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Witnessing Christ
by Truth in Love Ministry
Witnessing Christ is a Truth in Love Ministry podcast designed to help biblical Christians witness to their Mormon family, friends, and missionaries. For more Bible-based witnessing resources, check out tilm.org. We have many resources to support you, including classes, witnessing scenarios, books, and so much more.
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Understanding Isaiah - with Ken Cherney Jr.
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Mike and Molly are joined by Professor Ken Cherney of Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary for the first part of a special series on the book of Isaiah. As Latter-day Saints prepare to study Isaiah in their Come, Follow Me readings, this conversation helps Christians better understand Isaiah for themselves and equips them to use this remarkable book to point their LDS friends, family members, and coworkers to Jesus. Isaiah can be challenging, but it is also one of the most important books for understanding the message of the New Testament. Professor Cherney walks through Isaiah’s historical setting, explains some of the principles that help us interpret biblical prophecy, and shows why recognizing poetry, metaphor, and context matters when reading the book. The conversation also explores how Christians and Latter-day Saints can approach the same passages with very different assumptions. From Isaiah’s picture of the Lord’s temple to his remarkable prophecies about the Servant of the Lord, the episode demonstrates how careful reading continually brings us back to Jesus and His finished work. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Isaiah is foundational for understanding the New Testament. How Isaiah’s historical setting helps us understand his message. What exegesis and hermeneutics are—and why they matter when reading Scripture. How recognizing poetry and metaphor can prevent us from misreading biblical prophecy. What Isaiah 2 teaches about the mountain of the Lord and the worldwide spread of God's Word. How Isaiah 40 proclaims comfort and complete forgiveness to God's people. Why Isaiah's Servant Songs point so clearly to Jesus Christ. How Isaiah 53 describes Christ suffering in the place of sinners. How Isaiah 61 presents the gospel as good news, freedom, release, and comfort. Practical ways to use Isaiah to begin Christ-centered conversations with Latter-day Saints. Throughout the conversation, one truth stands out: Isaiah is filled with Jesus. The suffering Servant is pierced for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities. The promised Messiah brings good news to the poor, freedom to captives, and comfort to those who mourn. The gospel Isaiah proclaims is not another set of requirements we must fulfill—it is the announcement of what God gives freely through Christ. As you read Isaiah alongside your LDS friends, you don't need to turn every passage into a debate. Ask questions, examine the text together, and let God's Word speak. Again and again, Isaiah directs sinners away from themselves and toward the Savior who suffers in their place and brings them peace. Music used in this episode under license. License code: BSIPX0EWJ87RCGZLShare this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Introducing Mike Cherney!
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Molly sits down with Pastors Mike Cherney and Wayne Uhlhorn to talk about witnessing to Latter-day Saints, what they’ve learned through Truth in Love Ministry, and why Christians are more prepared to share the gospel than they might think.Mike introduces himself as Truth in Love Ministry’s new Director of Ministry Development and shares some of the experiences that led him into ministry to Latter-day Saints. One encounter in particular left a lasting impression: after Mike assured an elderly Christian woman of eternal life because of Christ’s finished work, her LDS nurse responded, “I wish I could have that kind of confidence.” That conversation helped Mike see the incredible blessing Christians have in the certainty of forgiveness and eternal life through Jesus. Mike and Wayne also reflect on their recent mission trip to Idaho Falls, what they learned from conversations with Latter-day Saints, and why successful witnessing doesn’t always mean seeing immediate results. Sometimes sharing one clear gospel truth and planting a seed is exactly what God has called us to do.In this episode, you’ll hear: Mike’s background and what brought him to Truth in Love Ministry. How conversations with Latter-day Saints shaped Mike and Wayne’s approach to witnessing. Why Christians don’t need to be experts in Mormonism to share Jesus. What makes certain LDS teachings appealing to people. Why curiosity and good questions are often more effective than arguments and debates. What Mike and Wayne learned from witnessing door-to-door in Idaho Falls. Why planting a gospel seed can be a successful witnessing conversation. How witnessing to others can strengthen and challenge your own faith. Why every Christian who knows their sin and knows their Savior is more prepared to witness than they might realize. This episode is an encouragement for Christians who want to share their faith but feel nervous, inexperienced, or afraid of saying the wrong thing. You don’t need to know everything about Mormonism before you begin. Listen. Ask questions. Care about the person in front of you. And when God gives you the opportunity, share the simple and beautiful truth you already know: we are sinners, Christ has paid for our sins, and eternal life is His free gift.Not every conversation will end with someone agreeing with you or coming to church. Sometimes you simply plant a seed and trust God to make it grow. As Mike encourages listeners, count every conversation as a win and keep learning along the way.Music used in this episode under license. License code: BSIPX0EWJ87RCGZL Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Esther
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring the book of Esther. As Latter-day Saints study this book in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage the same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. Esther is a story of hidden identity, palace intrigue, deadly danger, and an incredible reversal. Although God's name is never mentioned, His providence is evident on every page as He preserves His covenant people through seemingly ordinary events. From Esther's rise to queen, to Mordecai's faithfulness, to Haman's downfall, every detail unfolds according to God's sovereign plan to preserve the people through whom the promised Messiah would come. The episode focuses on a familiar lesson often drawn from Esther: having the courage to do what is right. While Scripture certainly commends Esther's courage, the conversation looks beyond her example to the deeper reality that she, like every believer, was weak, fearful, and in need of God's grace. Ultimately, Esther points us not to finding hidden courage within ourselves, but to the perfect faithfulness of Jesus Christ. In this episode, you'll hear: How God's providence quietly directs every event in the book of Esther. Why Esther's hesitation reveals the same fears and struggles found in every sinner. The difference between using Esther as a moral example and seeing how she points to Christ. Why God's acceptance is never based on personal courage, obedience, or worthiness. How Jesus identified Himself with condemned sinners far more completely than Esther ever could. What Hebrews 4 teaches about confidently approaching God's throne through Christ alone. The difference between biblical assurance and confidence rooted in personal worthiness. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights the contrast between Esther's uncertain approach to King Xerxes and the believer's confident access to God through Jesus Christ. Esther entered the king's presence not knowing whether she would live or die. Christians, however, approach God's throne with confidence because Jesus has already borne their judgment, fulfilled God's law, and secured full acceptance through His perfect righteousness. This episode reminds listeners that the greatest comfort found in Esther is not that we can become courageous enough for God to use us. It is that God remains faithful even when His people are weak. Because Christ is worthy, forgiven sinners can rest in His finished work, confidently proclaim the gospel, and trust that God delights to work through imperfect people for His glory. Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Ezra and Nehemiah
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. After decades of exile, God moves the heart of King Cyrus to send His people home. The temple is rebuilt, Jerusalem's walls are restored, and God's Word is publicly proclaimed once again. Yet behind every human accomplishment stands a greater reality: God is faithfully keeping His promises and preserving the people through whom the promised Savior would come. The episode focuses on a common theme in LDS teaching materials: "The house of the Lord is a place of joy." While affirming the joy surrounding the rebuilding of the temple, the conversation explores what the Old Testament temple was ultimately designed to teach—and how it points beyond itself to Jesus Christ. In this episode, you'll hear: Why the rebuilding of the temple was ultimately about God's faithfulness to His promises. What the Old Testament temple revealed about God's holiness and humanity's sinfulness. How the sacrifices and priesthood pointed forward to Christ's once-for-all sacrifice. The difference between biblical confidence before God and confidence based on personal worthiness or covenant keeping. Why Jesus is the true Temple, the perfect High Priest, and the final sacrifice for sin. How Hebrews 10 explains believers' confidence to enter God's presence through Christ alone. Why good works flow from God's grace rather than earning His acceptance. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights Nehemiah 8, where the people weep as God's law exposes their sin. Rather than leaving them in despair, Scripture points them to God's mercy and ultimately to the greater work Jesus would accomplish. Through His life, death, and resurrection, Christ did not simply make it possible for sinners to become worthy someday—He accomplished everything necessary to bring them confidently into God's presence. This episode reminds listeners that the restored temple was never the final destination. It was a shadow pointing to Jesus Christ, the true Temple and perfect Savior. Because of His finished work, believers do not place their confidence in ceremonies, covenants, or personal progress, but in the completed redemption won through Christ's blood.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Inconsistent Kings
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring 2 Chronicles 14–20, 26, and 30. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. These chapters follow the reigns of Asa, Jehoshaphat, Uzziah, and Hezekiah, highlighting both faithful reforms and tragic failures. Time and again, the kings experience God's blessing when they seek Him, yet they also reveal how quickly human hearts turn to pride, self-reliance, and misplaced trust. Even the godliest kings prove unable to trust the Lord perfectly. The episode focuses on a common theme in LDS teaching materials: "Trusting in God will bring me peace." While Christians wholeheartedly affirm that truth, the conversation asks a deeper question: What does it really mean to trust God—and where can lasting peace actually be found? In this episode, you'll hear: How Asa's life demonstrates both faithful dependence on God and the danger of trusting human wisdom. Why even the best kings of Judah failed to trust the Lord perfectly. The difference between biblical peace and confidence rooted in personal performance. How fear, anxiety, and self-reliance expose our struggle to trust God's promises. Why true peace cannot be found in our obedience or worthiness. How Romans 5 and Romans 8 proclaim peace with God through Jesus Christ. The difference between trusting Christ's finished work and trusting our own spiritual progress. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also emphasizes that while Christians often struggle with fear, doubt, and anxiety, their ultimate peace does not rest on the strength of their faith but on the object of their faith. Jesus Christ has already reconciled sinners to God through His life, death, and resurrection, giving believers complete confidence that there is now no condemnation for those who are in Him. This episode reminds listeners that lasting peace is not found by becoming worthy enough for God. It is found in trusting the Savior who has already accomplished everything necessary for our salvation. Because Christ has reconciled us to the Father, Christians can face every uncertainty—including death itself—with confidence in His finished work rather than their own.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Elisha and Naaman
