Fred Pletsch and I catch up and chat with longtime pro hockey goalie, Jason Bacashihua of Dearborn Heights, MI. Cash, as he's known in the hockey world, was a 1st round pick of the Dallas Stars, (26th overall), in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft. In his teen years, Cash played for the...
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No Holden Back Episode: 33 Trevor Baptiste - PLL Atlas - Faceoff Man/Midfielder
Luke and I chat with the always entertaining Trevor Baptiste, now with PLL Atlas, as their Faceoff Man/Midfielder, we started out with Trevor talking about what's he is doing to stay ready for the PLL, which is set to play a tournament style season in July. We also discussed his path from New...
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No Holden Back Episode: 32 Eric Law - PLL Atlas Attackman
Luke and I caught with former Denver Pioneers Attackman Eric Law in this episode, we talked all things lacrosse in this episode. We went back to Eric's days growing up in Colorado and what got him started in lacrosse, the process for him to go to college and play at D3 Salisbury (MD), a D3...
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No Holden Back Episode: 31 Scott Sandelin - Minnesota-Duluth Hockey Coach
In this episode we catch up with a man who has won 3 NCAA Hockey Championships as a head coach, Scott Sandelin of MInnesota-Duluth! Sandelin joined Fred Pletsch and I, and we dropped the puck talking about his Bulldogs, winners of the last 2 NCAA titles, and how they were primed to try and become...
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No Holden Back Episode: 30 Matt Ford - Grand Rapids Griffins Captain
In this episode we catch up with Grand Rapids Griffins Captain/Forward Matt Ford. I first met Matt in Cleveland when he was playing for the Lake Erie Monsters and I was the team broadcaster, in fact as Matt tells Fred Pletsch and I in this episode, his time w/Lake Erie was big in his development…
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No Holden Back Episode: 29 Jeff LoVecchio - Owner, RIPT Hockey
In this episode, we chat with former Western Michigan Forward & Captain Jeff LoVecchio. Fred Pletsch joined me on this episode, we talked with Jeff about his roots in hockey in St. Louis, MO, to his tryout with the Omaha Lancers in the USHL, to his commitment to Western Michigan, a school that...
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No Holden Back Episode: 28 Brian Riley - Army Hockey Coach
In this episode, we catch up with Army Hockey Coach Brian Riley, who is the 3rd member of his family to coach the hockey team at West Point. Fred Pletsch and I talk with Riley about his early days of playing hockey in Waterloo, Iowa, his time playing at Brown University and how he started his...
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No Holden Back Episode: 27 Guy Gadowsky - Penn State Hockey Coach
In this episode, I'm joined by Fred Pletsch as we chat with Penn State Hockey Coach Guy Gadowsky who was hired to help start the Nittany Lions program 9 years ago. We chat with Gadowsky about his hockey roots in his hometown of Edmonton, Alberta, he grew up as the Oilers glory years with Wayne...
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No Holden Back Episode: 26 Sean Ritchlin ESPN College Hockey Analyst
In this episode, longtime friend & college hockey broadcaster Sean Ritchlin joined me to talk all things college hockey. We started out talking some golf, and anyone who knows Sean won't be surprised by that!! As for the hockey discussion, we talked about several different topics, including…
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No Holden Back Episode: 25 Lex DeMolina - TPH Player Development
Lex DeMolina is a young, up & coming hockey coach who recently was hired TPH (Total Package Hockey) in New Jersey. Lex told in this episode his first memories of hockey were watching NY Rangers games with his Dad, Carlos DeMolina, a longtime veteran TV producer, who i've worked with the last 6...
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No Holden Back Episode: 24 College Sports talk, PLL, and More!
On the latest edition of the No Holden Back podcast, we discuss the PLL (Premier Lacrosse League) starting quarantine play on July 25 in the Championship Series. We also talk about the latest episodes of "The Last Dance" and some of the interesting takeaways from episodes 5 and 6. We also discuss...
