Who Killed Sister Cathy?
by Shane Waters, Gemma Hoskins
Join Gemma Hoskins, the beloved advocate from Netflix's The Keepers , and veteran crime podcaster Shane Waters as they revisit the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, a young nun whose mysterious death in 1969 has haunted Baltimore for decades. Who Killed Sister Cathy? goes beyond the documentary, bringing you new interviews, fresh perspectives, and revelations that have never been heard before. Together, Gemma and Shane are relentless in their pursuit of the truth, unraveling secrets and untold stories that point to a conspiracy that shook a community to its core. This is not just a podcast—it's an ongoing investigation that seeks justice for Sister Cathy and comfort for those who loved her.We also welcome you to Shane's main crime series podcast, with more than 34 series: *Foul Play.*
Episodes
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97: The Keepers, Where Are They Now
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins close out their reunion by going down the list of the people who appeared in the Netflix documentary The Keepers, where they are today, who is still fighting, who has found peace, and who the world has lost. It is a warm, reflective conversation about the unsolved...
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96: The Suspects and the Silence
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins continue their first sit-down in over a year, working through the second half of the questions listeners submitted through the show's Facebook community. This is the follow-up to "The Mary Statue and Unanswered Questions, " a wide-ranging conversation about the...
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95: The Mary Statue and Unanswered Questions
Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins sit down together for the first time in over a year for a wide-ranging conversation about the unsolved 1969 murder of Sister Catherine Ann Cesnik in Baltimore, Maryland. Known to millions through the Netflix documentary The Keepers, Gemma has spent more than a…
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94: Lies, Truth, and The Keepers
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, an expert in detecting deception through body language, as they dive deep into the perplexing case of Sister Cathy. The trio scrutinizes the most promising suspects and unpacks intriguing visuals from The Keepers, shedding new…
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93: Sister Cathy, Continuing the Timeline
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma pick up where they left off, completing the intricate timeline of events surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They shed light on pivotal moments, uncover new connections, and discuss the lingering questions that continue to...
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92: Sister Cathy, A Timeline of Events and Key Insights
In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma discuss the significant developments and unanswered questions surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They outline a detailed timeline leading up to and following her disappearance, touching on key events and interactions with...
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91: Slides of Hope: A Doctor's Quest for Justice
In this episode, recorded as 2022 drew to a close, Shane and Gemma are joined in Maryland by Catherine Rentz, a seasoned journalist and producer, along with John Benam, the acclaimed Director of Photography known for his work on The Keepers. Catherine takes listeners deep into a compelling story...
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90: The Jesuit Seminarian
Shane and Gemma dive into a dramatic and unexpected new twist in the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. They are joined by Ronnie Norpel, whose parents were personal friends with Gerry Koob, a Jesuit priest who was close to Sister Cathy and has long been considered a significant person of interest…
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89: AG Report - A Tale of Abuse and Cover-Up
Shane undertakes a meticulous examination of the Attorney General's extensive report on child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. With careful and deliberate attention, he reads and analyzes key sections of the landmark report, shedding light on the distressing findings and the...
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88: Reflections on the Attorney General's Report on Clergy Abuse
In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Gemma and Shane delve into the profound implications of the Maryland Attorney General's landmark report on clergy abuse. Joined by advocate and paralegal Mary Beth and survivor Kim, the episode offers an in-depth analysis of the report's most significant...
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87: Bankruptcy and Betrayal - How Bankruptcy Shields Predators
Who stands to gain? This episode examines the complex web of Archdiocesan bankruptcies and their troubling connection to Sister Cathy's unsolved murder. After funneling extensive financial resources into fighting against survivors in Maryland courts to preserve the statute of limitations, the...
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86: Uniting for Survivors - The Battle for Transparency
Gemma and survivor Donna find themselves at the forefront of a critical moment in the fight against clergy abuse in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This episode captures the charged atmosphere of a pivotal press conference where SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests), their attorneys,...
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85: Transparency and Accountability at the Archdiocese of Baltimore
The Maryland Attorney General's investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore has concluded with a devastating 456-page report. The document details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic priests within the Archdiocese....
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84: The Truth in the Machine - Understanding Polygraphs
Shane and Gemma welcome a distinguished guest, William Ortiz, a retired FBI Special Agent and decorated Marine Corps veteran. With his extensive experience in federal law enforcement and as the founder of Ortsec, a professional polygraph service company, William brings invaluable insight into the...