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring 2 Kings 2–7. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.These chapters record the transition from Elijah’s ministry to Elisha’s, highlighting God's continued faithfulness through miraculous works. Elisha parts the Jordan River, purifies poisoned water, raises the dead, heals Naaman of leprosy, and repeatedly demonstrates that the Lord alone is the source of life, healing, and salvation.The episode focuses on the account of Naaman, Elisha, and Gehazi, asking an important question: Why did Elisha refuse Naaman’s payment? While LDS teaching materials often emphasize humility and obedience through Naaman’s healing, this conversation points to a deeper truth—that God’s greatest gifts cannot be earned or purchased but are freely given by His grace.In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Naaman’s healing was ultimately an act of God's grace rather than a reward for obedience. The difference between biblical grace and the idea that salvation must be earned or progressed toward. How Gehazi’s response reveals the natural tendency to believe God's gifts should be paid for. Why salvation is received through faith in Christ rather than through human worthiness. How Naaman’s cleansing points forward to the complete forgiveness found in Jesus Christ. What Romans 3 teaches about justification by grace through faith. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights the beautiful picture of the gospel found in Naaman’s story. Just as Naaman could not purchase his cleansing from leprosy, sinners cannot purchase forgiveness or righteousness before God. Christ has already paid the full price through His life, death, and resurrection, offering complete forgiveness as a free gift to all who trust in Him.This episode reminds listeners that the Christian life is not about earning God's favor but receiving His undeserved mercy. Through Jesus Christ, we are washed clean—not because we deserved it or paid for it, but because our Savior accomplished everything necessary for our salvation and freely gives His righteousness to all who believe.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Elijah
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring 1 Kings 12–13 and 17–22. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.These chapters reveal the tragic consequences of Israel’s divided kingdom. Following Solomon’s reign, the nation fractures under Rehoboam and Jeroboam. Idolatry spreads, wicked rulers rise to power, and figures like Ahab and Jezebel lead God’s people further from the truth. Yet in the midst of rebellion and spiritual darkness, God faithfully sends His prophet Elijah to proclaim His Word and call people back to Himself.The episode focuses on a theme often highlighted in LDS teaching materials: “The Lord often speaks in quiet, simple ways.” While Christians agree that God speaks through humble means, the conversation explores an important question: Where has God promised to speak to us today?In this episode, you’ll hear: Why the divided kingdom reveals humanity’s ongoing rebellion against God. How Elijah’s ministry demonstrates God’s faithfulness in times of widespread unbelief. The difference between biblical confidence in God’s Word and seeking personal revelation through feelings and impressions. Why Scripture presents the Bible as God’s primary means of speaking to His people today. How the prophets of Baal illustrate the futility of trying to earn divine attention. What Elijah’s experience teaches about trusting God’s promises rather than subjective experiences. How Jesus pointed His followers to Moses and the Prophets as the foundation for faith. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights Jesus’ encounter with the disciples on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24. Rather than immediately revealing Himself, Jesus opened the Scriptures and showed how the entire Old Testament pointed to Him. In the same way, Christians find confidence not in changing emotions or private impressions, but in the unchanging Word of God that proclaims Christ.This episode reminds listeners that God has not left His people guessing. Through the simple and powerful words of Scripture, God reveals His character, exposes our sin, strengthens our faith, and points us to Jesus Christ—the Savior promised throughout the Old Testament and proclaimed throughout the Bible.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in The Old Testament: The Failure of David
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring 2 Samuel 11–12 and selections from 1 Kings 3, 6–9, and 11. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. These chapters contain some of the most sobering accounts in the Old Testament. David, the king described as a man after God’s own heart, falls into adultery, deception, and murder. Solomon begins his reign with wisdom, humility, and devotion to the Lord, but later turns away through idolatry and divided loyalties. Together, these stories reveal both the greatness of God’s gifts and the devastating reality of human sin. The episode focuses especially on David’s confrontation with the prophet Nathan and the powerful words, “You are the man.” Through God’s law, David is exposed as guilty before the Lord. Yet in the midst of judgment comes an astonishing declaration of grace: “The Lord has taken away your sin.” In this episode, you’ll hear: Why the account of David and Bathsheba is ultimately a story about sin, guilt, and grace. How Nathan’s confrontation reveals the purpose of God’s law. Why all people stand guilty before God’s perfect standard. What Psalm 51 teaches about true repentance and dependence on God’s mercy. How Solomon’s rise and fall reveal the danger of divided devotion. The difference between biblical faith and LDS understandings of faith and worthiness. How Romans 3 explains justification, redemption, and forgiveness through Christ. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights a crucial question: How could a just God take away David’s sins? David deserved judgment. He could not undo what he had done, nor could he offer a sacrifice sufficient to remove his guilt. His only hope was God’s mercy—and that mercy ultimately points forward to Jesus Christ, who would bear the punishment for sinners and provide the righteousness they could never earn. This episode reminds listeners that the Bible is not a collection of moral success stories. Even David and Solomon failed. The good news is not that God saves worthy people, but that He justifies sinners through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Because Christ paid the price for sin, God can declare guilty people forgiven, righteous, and free.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Christ, The True King
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring 1 Samuel 8–16. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. These chapters mark a major turning point in Israel’s history. Tired of being ruled through judges and prophets, the people demand a king like the nations around them. God grants their request and gives them Saul—a king who looked impressive by worldly standards. Yet Saul’s reign quickly reveals that outward appearances and human strength cannot accomplish what God desires. By chapter 16, the Lord rejects Saul and raises up David, the king after His own heart. The episode focuses on a key theme highlighted in LDS teaching materials: “Jesus Christ is my King.” While Christians wholeheartedly confess Christ as King, the conversation explores a deeper question: What does it mean to live under the rule of a perfectly holy and righteous King? In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Israel’s demand for a king ultimately revealed a rejection of God’s rule. The difference between earthly kings and Jesus Christ, the perfect King. How LDS teachings often approach Christ’s kingship through the lens of personal obedience and agency. Why God’s law exposes our rebellion rather than proving our faithfulness. How sin is ultimately treason against our rightful King. Why none of us have perfectly obeyed Christ’s rule. How Jesus fulfilled the law and bore the penalty for our rebellion. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights the beautiful contrast at the heart of the gospel. The King we rebelled against is the very King who came to rescue us. Jesus did not simply show us how to live; He took our guilt upon Himself, suffered the punishment we deserved, and clothed us in His righteousness through His death and resurrection. This episode reminds listeners that the good news of Christianity is not that we have successfully made Christ King through our obedience. Rather, Christ is already King—and in His mercy, He has rescued rebels like us. Through faith in Him, sinners receive forgiveness, righteousness, and an eternal place in His kingdom, not because they earned it, but because the King Himself paid the price. Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Ruth, Hannah and Samuel
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, the Truth in Love Ministry team continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by exploring the book of Ruth alongside 1 Samuel 1–7. As Latter-day Saints study these passages in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same stories while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.These chapters contain deeply personal stories of grief, weakness, prayer, redemption, and God’s providence. Ruth and Naomi return to Bethlehem empty and vulnerable after devastating loss. Hannah pours out her sorrow before the Lord in prayer. Samuel is called by God during a spiritually dark time in Israel’s history. In every account, the focus ultimately turns away from human strength and toward God’s mercy and provision.The episode highlights how LDS teaching materials often emphasize moral examples such as kindness, loyalty, prayer, obedience, and listening for God’s voice. While affirming those good themes, the conversation goes deeper by showing how these stories ultimately reveal humanity’s need for a Redeemer and God’s gracious action toward helpless sinners.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why Ruth’s story is ultimately about redemption rather than merely kindness and loyalty.How Boaz serves as a picture of Christ, the true Redeemer who pays the cost for sinners.The difference between biblical grace and the idea that we must “do all we can do” first.How Hannah’s prayer demonstrates dependence on God rather than spiritual self-sufficiency.Why prayer is not bargaining with God, but crying out to Him in weakness and need.What Samuel’s calling teaches about God speaking clearly through His Word.Why faith rests on Christ and His promises—not confidence in our own covenant faithfulness.How Israel’s misuse of the Ark warns against trusting religious activity instead of the Lord Himself.Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.The episode also emphasizes that Ruth, Hannah, and Israel all share something in common: they could not save themselves. Ruth needed a redeemer. Hannah needed mercy. Israel needed deliverance. In each case, God provided what they could not provide on their own.This episode reminds listeners that Jesus Christ is the greater Boaz—the true Redeemer who does not merely make salvation possible, but fully accomplishes it. We do not come to Him with worthiness or payment in hand. Like Ruth, we come empty-handed, trusting entirely in what our Redeemer has already done for us through His life, death, and resurrection.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Judges
