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Wrestling Payments
by NEACH
Wrestling Payments is a podcast for professionals working at banks, credit unions, and FinTechs who are responsible for managing ACH and payment operations. In each episode, members of NEACH guide conversations to help professionals examine the challenges of modernizing payment operations. Ultimately, the stories uncovered through guest interviews and solo episodes will highlight industry trends and identify how organizations can build their payment operations for the future.
Episodes
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Wrestling with Financial News Mid-Oct 2026
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) SUMMARY A new weekly format: ten stories across two weeks, with an eye on what each one means in New England. Stablecoin reserves as a deposit category you can compete for, a Treasury check ring that coached depositors by text, Fed supervision...
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What's Good Enough? ACH Fraud Monitoring, Web Entries, and Risk Management
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Sean Carter, Caitlin Mullins-Smith, and Averee Jimenez dig into where ACH compliance breaks down in practice: origination-side fraud monitoring that nobody set up, web entries treated by label instead of by rule, mishandled written statements that...
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1857 Called. It Wants Its Fraud Back
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY Joe Casali uses this solo episode to argue that the proposed Stop Payments Fraud Act of 2026 is a useful but limited step against check fraud. He compares today’s check fraud problem to the 1800s, when thousands of banks issued…
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Governance Before Technology: A Framework for Stablecoins and Tokenized Deposits with Guest David Dwumah
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali welcomes David Dwumah, Founder & CEO of OurFiin and faculty member at the WPI Business School, for a conversation about one of the most important questions facing the payments...
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True Crime Fighters: Why Your Ops Team Is on the Front Line
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Nanci McKenzie, MLS, JM, AAP, APRP, CAMS, payments expert in Capital One’s commercial bank treasury management group, joins Joe ahead of her session at NEACH’s End User Payments Fraud Symposium. First party fraud is the one where your account…
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One Employee, Five Branches: The Wire Room Reality
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) One Employee, Five Branches: The Wire Room Reality SHORT SUMMARY NPG surveyed roughly 45 banks about how they actually run wires and found almost no consensus. Sean Carter walks through the numbers, including the 32 percent that train annually on...
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Fighting Back Against Credit Push Fraud: New ACH Rules for Originators
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Jordan Bennett, AAP, APRP (Senior Director, ACH Network Risk Management at Nacha) joins Joe ahead of NEACH's End User Fraud Symposium to break down the new ACH rules targeting social engineering fraud — and for the first time, they put real...
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Unlocking Data and Decision Making in Banking: A Conversation on AI-Driven Insights
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) How can community banks compete with the largest financial institutions in an AI-driven world? In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Sean Carter, President & CEO of NEACH, and Toli Amare, co-founder of Predium.ai…
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The Fintech Regulation Cage Match
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Understanding the Future of Fintech Regulation: The Cage Match BeginsIn this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali dives into the recent executive order that aims to overhaul fintech regulation. As the landscape shifts, understanding how...
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FedNow Goes Global: How Proposed Reg J Changes Could Enable Cross-Border Instant Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Description The Federal Reserve just proposed changes to Regulation J that would allow FedNow participants to designate intermediary banks — opening the door for cross-border payments over FedNow for the first time. Joe Casali breaks down...
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Conversations from The Clearing House Conference
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Phil Robin, SVP of Strategy at The Clearing House. They explore how financial institutions are approaching the challenges of modernizing payment operations, with…
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Washington Update
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Wrestling Payments kicks off 2026 with a trip to the Hill. Host Joe Casali sits down with William Sullivan, Associate Managing Director of Government and Industry Relations at Nacha, for a wide-ranging Washington update on the...
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The OCC Charter Loophole: An Illegal Hold on Community Banking?
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Wrestling Payments kicks off 2026 with a critical conversation. Host Joe Casali is joined by Brian Laverdure and Mickey Marshall from the Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA) to unpack the growing regulatory gap between...
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Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali sits down with Steve Wasserman of Vments and Larry Pruss of Strategic Resource Management for an urgent conversation about the seismic shifts happening in payments right now....