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83: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 2
In part two of their conversation with Jean and Teresa from The Keepers, Shane and Gemma continue to examine the troubled intersections of the courts, the church, and law enforcement in the Sister Cathy case. The discussion delves deeper into the systemic failures that have allowed perpetrators…
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82: Teresa & Jean - the Courts, the Church and the Cops, Part 1
Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from the Netflix documentary The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. In part one of this two-part conversation, the focus falls squarely on the status of the four-year Maryland Attorney General investigation into clergy abuse…
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81: Walking with Aletheia
Shane and Gemma are honored to host Jean Wehner, a key figure from the Netflix documentary The Keepers, along with her brother. This episode offers a deep and moving dive into Jean's newly published memoir, Walking with Aletheia, which chronicles her extraordinary journey of discovery, healing…
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80: Safe in Socks - Teresa Lancaster's Journey
The 80th episode of the series features a profound and moving discussion with Teresa Lancaster, a pivotal figure from the acclaimed Netflix documentary series The Keepers. Teresa courageously shares her harrowing experiences of abuse within the Catholic Church and her relentless, decades-long...
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79: The Brother - Unveiling Hidden Paths
Shane and Gemma delve deeper into the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik with an enlightening interview with 'the brother,' a religious figure who shares his unique and personal perspective on Sister Cathy's life and the events leading up to her tragic disappearance and death in 1969. The...
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78: Inside Richter's Office
Shane and Gemma discuss the courageous decision of Liz, a former medical assistant, to come forward publicly with her experiences working for Dr. Christian Richter. Liz's account adds a chilling and previously unknown layer of detail to the tangled narrative surrounding the Sister Cathy case and...
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77: Echoes of Tragedy - The Pamela Conyers Case
Shane and Gemma delve into a case that potentially intersects with the unsolved murders of both Sister Cathy Cesnik and Joyce Malecki. They are joined by Ingrid, the niece of Pamela Conyers, who shares the haunting details of her aunt's tragic death and her family's ongoing quest for justice....
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76: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 2
Continuing the live Q&A format, Shane and Gemma address more listener questions in part two of this dynamic interactive session. The hosts tackle additional theories, evidence questions, and recent case developments raised by their deeply engaged community of followers. This episode dives into...
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75: Live Q&A - Unraveling the Mystery, Part 1
In an interactive and dynamic episode, Shane and Gemma take their investigation into the public sphere with a live podcast session dedicated to answering listener questions. This episode offers a unique opportunity for the audience to engage directly with the hosts, bringing their individual...
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74: Who was Sister Russell?
Shane and Gemma sit down with Beth, a former student and close friend of Sister Russell Phillips. This episode offers a unique and deeply personal insight into the life of Sister Russell, a significant figure who served as Sister Cathy Cesnik's roommate and remains a key person in the unfolding...
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73: From Shadows to Light – Erin's Journey
Shane and Gemma engage in a powerful and deeply personal conversation with Erin, a long-time friend of the podcast whose story is both devastating and ultimately hopeful. Erin's account is a stark testament to the destructive consequences of trauma and addiction, yet it also serves as a beacon of...
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72: Chasing Alice – Lessons from a Tragedy
Gemma and Shane are joined by Stephanie Fowler, whose book Chasing Alice delves into the harrowing account of her high school teacher Alice, a beacon of hope and refuge during Stephanie's troubled youth. Stephanie's intimate conversation with the hosts reveals the transformative impact Alice had…
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71: Keeping On with Gemma
In a heartfelt and introspective episode, the spotlight shines on Gemma Hoskins, whose tireless quest for truth has transcended the role of a former student to become that of a published author and tenacious investigator. Gemma shares poignant chapters from her newly published book, Keeping On,...
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70: Deciphering Deceit – More Behavioral Analysis
This episode dives deeper into the murky waters of truth and falsehood as Shane and Gemma reconvene with Mike, the behavior detection specialist with extensive federal experience. This follow-up episode continues the exploration of lies and deception that began in earlier episodes, now…
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69: The Inner Circle – A Round Table on Maskell and Memories
Shane and Gemma facilitate a remarkable round table discussion featuring key figures from the acclaimed Netflix documentary The Keepers. This extraordinary assembly opens a multi-faceted dialogue on the enigmatic and ominous figure of Father Joseph Maskell, his tenure as a teacher at Loyola, and...
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68: Organized Abuse – A Global Call to Action
Shane and Gemma join forces with Associate Professor Michael Salter, a criminologist from the University of New South Wales and a leading international expert on organized sexual abuse. Salter brings critical knowledge and professional urgency to the conversation, spotlighting a subject that has...
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67: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 2
In part two of this examination of deception and human behavior, Mike continues to share his specialized expertise in detecting lies and evaluating the truthfulness of testimony. Building on the analysis established in the previous episode, Shane, Gemma, and Mike apply rigorous behavior detection...
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66: Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 1
Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with an extensive background in federal government operations. Mike brings his specialized expertise to illuminate the subtle nuances of human behavior under scrutiny. His personal account of a traumatic upbringing in a...
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65: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 2
Part two continues the immersive coverage from the Hidden Predator Act hearing in Annapolis, Maryland, capturing additional powerful testimony and legislative debate from February 20th. Survivors and advocates make their compelling case before lawmakers for reforming the statutes of limitations...
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64: The Fight for Justice – The Hidden Predator Act 2020, Part 1
In a compelling departure from its regular format, this episode presents an immersive audio experience recorded directly from the legislative heart of Maryland. Departing from the familiar studio setting, the episode channels the raw advocacy and powerful testimonies that resonated through the...