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, the Truth in Love Ministry team continues the Christ in the Old Testament series by turning to the book of Judges. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.The book of Judges is filled with rebellion, idolatry, oppression, violence, and repeated failure. Again and again, Israel turns away from the Lord, suffers under oppression, cries out for help, and is rescued by judges whom God raises up. Yet despite temporary deliverance, the cycle continues as God’s people repeatedly abandon Him.Rather than presenting the judges primarily as moral examples to imitate, this episode highlights the deeper message running throughout the book: God’s mercy toward undeserving sinners. The focus is not on Israel finally becoming faithful enough, but on the Lord remaining faithful to His promises despite His people’s continual rebellion.In this episode, you’ll hear: Why the book of Judges is ultimately about God’s mercy rather than human heroism. The repeating cycle of sin, oppression, deliverance, and rebellion throughout Israel’s history. How LDS teachings often emphasize covenant faithfulness and obedience as conditions for blessing. Why Israel’s rescue was grounded in God’s compassion—not their worthiness. How the judges point forward to a greater and final deliverer. Why temporary earthly rescue could never solve humanity’s deeper problem of sin and death. How Jesus fulfills what the judges could only foreshadow. A practical witnessing question to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also emphasizes that the judges themselves were deeply flawed and imperfect. Even the best deliverers could only provide temporary relief from earthly enemies. The book leaves readers longing for someone greater—a Savior who defeats sin, death, and the devil forever.This episode reminds listeners that God does not save people because they finally become worthy enough. Like Israel, all people are sinners in need of mercy. Yet God, in His compassion and faithfulness, sent Jesus Christ—the perfect deliverer who obeyed in our place, died for our sins, and rose again so that all who trust in Him receive eternal rescue by grace alone.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Joshua
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Aaron, Caleb, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through the book of Joshua. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.The book of Joshua recounts Israel’s entrance into the Promised Land after the death of Moses. God parts the Jordan River, the walls of Jericho fall, Rahab hides the spies, and the land is conquered and divided among God’s people. Throughout the book, Joshua repeatedly calls Israel to remain faithful to the Lord who delivered them.The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize conditional blessings, obedience, and covenant faithfulness, while Scripture continually points to something deeper: God’s mercy toward undeserving people and His faithfulness to keep His promises despite human failure.A major focus of the episode is the story of Rahab, whose rescue becomes a powerful picture of salvation by faith. The team wrestles honestly with passages like James 2 and Hebrews 11, showing how good works flow from faith rather than earning salvation before God.In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Israel received the Promised Land because of God’s promise—not their righteousness. The difference between biblical obedience and LDS ideas of conditional salvation. How Rahab’s story highlights salvation by faith alone. What James 2 means when it speaks about faith and works together. Why Christians are justified before God by faith, while works reveal faith before others. How the gospel creates good works rather than depending on them. The comfort Christians have knowing God remains faithful even when His people fail. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also emphasizes that faith itself is God’s gift. Rahab’s actions did not create her salvation; they revealed trust in the God who saves. Just as Rahab was welcomed into God’s covenant people by faith, sinners today are welcomed and declared righteous through faith in Jesus Christ alone.This episode reminds listeners that the story of Joshua is not ultimately about human faithfulness or conquest, but about a gracious God who keeps His promises. From Rahab’s rescue to Israel’s inheritance, the book points forward to Jesus Christ—the true Savior who gives an eternal inheritance not earned by works, but received by grace through faith.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Numbers
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Ethan, Noah, Caleb, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through selected chapters in the book of Numbers. As Latter-day Saints follow these readings in their Come, Follow Me study, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. In these chapters, the Israelites continue their journey through the wilderness, marked by a repeated cycle of complaint, rebellion, and doubt. Again and again, God’s people question His promises—even after witnessing His provision—while God responds with both justice and mercy, disciplining their sin yet continuing to provide for their needs. The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize faith as action, personal agency, and conditional blessings, while Scripture reveals something deeper: a faithful God who keeps His promises despite human failure. From the spies’ report at the Promised Land to the bronze serpent lifted in the wilderness, these accounts ultimately point beyond human effort to God’s saving work. In this episode, you’ll hear: How the Israelites’ repeated rebellion highlights humanity’s sinful nature. The difference between biblical faith and LDS views of faith as obedience and effort. Why God’s promises are not grounded in human performance, but in His faithfulness. How the concept of ongoing revelation and authority shapes LDS interpretation. Why words like faith, works, and law can carry very different meanings. How the bronze serpent in Numbers points directly to Jesus in John 3. The difference between salvation by looking to Christ and salvation by human action. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also highlights one of the clearest gospel pictures in the Old Testament: the bronze serpent. While some may see the act of “looking” as something people must do, Scripture points to something greater—the object of faith. Just as the serpent was lifted up for the people’s healing, so Jesus was lifted up on the cross, accomplishing salvation for all who believe. This episode reminds listeners that the story of Numbers is not about people gradually becoming faithful enough for God. Instead, it reveals a God who remains faithful to His promises, even when His people fail—ultimately pointing to Jesus Christ, who was lifted up so that sinners might be declared not guilty and receive eternal life through faith alone. Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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LDS General Conference Reaction 2026
In this special episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, the Truth in Love Ministry team—including Mark and Molly Parsons, Pastor Wayne Uhlhorn, and interns Lilly, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—come together to reflect on the April 2026 General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After listening to multiple conference talks, the group shares key takeaways and equips Christians to engage these teachings with clarity and compassion. From messages on peace, service, eternal marriage, and becoming more like Christ, the team highlights how LDS leaders use familiar Christian language while often communicating very different meanings. Throughout the episode, the conversation focuses on how to recognize these differences and respond in a way that points back to the finished work of Jesus. Each speaker brings a unique perspective, walking through specific talks and offering practical insights for witnessing. Whether discussing Peter’s failures, the burden of obedience, or the motivation behind loving others, the team consistently brings the conversation back to the central question: Is the focus on what Christ has done—or on what we must do? In this episode, you’ll hear: Key themes from the April 2026 General Conference and why they matter for witnessing. How LDS teachings often emphasize progression, obedience, and personal effort. The difference between biblical law and gospel and LDS approaches to Scripture. Why familiar words like grace, forgiveness, and salvation can carry different meanings. How to respond to messages about peace, service, and eternal marriage with biblical clarity. Practical ways to start conversations using General Conference as a bridge. Real-life witnessing insights from conversations with LDS friends, neighbors, and missionaries. If you’d like to explore the talks discussed in this episode, you can find the full General Conference sessions here: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference The episode also emphasizes the importance of listening carefully and asking thoughtful questions. Rather than approaching conversations with debate in mind, the team models how to engage respectfully while still addressing the deeper theological differences that ultimately point to Christ alone. This episode reminds listeners that opportunities for witnessing are often right in front of us. Events like General Conference give Christians a clear window into what their LDS friends are hearing and thinking—creating natural starting points for gospel conversations centered on Jesus’ finished work.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: The 10 Commandments
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Ethan, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, covering key sections of Exodus 19–24 and 31–34. As Latter-day Saints follow these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.In these chapters, God gives the Ten Commandments, establishes his covenant with Israel, and reveals his holiness on Mount Sinai. Yet almost immediately, the people turn to idolatry in the golden calf incident, exposing the depth of human sin and the impossibility of achieving righteousness through obedience.The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize commandment-keeping, covenant faithfulness, and progression toward godhood. In contrast, they highlight what Scripture reveals about the true purpose of the law—not as a ladder to climb toward God, but as a mirror that exposes sin and drives us to a Savior.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why the Ten Commandments reveal God’s perfect standard—not a path to earning salvation. How the golden calf incident exposes humanity’s constant failure and need for grace. The difference between biblical forgiveness and LDS ideas of forgiveness through effort and consequences. What Exodus 34:6–7 teaches about God’s justice, mercy, and steadfast love. How God’s justice and mercy meet perfectly at the cross of Christ. Why Jesus intensifies the law in Matthew 5 and what that reveals about our need for a Savior. How Christ fulfills the law perfectly and gives his righteousness to believers. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also emphasizes that while God does not leave sin unpunished, he himself provides the payment. At the cross, Jesus takes the full weight of the law’s demands, so that sinners can be fully forgiven—not by their obedience, but by his finished work.This episode reminds listeners that the law was never meant to be a ladder to heaven. Instead, it shows us our need for Jesus—the One who is perfect in our place, who pays for our sin, and who gives us his righteousness as a gift.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: God's Provision to Israel