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Locked In or Moving Forward: Rethinking Core Renewals
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Rich Carty from Remedy to dig into the realities of core technology contracts in banking and payments. Rich shares how financial institutions weigh tough choices...
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Jordan Thaeler on Merchant Choice and the True Cost of Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Jordan Thaeler to explore how embedded payments lock merchants into costly, inflexible systems. Jordan explains why many software providers bundle payment…
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Stablecoins vs. SWIFT: The Revolution in Cross-Border Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) While domestic payments are faster than ever, international transactions remain stuck in the past. In this episode, Monex Chief Economist John Min explains why cross-border payments are often slow, costly, and unpredictable. GUEST-AT-A-GLANCE…
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How AI Is Changing Fraud Detection in Modern Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) AI is changing the world as we know it. I'm please to present a great conversation i had with Brian Keef of Nice Actimize who are a leader in many things, but AI in Banking. In this Wrestling Payments episode, host Joe Casali interviews Brian…
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Compliance v Sales: Wrestling with Pay by Bank Growth
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Sarah Stapp, Chief Commercial Officer, and Geoff Scott, Head of Compliance, at Aeropay. Together, they dive into the ongoing push and pull between sales and...
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The Send Side of Instant Payments: How RTP® is Transforming Business
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Jim Colassano, Senior Vice President at The Clearing House, joins host Joe Casali to discuss the transformative impact of the Real-Time Payments (RTP) network. He explains how RTP is...
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Breaking the Silo Surface: Uncovering the People-Powered Currents of FinTech Strategy
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Mid-market banks and credit unions are trapped between agile FinTechs and mega banks, held back by internal silos. On Wrestling Payments, host Elyssa Morgan explores how these institutions can break barriers and leverage their…
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Revenue in the Water: Turning FinTech Strategy into Profit
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Financial institutions struggle to identify and monetize revenue opportunities through FinTech partnerships while justifying upfront costs to leadership. Wrestling Payments host Elyssa Morgan speaks with Scott Goldthwaite from...
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Into the Depths: Busting the Myths About FinTech “Tech” Readiness
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Many financial institutions feel stuck, believing technology myths hold them back from innovation. In this Wrestling Payments episode, host Elyssa Morgan talks with Brian Anderson, VP of Banking Transformation at Finzly, about...
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FinTech Waves Ahead: Navigating Growth with Risk in Mind
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Financial institutions face a critical challenge: modernizing payment operations through FinTech partnerships without compromising compliance. On Wrestling Payments, host Elyssa Morgan explores practical strategies for balancing...
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FinTech in Open Water – Seize the Opportunity While Maintaining Control
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Host Elyssa Morgan talks with Dr. Angela Murphy from Pidgin about the shift from competition to collaboration between financial institutions and fintechs. They explore why partnership is a...
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Introducing Mascoma Technologies - From Legacy Cores to Agile Banking Platforms
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali from NEACH sits down with Raphael Reznek and Ingrid Hebert from Mascoma Bank and Mascoma Technologies to explore an incredible success story: how a community bank built its own...
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Behind the Network: Treasury Software's Role in Payment Processing
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali from NEACH speaks with Glenn Fromer of Treasury Software about solving the critical "last mile" disconnect between small businesses and the ACH network. Glenn shares how his...
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Nacha Smackdown Series - Part 3 Technical Foul Throwdown
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) QUESTIONS ALWAYS WELCOME. [email protected] EPISODE SUMMARY In this third installment of the NACHA "Smackdown" Rules Violations in the Ring series, Wrestling Payments host Joseph Casali dives into NACHA's enforcement process, examining real rules...
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Nacha Smackdown Series - Part 2 Unauthorized Cage Match
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY: QUESTIONS ALWAYS WELCOME. [email protected] In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali continues his three-part NACHA SmackDown series, taking listeners inside the high-stakes world of ACH rules violations. Through...