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No Holden Back Episode: 23 Josh Fenton NCHC Commissioner
In this recent episode NCHC Commissioner Josh Fenton joined Fred Pletsch and I to talk all things NCHC, including the days and moments leading up to the cancellation of the season and some updates on next season. We also went to back to Fenton's roots in the hockey rich state of Minnesota to chat...
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No Holden Back Episode: 22 Mike Haviland-Colorado College Hockey Coach
Colorado College head coach Mike Haviland joined Fred Pletsch and I for some great conversation about his playing and coaching career in this episode. Haviland has been the head coach at CC since 2014 and in 2019 he guided the Tigers to the NCHC Frozen Faceoff Semifinals for the first time as a...
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No Holden Back Episode: 21 Robby Jackson - Off The Ice
Excellent time chatting with former St. Cloud State Forward Robby Jackson, who in 4 years with the Huskies scored 52 goals, set up 69 others for 121 career points!! Robby is in his 2nd season of pro hockey, he's spent time with the Tulsa Oilers of the ECHL and the San Antonio Rampage of the AHL,...
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No Holden Back Episode: 20 Marc Crawford - Chicago Blackhawks Asst. Coach
In this episode, I'm joined by Fred Pletsch, who goes way back with Stanley Cup Championship winning Head Coach Marc Crawford. We discuss a pair of Memorial Cup Championships Crawford won, his very competitive family of hockey players and coaches, all of whom had success in both playing and...
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No Holden Back Episode: 19 Frank Serratore Air Force Hockey Coach
In this episode, Fred Pletsch joined me to chat with longtime and always entertaining Air Force Hockey coach Frank Serratore. We chatted with Frank about growing up on the "Iron Range" of Minnesota, an area rich in hockey history and tradition. We also discussed coaching path and how he…
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No Holden Back Episode: 18 "The Last Dance" , Recap and discussion
In this episode, Luke and I recap and discuss the latest episodes, 3 and 4, of The Last Dance, the documentary on Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. We talked Dennis Rodman, The Worm, and his 48 hour vacation during the season to Vegas, The Bad Boys, the Non-Handshake after the Bulls finally...
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No Holden Back Episode: 17 Brad Berry - North Dakota Hockey Head Coach
In this episode we chatted with the 2019-20 National Coach of the Year, Brad Berry, Head Coach at North Dakota. Berry guided his team to the NCHC regular season championship and the Penrose Cup this season. We chatted with Brad about the championship regular season it was for his team, his…
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No Holden Back Episode: 16 Ryan VandenBussche, 9 year NHL Veteran
Great time chatting with former NHL enforcer Ryan VandenBussche, as he joined Fred Pletsch and I recently. VandenBussche spend 9 years in the NHL and developed a reputation as the toughest pound for pound enforcer during his playing career, racking up over 700 career penalty minutes. We discussed...
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No Holden Back Episode: 15 Chris Wilkie-Colorado College Sr. Forward
Chris Wilkie's NCAA hockey career started at North Dakota in 2015-16 & at the end of that season, North Dakota won the NCAA title. Wilkie would play 1 more season in Grand Forks before transferring to Colorado College for a fresh start and with the hope of playing for the Tigers with his younger...
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No Holden Back Episode: 14 Jeff Monken Army Football Head Coach
Great time chatting with Army Football Head Coach Jeff Monken! We discussed having no spring ball due to the COVID-19 pandemic, what Jeff and his staff are doing to keep busy during the shutdown, as well as what his players are doing during this time. We also discussed 3 Army players who have...
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No Holden Back Episode: 13 "The Last Dance" Discussion
My son Luke is 18, soon to be 19, and never got the chance to see Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls play. We both watched the first 2 parts of the 10 part documentary, "The Last Dance" this past weekend and wanted to sit down and discuss and debate a few things. Was a fun episode as an 18 year...
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