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, and Ethan—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Exodus 14–18. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same sections while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel. In these chapters, God delivers His people through the Red Sea, defeats Pharaoh and his army, and provides for Israel in the wilderness with water from a rock and bread from heaven. From miraculous rescue to daily provision, these events reveal a God who saves and sustains His people entirely by His grace. The interns examine how LDS teachings often emphasize personal growth, obedience, and “learning heaven,” while Scripture highlights something different: dependence on God’s provision. Through the stories of manna and water in the wilderness, they show how God provides for His people not because of their faithfulness, but in spite of their complaints and failures. In this episode, you’ll hear: How the Red Sea crossing displays God’s complete and gracious deliverance. Why the Israelites’ complaints highlight God’s mercy—not their worthiness. The difference between biblical dependence on God and LDS ideas of progression and obedience. How the manna and water from the rock point forward to Jesus as the true source of life. Why Jesus calls Himself the Bread of Life and Living Water in John 4 and John 6. How eternal life is received through faith—not earned through effort or growth. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The episode also emphasizes that the focus of these accounts is not on what God’s people must do, but on what God has already done and continues to provide. Just as God fed Israel in the wilderness, Jesus offers Himself as the true and lasting nourishment—the One who satisfies completely and gives eternal life to all who believe. This episode reminds listeners that the Christian life is not about progressing toward God through obedience, but about trusting in what God has already provided in Christ. In Him, we are fully nourished, fully satisfied, and fully secure.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ: Easter
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—pause their Christ in the Old Testament series for a special Easter episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, focusing on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and what it truly accomplished. In this episode, the interns begin with a shared foundation: both biblical Christians and Latter-day Saints agree that Jesus physically rose from the dead. The tomb was empty, Christ appeared to His disciples, and He lives today. But while there is agreement on the event itself, the conversation quickly turns to a deeper question—what did the resurrection actually accomplish? The team contrasts the LDS understanding of the resurrection as a universal gift of immortality with the biblical teaching that Christ’s death and resurrection fully accomplish salvation. They emphasize that the resurrection cannot be separated from the cross, where Jesus paid for sin in full, and show how the empty tomb is God’s declaration that the work is finished. In this episode, you’ll hear: What biblical Christians and Latter-day Saints agree on about the resurrection. Why the real question is not if Jesus rose, but what His resurrection accomplished. The difference between resurrection as universal immortality and resurrection as completed salvation. How the cross and resurrection work together to secure forgiveness and righteousness. Why “It is finished” means there is nothing left for us to earn before God. What it means to be justified—declared not guilty—through Christ’s resurrection. Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family. The interns also explore how the resurrection gives Christians complete confidence before God. Because Jesus lived, died, and rose again, believers are not left wondering if they have done enough. Instead, they stand forgiven, justified, and secure—knowing that Christ has already accomplished everything necessary for their salvation. This episode reminds listeners that Easter is not just about new life in a general sense, but about a finished victory. Jesus’ resurrection is the guarantee that sin is paid for, death is defeated, and eternal life is secured for all who trust in Him.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Pharaoh, Plagues and Passover
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Ethan, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Exodus 7–18. As Latter-day Saints follow these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians engage those same sections while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.In these chapters, Moses and Aaron stand before Pharaoh as God unleashes the ten plagues on Egypt, culminating in the dramatic events of the Passover. As Pharaoh repeatedly hardens his heart, God displays His power, justice, and faithfulness—ultimately delivering His people from slavery. But beneath these familiar stories lies a deeper message about the condition of the human heart and the need for divine rescue.The interns explore the tension between Pharaoh’s hardened heart and God’s sovereign action, emphasizing what Scripture teaches about sin, judgment, and God’s control over salvation. At the same time, they highlight one of the clearest pictures of Christ in the Old Testament: the Passover lamb.In this episode, you’ll hear:What Scripture teaches about Pharaoh hardening his heart—and God hardening it.The difference between biblical teaching and LDS views of agency and free will.Why all people begin with hearts hardened against God.How God’s judgment and mercy are both on display in the Exodus account.Why the Passover lamb is one of the clearest pictures of Jesus in the Old Testament.How the blood of the lamb points directly to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross.Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.The episode also highlights how the Israelites were not saved by their obedience, but by the blood of the lamb—a powerful picture of how sinners are saved through Christ alone. Just as the destroyer passed over the homes marked by blood, so God’s judgment passes over all who are covered by the blood of Jesus, the true Passover Lamb.This episode reminds listeners that salvation does not come from human effort or choice, but from God’s gracious action. The same God who delivered Israel from Egypt has delivered us from sin, death, and judgment through Jesus Christ—the Lamb who was slain so that we might live.
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: The Call of Moses
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, turning to the opening chapters of Exodus (1–6). As Latter-day Saints work through these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians walk alongside those discussions while pointing clearly to the biblical gospel. In these chapters, Israel’s situation becomes desperate. A new Pharaoh enslaves the Israelites, orders the death of Hebrew baby boys, and tightens his grip as their numbers grow. Yet even in the midst of oppression, God is quietly preserving His promise. Moses’ life is spared, he is raised in Pharaoh’s household, and decades later God calls him from the burning bush to deliver His people from slavery. The interns examine how this section highlights God’s holiness, human sinfulness, and the need for a true deliverer. While Moses is chosen to lead Israel out of Egypt, his hesitation, doubt, and imperfection remind listeners that he is not the ultimate hero of the story. Instead, Moses points forward to a greater deliverer—Jesus Christ—who accomplishes the perfect salvation Moses could only foreshadow. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why the Exodus story is ultimately about God’s faithfulness to His promises.The difference between biblical deliverance and LDS ideas of salvation.How Moses’ weakness and reluctance highlight God’s power and grace.What the burning bush teaches about God’s holiness and human sinfulness.Why true reverence comes from encountering the holy God, not from human effort.How Moses’ role as deliverer points forward to the greater deliverer, Jesus Christ.Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.This episode reminds listeners that humanity cannot climb its way up to God. Standing before a holy God exposes our sin and our need for rescue. But the same God who called Moses to deliver Israel ultimately sent Jesus Christ—the perfect deliverer who lived for us, died for us, and rose again so that sinners could stand confidently in God’s presence.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!10 Words to Know Before Sharing the Gospel with Mormons: https://tilm.org/10-words-to-know-before-sharing-the-gospel-with-mormons/
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Joseph Pt. 2
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Aaron, Ethan, Noah, and Caleb—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, exploring the second half of the Joseph narrative in Genesis 42–50. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians walk alongside those discussions while pointing clearly to the biblical gospel. In this section of Genesis, Joseph’s brothers travel to Egypt during a devastating famine, unaware that the powerful ruler they stand before is the brother they once sold into slavery. Through a series of tests, Joseph reveals his identity and ultimately offers forgiveness rather than revenge. The story builds toward a powerful reminder that God was working through every hardship—not only to preserve lives during the famine, but to preserve the promise of the Savior. The interns examine how Joseph’s forgiveness flows from faith in God’s promise rather than from a desire for personal healing or progress. They also explore how the story ultimately centers not on Joseph as a moral example, but on God’s grace in preserving the line through which Jesus would come. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Joseph chose forgiveness instead of revenge, even when he had the power to punish his brothers.The difference between biblical forgiveness and LDS ideas of forgiveness as personal progress.Why Joseph’s story is not primarily about moral example but about God’s promise.How God preserved the line of the Savior through Jacob’s family despite their sin.Why Judah—an unlikely and undeserving choice—receives the promise of the coming Messiah.How Old Testament believers lived by faith in the same promise fulfilled in Christ.Practical questions to help guide conversations with LDS friends and family about forgiveness and grace.This episode reminds listeners that the story of Joseph is ultimately about God’s faithfulness to His promise. Even through betrayal, suffering, and broken families, God was preserving the line through which Jesus would come—the Savior who pays our debt, forgives our sins, and secures the eternal inheritance promised to all who trust in Him.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Joseph Pt.1
The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Genesis 37–41 and the beginning of Joseph’s story. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to use Joseph’s life to share the biblical gospel. From sibling jealousy and betrayal to false accusation and imprisonment, Joseph’s story seems like a spiral of injustice. Yet through every twist and turn, one truth remains constant: the Lord was with Joseph. God preserves His promise—even through family dysfunction, suffering, and human sin. The interns trace the promise of the Savior from Genesis 3 through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, showing how Joseph’s rise to power in Egypt ultimately serves a greater purpose: preserving the line through which Christ would come. What appears to be chaos is actually divine faithfulness at work. In this episode, you’ll hear: How Joseph’s suffering fits into God’s larger redemptive plan.Why “choosing the right” did not immediately result in earthly blessing for Joseph.The difference between biblical suffering and LDS ideas of obedience-based blessing.Why God reveals Himself—and where He promises to do so today.How Joseph’s life points forward to Christ, who suffers unjustly to save many.Comfort for Christians who suffer without knowing “why.”Practical ways to discuss revelation, suffering, and blessing with LDS friends and family.This episode reminds listeners that God’s faithfulness is not measured by present comfort. Joseph’s imprisonment did not mean abandonment, and suffering is not proof of divine displeasure. The same God who preserved Joseph preserves His gospel promise in Christ—the One who bore suffering, overcame death, and guarantees eternal joy beyond this life.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Abraham