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63: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 3
In the concluding part of the three-part listener Q&A series, Shane and Gemma address the final batch of audience questions about Sister Cathy's case. This episode brings thoughtful closure to many lingering questions while honestly acknowledging the significant mysteries that remain unsolved.…
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62: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 2
Shane and Gemma continue their engaging listener Q&A in part two of this three-part interactive series. Addressing more of the many thoughtful questions submitted by their audience, the hosts delve into specific theories, evidence, and the broader implications of the case. This episode explores...
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61: Voices Unheard – Listener Q&A, Part 1
In a special interactive session, hosts Shane and Gemma open the floor to their dedicated audience in part one of a three-part listener Q&A series. This episode addresses the many thoughtful questions submitted by listeners throughout the series' run, connecting with the audience on a personal...
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60: Confronting the Unspeakable – Child Abuse and Recovery
This profound episode features hosts Shane and Gemma in conversation with Kate MacDowell, a seasoned expert in trauma therapy with 26 years of clinical experience in the field. Kate's deeply personal journey as a survivor of child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Minnesota lends an…
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59: The Examiner's Tale – A Forensic Reckoning
In a unique solo episode, Gemma conducts a rare and illuminating interview with Dr. Werner Spitz, the renowned forensic pathologist whose expertise has shed light on some of the most challenging criminal cases in recent American history. Dr. Spitz's role as the Medical Examiner for Baltimore…
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57: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 4
Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent for the fourth and final installment examining the cover-up surrounding Sister Cathy's case. Building on three preceding episodes of meticulous investigation, this episode synthesizes the accumulated evidence of corruption, church complicity,...
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56: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 3
In part three of the series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, the veteran journalist and Shane continue their deep examination of the conspiracy surrounding Sister Cathy's case. This concluding installment ties together the complex threads of corruption, institutional complicity, and law...
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55: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 2
In part two of the three-part series with investigative reporter Tom Nugent, Shane continues peeling back the layers of conspiracy surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Their probing dialogue ventures deeper into Baltimore's intertwined histories of corruption, church complicity, and the troubling...
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54: Decoding the Cover-Up, Part 1
In part one of an incisive three-part series, Shane welcomes back investigative reporter Tom Nugent to peel back the complex layers surrounding the Sister Cathy case. Shane and Tom engage in a probing dialogue that ventures into the heart of Baltimore's darkest institutional histories, uncovering...
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53: Reflections of a Legacy
This solemn episode marks the passage of five decades since the world was robbed of a compassionate and dedicated soul. Hosts Shane and Gemma invite listeners to join in a moment of reflection, honoring the life of Sister Cathy Cesnik, who left her Carriage House Apartment for the last time fifty...
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52: The Hunter - Unearthing the Unthinkable
Shane and Gemma sit down with George Brown, the man who stumbled upon the grim scene that would ultimately reignite the search for justice in Sister Cathy's case. George's narrative is a crucial and often misunderstood piece of the puzzle in understanding the events surrounding Sister Cathy's...
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51: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 2
Shane and Gemma continue their conversation with veteran journalist Tom Nugent in the second part of this revealing two-part dialogue. Nugent shares deeper insights from his own independent investigations into the Sister Cathy case, examining the persistent threads that connect institutional...
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50: Tom Nugent - A Journalist's Quest, Part 1
In this milestone 50th episode, Shane and Gemma are joined by veteran journalist Tom Nugent, who brings decades of investigative acumen to the case of Sister Cathy Cesnik. With a distinguished career dedicated to uncovering truth in complex and often dangerous narratives, Nugent's involvement...
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49: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 2
In part two, Gemma and Shane continue their evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about Sister Cathy Cesnik's momentous decision to leave religious life. Sr. Rose provides further nuanced insight into the tensions between institutional obedience and personal conscience that defined this...
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48: Beyond the Veil – A Nun's Choice, Part 1
Gemma and Shane engage in an evocative and thought-provoking conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media…
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47: The Redacted Truths – MKUltra's Children
In the wake of the profound revelations from the previous episodes, Shane pores over a declassified document that pulls back the curtain on the chilling practices of the CIA's MKUltra program. This episode brings to light a heavily redacted CIA document from 1951 detailing experiments conducted…
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About this show
Join Gemma Hoskins, the beloved advocate from Netflix's The Keepers , and veteran crime podcaster Shane Waters as they revisit the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, a young nun whose mysterious death in 1969 has haunted Baltimore for decades. Who Killed Sister Cathy? goes beyond the documentary, bringing you new interviews, fresh perspectives, and revelations that have never been heard before. Together, Gemma and Shane are relentless in their pursuit of the truth, unraveling secrets and untold stories that point to a conspiracy that shook a community to its core. This is not just a podcast—it's an ongoing investigation that seeks justice for Sister Cathy and comfort for those who loved her.We also welcome you to Shane's main crime series podcast, with more than 34 series: *Foul Play.*
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