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Aaron, Ethan, Noah, and Caleb—continue their Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Genesis 18–22. As Latter-day Saints follow the Come, Follow Me reading plan, this episode helps Christians engage those same chapters and clearly see how they point to Jesus Christ.In this section of Genesis, the team explores Abraham’s intercession for Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot’s rescue from destruction, the sobering account of Lot’s family, Abraham’s repeated failures, the long-awaited birth of Isaac, and the powerful testing on Mount Moriah. Throughout it all, one theme remains clear: God’s faithfulness does not depend on human perfection.The interns wrestle honestly with difficult passages—Lot’s hesitation, Lot’s wife, Abraham’s deception, and the testing of Isaac—while highlighting the gospel thread woven through every chapter. From the mercy shown to Lot, to the substitute ram caught in the thicket, to the promised offspring through whom all nations will be blessed, the story repeatedly echoes the life, death, and resurrection of Christ.In this episode, you’ll hear:How Lot’s rescue reveals God’s mercy despite human weakness.Why righteousness is rooted in faith, not flawless behavior.How God works good even through deeply broken situations.The difference between biblical testing and LDS views of mortal probation.The powerful parallels between Isaac and Jesus on Mount Moriah.Why the ram as substitute points directly to Christ as our sacrifice.How Genesis 22 reinforces God’s unconditional promise of blessing through the promised Seed.Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.This episode reminds listeners that the story of Abraham is not ultimately about heroic obedience, but about a faithful God who keeps His promises. From Sodom to Moriah, from Isaac’s birth to the substitute sacrifice, these chapters point forward to Jesus—the true promised Son who carries the wood, becomes the substitute, and through whom all nations are blessed.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Abram's Righteousness
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—reunite on the Witnessing Christ Podcast to continue their series, Christ in the Old Testament, by turning to the story of Abram in Genesis chapters 12–17. As Latter-day Saints study this section of Scripture, this episode helps Christians walk alongside those readings and clearly see how God’s promises point forward to Jesus Christ. In this episode, the interns focus on Abram before his name is changed to Abraham, highlighting God’s unilateral promises and the covenant that depends entirely on God’s action—not Abram’s obedience. They trace God’s repeated “I will” statements, showing how Abram is chosen not because of his faithfulness or righteousness, but purely by God’s grace. Listeners are taken honestly through Abram’s failures—his fear, deception, and attempts to take God’s promises into his own hands—before arriving at one of the most important verses in the Old Testament: Genesis 15:6, where Abram believes the Lord, and God credits it to him as righteousness. From there, the conversation connects directly to the New Testament explanation in Romans 4, where Paul shows that Abram’s righteousness comes by faith alone, apart from works. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why God’s covenant with Abram is a one-sided promise rooted in grace.How Abram’s sins highlight God’s faithfulness, not Abram’s worthiness.What it means for righteousness to be credited, not earned.Why faith is not a work, but trust in God’s promise.How Romans 4 clarifies Genesis 15 for Christians today.Key differences between biblical Christianity and LDS teachings on covenants, faith, and works.Practical questions to help point LDS friends and family to Christ in this section of Genesis.This episode reminds listeners that salvation has always been God’s work. Just as Abram was declared righteous by believing God’s promise, Christians today are declared righteous through faith in Jesus Christ—the promised Seed through whom all nations are blessed.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Introducing Pastor Wayne Uhlhorn
In this special episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Caleb and Aaron sit down with Pastor Wayne Uhlhorn to introduce him to the Truth in Love Ministry audience and share his heart for Christian witnessing. Recorded on Pastor Uhlhorn’s second day on the job, this conversation offers listeners a chance to get to know one of the newest leaders serving alongside the ministry.Pastor Uhlhorn reflects on decades of pastoral ministry across the country and his personal experience engaging members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—especially during his time serving congregations in the western United States. From preschool classrooms to neighborhood conversations, he shares how respectful dialogue, listening, and clear proclamation of the gospel shaped his passion for reaching LDS friends with Christ-centered truth.In this episode, you’ll hear:Pastor Uhlhorn’s background in pastoral ministry and church planting.How meaningful relationships with LDS families shaped his approach to witnessing.Why Truth in Love Ministry’s mission and direction compelled him to join the team.The importance of equipping local congregations to reach their LDS neighbors.Why law and gospel—not debate—must remain central in Christian witnessing.The need for compassion, patience, and a safe landing place for former Latter-day Saints.How Truth in Love resources help Christians speak with confidence and clarity.This episode highlights the heart behind Truth in Love Ministry: meeting people where they are, listening well, and pointing them to the comfort, assurance, and sufficiency of Jesus Christ. Pastor Uhlhorn’s story reminds listeners that effective witnessing flows from genuine care for people and confidence in the gospel that Jesus truly is enough.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Mission Trip Debrief: Arizona 2026
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Caleb, Ethan, and Noah—step away from the Christ in the Old Testament series for a special episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast to reflect on their recent mission trip to Gilbert, Arizona. Joined by students from Martin Luther College and several pastors, the team spent a week engaging members and missionaries of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, with the goal of planting gospel seeds and pointing people to the sufficiency of Christ.In this mission trip debrief, the interns share what it looked like to go door-to-door, engage in gospel conversations, and lovingly challenge LDS assumptions—not through debate, but through Scripture, storytelling, and patience. They unpack the biblical framework behind their outreach, especially the concepts of seed-planting, law and gospel, and “shelf items,” while reflecting on both the encouragements and discouragements that come with this kind of mission work.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why Truth in Love emphasizes seed planting rather than immediate results.How the Parable of the Sower shapes a biblical approach to evangelism.Why the Parable of the Prodigal Sons was central to their door-to-door conversations.How storytelling evangelism opens doors to gospel conversations without confrontation.What “breaking shelves” really means—and why Christ must remain when they fall.Honest reflections on doubt, discouragement, and trusting the Holy Spirit for growth.How this trip strengthened the interns’ own faith and understanding of grace.This episode reminds listeners that witnessing is not about visible success or instant conversions, but about faithfully proclaiming Christ and trusting God to work in His time. Whether planting the first seed, adding another link in the chain, or simply walking alongside someone with questions, God uses His Word to bring sinners from darkness into light.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: Noah and the Flood
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Caleb and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast by turning to one of the most well-known stories in Scripture: Noah and the Flood. As Latter-day Saints study this section of the Old Testament, this episode walks alongside those readings to show how the story of Noah is ultimately about God’s grace and the righteousness that comes by faith in Christ.In this episode, Caleb and Noah explore Genesis 6–9, addressing humanity’s deep corruption, God’s righteous judgment, and His merciful preservation of a remnant. They carefully unpack why Noah is described as “righteous” and “blameless,” showing from Scripture that Noah was not saved because of his obedience, but because of his faith in God’s promise. The ark itself becomes a powerful picture of salvation—God providing the means of rescue while shutting the door Himself.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why Scripture teaches that every human heart is corrupted by sin—including Noah’s.How Noah’s righteousness comes by faith, not works (Hebrews 11:7).The significance of God shutting Noah into the ark—judgment and grace at the same time.How the flood reveals God’s justice without undermining His mercy.Why God’s covenant with Noah is unilateral and grounded entirely in grace.How the rainbow points forward to Christ bearing God’s wrath in our place.Practical ways to discuss Noah, faith, and righteousness with LDS friends and family.This episode reminds listeners that Noah’s story is not ultimately about human obedience, but about a faithful God who saves sinners by grace. Just as Noah trusted in God’s promise, Christians today are declared righteous through faith in Jesus Christ—the true ark of salvation who rescues us from judgment and brings us safely into God’s presence.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: The Fall
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—continue their takeover of the Witnessing Christ Podcast with the next episode in their new series, Christ in the Old Testament. As Latter-day Saints work through the Old Testament this year, this series walks alongside those readings to show how every chapter ultimately points to Jesus Christ.In this episode, the interns turn to Genesis chapters 3–5, exploring the Fall into sin and its devastating consequences. They unpack Satan’s deception in the Garden, humanity’s loss of innocence, and the immediate effects of sin—shame, blame, separation, and death. But at the center of the Fall is not just bad news. In Genesis 3:15, God makes the first gospel promise, revealing that the Seed of the woman will crush the serpent’s head. The interns show how this promise points directly to Jesus, who comes to undo what Adam destroyed.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why the Fall is a tragic rebellion against God—not a necessary or “good” step forward.How Genesis 3:15 serves as the first clear promise of Christ in Scripture.What Scripture teaches about sin, death, and humanity’s separation from God.Key differences between biblical Christianity and LDS theology regarding the Fall.How Romans 5 explains Jesus as the Second Adam who reverses the curse of sin.Practical ways to use Genesis 3–5 to point LDS friends and family to Christ alone for salvation.This episode reminds listeners that while humanity fell into sin through Adam, God immediately stepped in with a promise of redemption. From the very beginning, salvation is God’s work—fulfilled in Jesus Christ, who restores what was lost in the Fall.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ in the Old Testament: In the Beginning...
The interns from Truth in Love Ministry—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—officially take over the Witnessing Christ Podcast to launch a brand-new series: Christ in the Old Testament. As Latter-day Saints study the Old Testament this year, this series walks alongside those readings to show how every page of Scripture points to Jesus Christ. In this kickoff episode, the interns dive into Genesis chapters 1 and 2, asking a bold but biblical question: Is Jesus really present in the very beginning? Drawing connections between Genesis and John 1, they show how Christ—the eternal Word—is active in creation, revealing the Triune God at work from the very first verse of the Bible. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why Genesis is not a fairy tale, but God’s true and purposeful beginning.How Jesus is present at creation, even though his name isn’t explicitly mentioned.What it truly means to be made in the image of God—and how that image is restored in Christ.Key differences between biblical Christianity and LDS theology regarding creation, Jesus, and humanity.How Genesis 1–2 lays the groundwork for grace, redemption, and the restored creation promised in Revelation.Practical ways to use these chapters to guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.This episode sets the foundation for the entire series, reminding listeners that the God who saves in Christ is the same God who spoke the universe into existence—and that the story of redemption begins “In the beginning.”Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Sinner Saint Pt.2
In this second and concluding episode on Sinner Saint: A Surprising Primer for the Christian Life, Pastor Mark Parsons is joined again by Molly, Noah, Caleb, Aaron, and Ethan to wrestle with the heart of the Christian life: what it really means to live as someone who is fully forgiven and still deeply flawed.This episode centers on the often-forgotten doctrine of imputation—the “great exchange” where Christ takes our sin and credits us with His righteousness—and why this truth is essential for assurance, comfort, and faithful witnessing to Latter-day Saints. From there, the conversation expands into sanctification, common myths about Christian growth, and what real transformation actually looks like in the life of a believer.Key themes include:Why imputation is a status, not a process—and how God truly sees us in Christ.How the gospel answers objections like “cheap grace” and the fear of “couch-potato Christianity.”Why sanctification is God’s work, not a measurable self-improvement project.The difference between growing up spiritually and growing down—deeper into reliance on Jesus.How compassion, not judgment, should define the church’s response to sin.Why wrestling with God, ongoing struggle, and even pain can be signs of spiritual life—not failure.The episode closes with the comforting reminder that while Christians may be great sinners, we have an even greater Savior—and that Jesus truly is the Friend of sinners.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Sinner Saint Pt.1
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Pastor Mark Parsons is joined by Molly, Caleb, Aaron, Noah, and Ethan to discuss Sinner Saint: A Surprising Primer for the Christian Life by Pastor Luke Kjolhaug (or as the interns say—however you pronounce it!). Together, they unpack one of the most honest and freeing truths of the Christian faith: that believers are simultaneously sinners and saints (simul justus et peccator).Through personal stories, Scripture, and laughter, the group explores:Why recognizing our sin and our sainthood at the same time is crucial for understanding grace.How Paul’s struggle in Romans 7 captures every Christian’s daily reality.Why “progress” in faith isn’t about becoming sinless, but about trusting Christ more deeply.The difference between how Latter-day Saints and biblical Christians understand the word saint—and why that difference matters.What the lives of Moses, Abraham, David, and Paul teach us about God using deeply flawed people for His glory.How a proper view of Law and Gospel helps us rest in what Christ has done, not what we’re trying to prove.This episode reminds us that being a Christian isn’t about looking perfect—it’s about being honest about our brokenness and clinging to the One who calls us righteous.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Law and Gospel – Pt. 2
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, Pastor Mark Parsons reunites with Molly, Caleb, Noah, Ethan, and Aaron to dive into the Gospel half of Law & Gospel—moving from God’s “alien work” (law) to his “proper work” (good news about a Person). Together they explore how the gospel is not advice or a checklist, but news—objective, finished, and for you. They unpack: Gospel as News (not advice): The message comes from outside us and announces what Christ has already done.Gospel as Person: Jesus isn’t mainly an example; he’s the Substitute who fulfilled the law, bled, died, and rose.Gospel as Gift: Why unconditional grace offends our need for control—and why that’s exactly what sets us free.What the Gospel Gives: Forgiveness that’s paid for, justification that’s declared, and comfort that’s objective (not based on feelings).Fruits of the Gospel (not the law): Humility, receptivity, gratitude, love, spontaneity, humor, and real freedom—produced by the Spirit, not by white-knuckled effort.Witnessing to Latter-day Saints: Clear contrasts between “laws of the gospel” and the Bible’s announcement that “It is finished.”Come for the theology; stay for the freedom that lets you stop performing and start resting in Christ—and then love your neighbor with joy.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Law and Gospel Pt.1
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, host Pastor Mark Parsons is joined by Molly, Caleb, Noah, Ethan, and Aaron to explore one of Christianity’s most important distinctions — the difference between God’s Law and His Gospel — and how properly understanding that difference changes everything, from personal faith to witnessing to Latter-day Saints.The team explores:How the Law exposes our sin and our illusion of control, showing that “we can’t — and that’s the point.”The “Big L” Law (God’s commands) vs. the “little l” laws of culture, performance, and perfectionism.Why even good things (like Bible reading or moral behavior) can become crushing when turned into metrics of worth.How the Law always accuses — even when we think we’re “pulling it off.”Why recognizing our deadness is not bad news but the very thing that prepares us for life in Christ.Using humor, personal stories, and deep biblical insight, the interns discuss how the Law leaves us desperate — not to destroy us, but to drive us to the One who brings life.Next week, they’ll continue the conversation with the Gospel section — the “good news from across the sea.”Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Keep Showing Up Pt. 2
In this follow-up episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, host Pastor Parsons continues the conversation with evangelist interns Noah, Caleb, Aaron, and Ethan as they conclude their discussion on Keep Showing Up: A Utah Pastor’s Journey by Pastor Scott McKinney.Picking up from Part 1, the group explores the final chapters of McKinney’s ministry story—where theology meets compassion and the call to “keep showing up” becomes both personal and practical. Centered on Jesus’ encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well (John 4), this episode dives deep into how that story parallels gospel work among Latter-day Saints today.Together they discuss:The cost of leaving Mormonism and the deep relational ties that make it so difficult.Why truth and love must always go hand in hand in witnessing—and the danger of falling into either ditch.How Jesus’ example in Samaria teaches us to show up, settle in, reach out, and share the good news with humility and courage.“Pork chop theology” and why the gospel is the satisfying feast every soul truly craves.Practical encouragement for anyone planting gospel seeds in difficult soil: your labor in the Lord is never in vain.This thoughtful conclusion reminds listeners that mission work is rarely quick or easy—but every conversation, every act of love, and every prayer matters. Through Jesus’ example and Pastor McKinney’s story, we learn that faithful ministry in Mormon culture (and anywhere else) starts with showing up… and never giving up.📘 Get the book: https://www.amazon.in/Keep-Showing-Up-Pastors-Journey/dp/1737032503Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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"When Every Mouth is Silenced" a Reformation Sermon
When Every Mouth Is Silenced In this week’s podcast episode, Missionary Mark Parsons shares a message inspired by his time at the 1517 Conference, Free Will Is Fiction, commemorating 500 years since Martin Luther’s The Bondage of the Will. Luther’s work reminds us that our will is not free when it comes to salvation—we are bound in sin and unable to reach up to God. Yet the gospel tells a far better story: God, in mercy, reaches down to us.This sermon is based on Paul’s incredible words in Romans 3:19–28, where every mouth is silenced and the whole world is held accountable before God. In that silence, the righteousness of God is revealed apart from the law—a righteousness given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.Mark’s sermon, When Every Mouth Is Silenced, explores the futility of self-righteousness and the peace that comes when every excuse is quieted—not by condemnation, but by mercy. It’s a message for anyone weary of trying to prove their worth or earn God’s favor, offering rest in the grace of the One whose will alone brings life.It’s also a gentle invitation for those from a Latter-day Saint background wrestling with ideas of agency, worthiness, and grace. This message isn’t confrontational—it’s freeing.Listen now and be reminded that when every mouth is silenced, every heart can finally hear the voice of mercy.Read the accompanying blog: When Every Mouth Is Silenced.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Keep Showing Up Pt.1
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, four evangelist interns — Noah, Aaron, Caleb, and Ethan — join the conversation to unpack Keep Showing Up: A Utah Pastor’s Journey by Pastor Scott McKinney, who faithfully served over 30 years at Center Point Church in Orem, Utah.Together with host Pastor Mark Parsons, the interns explore what it means to serve in the heart of Mormon country and how McKinney’s story reveals the challenges, joys, and gospel-centered perseverance required in ministry. They discuss:How McKinney’s personal story and early experiences shaped his heart for outreach in LDS communities.The shift from a“fortress mentality” to a mission-driven mindset focused on loving people as God does.The struggle between measuring ministry “success” by numbers versus faithfulness to the gospel.Why less is more—and how “Jesus is enough” counters the gospel of “more” found in Mormon culture.Key lessons for future pastors on building relationships, showing empathy, and keeping the main thing the main thing.Filled with thoughtful reflections and practical takeaways, this episode encourages all Christians—not just future pastors—to “keep showing up” with the love of Christ, even in challenging ministry environments.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ at Mormon Temple Open Houses
Witnessing Christ Podcast: Grand Junction Temple ExperienceEach time a new Latter-day Saint temple opens, Christians have a unique opportunity to understand Mormon beliefs better and lovingly point people to the true temple—Christ himself.In this episode, Pastor Mark Parsons and our evangelist interns share their experience touring the Grand Junction Temple during its open house and leading a Build Bridges, Not Barriers witnessing conference. Together, they discuss what they saw, the conversations they had, and how these experiences shaped their hearts for the lost.Listeners will gain insight into:What temple open houses reveal about the LDS view of worthiness, family, and eternal lifeSimple, respectful ways to start gospel conversations in LDS settingsWhy witnessing isn’t about winning arguments—but planting seeds and trusting the Holy SpiritWhether you’ve never stepped inside an LDS temple or you regularly talk with Mormon friends, this episode will encourage you to approach every interaction with compassion, confidence, and Christ at the center.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Witnessing Christ from General Conference: October 2025
In this episode of Witnessing Christ, host Pastor Mark Parsons welcomes this year’s four evangelist interns—Ethan, Noah, Caleb, and Aaron—for a special discussion on the October General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Each intern brings firsthand insights from watching or attending local sessions, reflecting on the experience through the lens of gospel-centered outreach.Introducing the InternsListeners meet the 2024–25 intern cohort: Ethan, a soon-to-be Lutheran pastor from Minnesota; Caleb, an avid outdoorsman from an Air Force family; Noah, a second-year seminarian newly married to his high school sweetheart; and Aaron, the group’s youngest member and duck boat driver from Wisconsin Dells. Each shares their background and passion for outreach.Initial Impressions of General ConferenceThe interns discuss the atmosphere of the LDS General Conference—its polished formality and emotional weight following the recent death of President Russell M. Nelson. Dallin Oaks presided, reaffirming the 1995 Family: A Proclamation to the World, which reemphasized traditional LDS views on marriage, gender, and eternal family structures. Several interns note the grandeur and emotional tone yet describe a recurring sense of emptiness—a focus on effort and presentation without the assurance of grace.Highlights from Individual TalksEach intern unpacks a specific conference message:Aaron reviews Dieter F. Uchtdorf’s Do Your Part with All Your Heart, noting the stress-inducing message of wholehearted effort. The team contrasts this with biblical assurance that Jesus did His part completely.Caleb examines Gary Stevenson’s Blessed Are the Peacemakers, which focuses on harmony in families. He observes that true peace begins with reconciliation to God through Christ, not merely human effort.Ethan explores Chad H. Webb’s That All May Be Edified, which emphasizes learning through obedience. He notes the talk’s subtle shift from gospel promise to personal performance, redefining grace as something accessed through covenant keeping.Noah analyzes Michael Cziesla's Simplicity in Christ, which promises peace through continual diligence. He contrasts this with the true simplicity of the gospel—that Christ has done everything necessary for eternal life with God.Pastor Parsons and the interns reflect that across the talks, Christ was often mentioned but rarely proclaimed as the one who accomplished redemption fully. Instead, obedience and covenant-keeping were emphasized as the means to access grace.Pastor Parsons also highlights two significant LDS updates:A pause on new temple announcementsA reported surge in conversionsWitnessing ReflectionsThe conversation closes with key takeaways for Christian witnesses:Ask Mormons open-ended questions about what Jesus has done for them and what they base their faith on—their testimony or Christ’s finished work.Listen with curiosity and compassion, creating a safe space for doubts and reflection.Point conversations from human effort toward divine grace, emphasizing reconciliation through Jesus alone.
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Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 4/4
This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you the powerful conclusion to Emilie’s story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and finding true freedom in Christ.After a lifetime of striving for perfection, Emilie finally encounters the promises of Scripture—assurances of mercy, peace, and a God far greater than she ever imagined. The weight of works-based faith gives way to the comfort of knowing that she can boldly approach God’s throne, not because of what she’s done, but because of what Jesus has already accomplished.Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on Emilie’s testimony, highlighting the peace of Philippians 4 and the hope of Hebrews 4, and showing how the gospel transforms anxiety, perfectionism, and fear into confidence, rest, and joy. Emilie’s journey reminds us that the true God is bigger, more merciful, and more loving than we could ever earn—and that in Christ, we are hidden, forgiven, and free.Tune in and be encouraged: Jesus really is enough.Watch the video version or support this project at TILM.org/radio, and share with your friends who need to hear this powerful story.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 3/4
This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 3 of Emilie’s moving story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the true hope of Jesus.As Emilie enters marriage, she clings to the belief that she has finally found stability. But just when hope begins to rise, tragedy strikes—shattering her world and forcing her to confront the painful reality of works-based faith. The devastating loss not only impacts Emilie but also reveals how deeply the message of perfectionism had entangled her family, leaving them burdened by an impossible standard.Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on this heartbreaking chapter of Emilie’s journey, helping listeners see the crushing weight of Mormonism’s demand for perfection—and the liberating truth of the gospel. They share how Emilie’s story points us back to the cleansing power of Christ’s blood, which offers forgiveness for every sin and a confidence to boldly approach God’s throne, not because of what we’ve done, but because of what Jesus has done for us.Tune in and be reminded: even in life’s deepest tragedies, Jesus is enough.Watch the video version or support this project at TILM.org/radio, and share with your friends who need to hear this powerful story.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 2/4
This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 2 of Emilie’s powerful journey of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the freedom found in Jesus.Emilie continues to wrestle with perfectionism, seeking validation in a new, unexpected relationship. But as the pressure mounts and long-held secrets come to light, the carefully constructed facade of her life—and the foundation of her Mormon faith—begins to crumble. In the midst of uncertainty and self-doubt, God’s truth starts to break through, revealing that grace is not something to earn but a gift freely given.Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on Emilie’s experiences, guiding listeners to understand the struggles of those trapped in works-based religion and how the love of Christ offers true freedom. Through Emilie’s story, we see the tension between striving for perfection and resting in the sufficiency of Jesus, a tension that resonates with anyone burdened by the impossible demands of earning God’s favor.Tune in and be reminded: your worth isn’t measured by performance—Jesus is enough.Watch the video version or support this project at TILM.org/radio, and share with your friends who need to hear this powerful story.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 1/4
This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 1 of Emilie’s compelling story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the life-changing truth of Jesus.Raised in a devout Latter-day Saint home, Emilie spent decades striving to be perfect—perfectly obedient, perfectly righteous, perfectly enough to earn God’s favor. Her faith was measured in works, her worth tied to performance, and the weight of perfectionism pressed heavily on her every day. She believed that only by cleaning herself up and achieving a certain level of righteousness could she approach God.But as Emilie’s story unfolds, God begins to show her that salvation is not something she can earn. Through the lens of her upbringing, Emilie’s journey highlights the contrast between striving under the law and resting in the grace of Jesus. Her story is a vivid reminder that God’s love isn’t transactional—it’s freely given.Mark and Molly Parsons offer reflections that guide listeners to understand Emilie’s experience, helping Christians cultivate empathy and courage when engaging with friends still bound by works-based faith. They explore how Mormon teachings on obedience and “blessings earned” can trap believers in a cycle of performance, and how the perfect obedience of Christ offers true freedom.Tune in and be reminded: you don’t have to earn God’s favor—Jesus is enough.Watch the video version or support this project at TILM.org/radio, and share with your friends who need to hear this powerful story.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!
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Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 5/5
This week, we bring you the final chapter of Erik’s Jesus is Enough story—a journey of healing, grace, and new beginnings.After navigating the pain of divorce and the upheaval of his former life, Erik begins to embrace his new reality. In the midst of uncertainty, he encounters someone whose life demonstrates the unearned grace of God in a way he had never seen before—showing him that even those who feel most undeserving are fully known and fully loved. For Erik, this realization marks a turning point, as he leans fully into faith in Jesus Christ rather than relying on performance or self-effort.Following Erik’s story, Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on the profound power of grace, especially in contexts—like Mormonism—where it is often misunderstood or overlooked. They discuss how God meets broken people in their need, offering hope and transformation, and how true faith isn’t about control or checklist obedience, but about surrender to Christ.This episode is a powerful conclusion to Erik’s story, reminding us that grace doesn’t just cover our past mistakes—it opens the door to new chapters, new relationships, and a life built on the unshakable foundation of Jesus.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!Watch Erik's full story here.
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Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 4/5
This week, we bring you Part 4 of Erik’s Jesus is Enough story—a chapter marked by unexpected loss, raw questions, and surprising encounters with grace.Life was unfolding according to plan—until it wasn’t. When a personal crisis shakes the foundation of his carefully built world, Erik finds himself angry, disoriented, and searching for answers. A support group of unlikely companions becomes a refuge, and one man’s messy-yet-hope-filled life gives Erik a living example of grace in action. It’s here, in the middle of pain and uncertainty, that Erik begins to see the difference between a works-based checklist and the gospel’s unearned gift.Following Erik’s story, Mark and Molly Parsons unpack the cultural backdrop—how pop culture portrayals of Mormonism can open doors (and landmines) in conversations, why archaeological claims about the Book of Mormon often collapse on their own, and the importance of building a solid trust in the Bible rather than just dismantling LDS teachings. They also explore how Mormon views of marriage and “eternal families” can intensify the pain of divorce—and why the LDS answer of “do more” falls short of the hope and comfort found in the Bible. Finally, they reflect on how God often uses deeply broken people to display the beauty of his grace, just as he did for Erik through an unexpected friend.This episode is a powerful reminder that grace doesn’t wait for our lives to be in order—it meets us in the wreckage, offering hope, healing, and a new foundation in Christ.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!Watch Erik's full story here.
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Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 3/5
This week, we bring you Part 3 of Erik’s compelling Jesus is Enough story—his journey from devoted Mormon missionary to a man gripped by the beauty and truth of the biblical gospel.While serving his mission, Erik is offered a rare opportunity to study in Jerusalem. Eager to deepen his Mormon faith in the very land where Jesus walked, he dives into the experience with enthusiasm. But as he begins comparing the Bible to the Book of Mormon, cracks appear. Discrepancies between Jesus’ words in the New Testament and LDS teachings spark unsettling questions. What started as an exciting faith-affirming trip becomes an eye-opening confrontation with the truth—and with the Savior Himself.Following Erik’s story, Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on the surprising role an NIV Bible played in his journey, and why modern translations can be so significant for Latter-day Saints accustomed only to the King James Version. They explore how the Bible’s unflinching honesty about human brokenness stands in stark contrast to the sanitized narratives many Mormons are taught, and how that raw truth elevates God’s grace rather than human achievement. You’ll also hear their insights on the deep, multi-layered nature of Scripture—and why creating opportunities for LDS friends to encounter God’s Word is one of the most powerful things Christians can do.This episode will challenge and encourage you to trust the transformative power of Bible, and to see how God uses even unexpected detours to lead people to the realization that grace can’t be earned—only received.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!Watch Erik's full story here.
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Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 2/5
What happens when your view of God is shaped by fear, duty, and distance?In Part 2 of Erik’s story, we journey with a young man navigating personal tragedy, theological hunger, and a growing desire for something more than perfectionism and pretending. After the sudden death of his father, Erik finds himself asking what he calls “the great and terrible questions”—Where did my dad go? Am I doing enough? Can I ever be worthy?Still deeply committed to Mormonism, Erik throws himself into LDS mission work. But an unexpected phone call with a bold Christian shakes his assumptions. When the man says, “That’s my Lord you’re talking about,” Erik begins to wonder: could a relationship with God actually be relational? Could Jesus belong to him, and not just the other way around?What follows is a season of unexpected curiosity. As Erik visits Christian churches, hears historic creeds for the first time, and digs deeper into the Bible, the God he once feared starts to look more like a Father he can know.Be sure to stick around for the end of the episode—you won’t want to miss Mark and Molly Parsons’ commentary. They unpack Erik’s story with insight and encouragement for Christian witnesses, sharing how grief often opens the door to grace, and how simple conversations (even the messy ones) can plant seeds that last.In this episode:What grief taught Erik about eternityHow Mormon views of Heavenly Father mirror earthly relationshipsThe impact of one Christian’s loyalty to JesusWhy biblical creeds and church history intrigued ErikWhat it means to witness with both truth and tendernessShare this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!Watch Erik's full story here.
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Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 1/5
This week, we bring you Part 1 of Erik’s powerful Jesus Is Enough story of growing up in Mormonism—and the unexpected early glimpse he got into grace.Raised by devout Latter-day Saint parents, Erik’s childhood was steeped in the culture, expectations, and structure of Mormon life. But when a classroom “cash” crisis meets his mom’s creative intervention, Erik is introduced to something entirely different: an undeserved gift that he did not—and could not—earn. What seemed at first like a questionable parenting decision turned out to be a vivid parable of the gospel’s scandalous beauty.Alongside Erik’s story, Mark and Molly Parsons offer meaningful reflections for Christian listeners. They invite us to see Erik’s journey not only as a testimony of grace breaking through but as a way to grow in empathy, understanding, and gospel-centered boldness when talking with Mormon friends. You’ll also hear how the LDS church’s increased focus on the Bible is opening unexpected doors—and how a discarded book (The Miracle of Forgiveness) signaled Erik’s growing awareness of the true message of Jesus.This episode is a must-listen for Christians who want to bridge the gap between theological knowledge and a genuine heart for those still trapped in a works-based system.Tune in and be reminded: grace isn’t earned—it’s received.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channels!Watch Erik's full story here.
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At the Door Idaho Falls 2025 Recap Mark and Molly Parsons
In this episode of Witnessing Christ, Mark and Molly recap the 2025 Idaho Falls mission trip, where over 100 Christian missionaries—including 77 high school and college students—spent a week sharing the gospel in a community where 60% identify as Latter-day Saints.Rather than leading with confrontation, this year’s outreach focused on Jesus’ parable of the Prodigal Son, inviting deep and personal spiritual conversations. Mark and Molly reflect on why this shift in approach opened doors—both literally and figuratively—as they recount stories of Mormons wrestling with perfectionism, questioning their worthiness, or feeling disconnected from God. Many, like “Tom,” a temple-attending man recovering from a heart attack, or “Kara,” who opened the final door after a long afternoon of rejections, found comfort in hearing that their worth comes not from what they do, but what Christ has done for them.The episode also explores the students’ transformation from nervous door knockers to bold gospel witnesses, the cultural shifts in modern Mormonism, and the remarkable receptiveness of a hurting community. You’ll hear how even small questions like “What’s your favorite Bible story?” sparked gospel-centered discussions and led to divine appointments.Whether you supported this trip through prayer, donations, or curiosity, this behind-the-scenes recap will encourage your heart and inspire you to marvel at what God is doing in the hearts of those both inside and outside the LDS faith.Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channel!Support Truth in Love Ministry here.
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Conversations with Former Mormon Authors: Damien Tracy
What happens when the Mormon shelf finally breaks—and Jesus is the one standing in the rubble?In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, we welcome Damien Tracy, author of The Shelf Breaker: How Jesus Drew Our Family Out of Mormonism.Damien vulnerably shares his journey from moral collapse and spiritual exhaustion to the freeing grace of the true gospel. Through legal and personal struggles, Damien attempted to regain worthiness, but the weight of perfectionism ultimately crushed him.What broke Damien’s shelf wasn’t scandal or bitterness. It was the overwhelming love of Christ and the faithfulness of Christian friends who patiently walked beside him. Hear how God used Roy and Mary, a kind Christian couple, to model friendship, plant gospel seeds, and create a safe place for questions.This conversation will equip and inspire Christian witnesses with practical examples of:What cognitive dissonance feels like for MormonsHow to become a trustworthy friend before you become a theological guideWhy patience, presence, and small steps matterHow the gospel transforms not just beliefs, but marriages, families, and identityListen now to see how God uses humble witnesses to reflect the light of Christ to those burdened by works-based religion.For more from Damien, check out our review of his book "The Shelf Breaker: How Jesus Drew Our Family Out of Mormonism."Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channel!Support Truth in Love Ministry here.
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Conversations with Former Mormon Authors: Brandi Bronson
In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, we sit down with Brandi Bronson, author of The Journey to Jesus: Finding Christ After Leaving Mormonism. Brandi shares her powerful story of growing up in a devoted LDS family, her eventual unraveling of deeply rooted beliefs, and how she came to know the true gospel of Christ. With honesty and grace, Brandi opens up about the emotional, cultural, and theological challenges of leaving Mormonism and the radical shift that occurred when she encountered the real Jesus of the Bible.Alongside evangelist intern Calvin, Brandi discusses the pitfalls of relying on feelings as truth, the role of evidence and humility in her conversion, and the importance of asking the right questions when witnessing to Mormons. Brandi's insights will challenge and equip Christians to better understand the LDS mindset and lovingly point others to the sufficiency of Christ's righteousness.Whether you're engaging with someone currently in the LDS church, supporting a questioning friend, or simply wanting to grow in gospel compassion, this conversation is both eye-opening and deeply encouraging.Listen now and share with others seeking to reach Mormons with the true hope of the gospel.
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Conversations with Former Mormon Authors: Michael Flournoy
In this episode, we sit down with Michael Flournoy, author of Tearing the Veil: A Guide for Sharing Grace with Mormons. Once a zealous Mormon missionary and amateur LDS apologist, Michael shares the incredible story of how a three-hour debate on grace, authority, and the nature of God began his journey out of Mormonism—and into the arms of Jesus.Joined by our interns, Grace and Charlie, we explore Michael’s unique witnessing approach called the IRIS method, which breaks down the gospel into four key concepts: Impossible Standard, Reckoned Righteousness, Indomitable Gift, and Settled in Faith. Michael offers practical advice on utilizing Mormon vocabulary to convey biblical truths, explains why Christians should read the Book of Mormon when witnessing, and discusses the importance of playing the long game in gospel conversations.This episode is packed with practical insights for anyone passionate about sharing the truth of God’s grace with Latter-day Saints. Whether you’re preparing for door-to-door outreach, engaging in spiritual conversations with missionaries, or just beginning to understand the Mormon mindset, Michael’s testimony and tactics will equip and encourage you.For more from Michael, check out our review of his book "Tearing the Veil."Share this podcast with your Christian friends and subscribe on your favorite podcasting platform!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe to our YouTube channel!Support Truth in Love Ministry here.
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Witnessing Christ is a Truth in Love Ministry podcast designed to help biblical Christians witness to their Mormon family, friends, and missionaries. For more Bible-based witnessing resources, check out tilm.org. We have many resources to support you, including classes, witnessing scenarios, books, and so much more.
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