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Nacha Smackdown Series - Part 1 The Reversal Rumble
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joseph Casali launches a three-part "SmackDown Rules Violations in the Ring" series, examining ACH rule violations through wrestling metaphors. He analyzes two critical NACHA case studies that...
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Building Your Payment Story: Are You the Hero or the Guide?
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali draws surprising parallels between professional wrestling and the evolution of payment systems. After watching WrestleMania 41, he experienced an "aha moment" recognizing…
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Guardrails For The Fintech FastLane
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Travis Dulaney, CEO and Co-founder of BalancedTrust, to unpack the ongoing friction between fintech startups and their bank partners. From missing compliance...
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Beyond Credit: Sean Carter on Reframing Exposure Limits in Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY This episode of Wrestling Payments tackles the critical topic of exposure limits in modern payments. Host Joe Casali and guest Sean Carter, President & CEO of Neach Payments Group, dissect an article by Jordan Bennett of Nacha…
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Fraud Trends from an FI to Law Enforcement (The Lost Tapes)
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY It happens to the best of us. This session was recorded last year, but got lost in the shuffle. It may be a crime as the interview was with law enforcement and a member financial institution (at the time) on the topic of fraud...…
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Pay-By-Bank, Not What You Think It Is!
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY Sarah Stapp, Chief Commercial Officer at Aeropay, joins Joseph Casali to discuss the evolving payments landscape, focusing on Pay by Bank. Sarah shares her unique journey into fintech, from Craigslist job ads to leading global...
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March Top 3
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali breaks down three timely developments in the payments world. First, he tackles the slow adoption of faster payments among smaller financial institutions. Despite strong…
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Compliance Cage Match: Electronic Payments v Project 2025
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali unpacks Project 2025 and its potential impact on banking regulations, community banks, and credit unions. The discussion focuses on regulatory shifts, compliance adjustments, and how...
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Exploring Positive Pay
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Check fraud is skyrocketing, and financial institutions are scrambling to keep up. In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali sits down with Sean Carter, President & CEO of NPG, to unpack why fraudsters are winning—and how banks and...
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Spinning Plates of Efficiency
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali uses a unique metaphor—the spinning plates act from the Ed Sullivan Show—to explore the complexities of compliance, risk management, and operational efficiency in financial institutions. He...
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How FinTech, Fraud, and Regulation Are Shaping Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary Join us for this final episode of season 2. In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casali is joined by Sean Carter, President & CEO of NEACH, and Mary Mumper-Morrison, NEACH’s Education Director, for an insightful...
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Post Election Politics and Payments: A Look Ahead
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Welcome to another episode of Wrestling Payments. In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali speaks with Bill Sullivan, Associate Managing Director for Government and Industry Relations at Nacha, about the post-election political landscape...
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ISO 20022 & Smart Instant Payments
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joseph Casil talks with Steve Wasserman from Photon Commerce about the growing importance of ISO 20022 and its impact on the global payments landscape. Wasserman delves into how this...
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NEACH Responds to Federal Reserve System Change
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY The U.S. payment system stands on the verge of a monumental shift. The Federal Reserve is proposing 24/7 operations for the National Net Settlement System (NSS), the backbone of payment finality. This means no more "lights out" on...
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Time for A New Approach to Scam Prevention
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) [Podcasters note: In this episode we show our real passions for payments and appear not as CEO & EVP, but more as "two guys from Boston" as we tackle the alarming rise of scams and financial fraud.] Joe Casali and guest Sean Carter, President &…
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RTP - Wrestling with Milestones
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Episode Summary In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali from NEACH sits down with Rusiru Gunasena, the head of the RTP network at The Clearing House, to dive into the evolution and current state of real-time payments in the U.S....
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Onboarding FedNow with the Payments Professor
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) EPISODE SUMMARY In the latest episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali is joined by Kevin Olsen, the Senior Vice President of Innovation and Strategy at Pidgin. They dive into the intricacies of onboarding the FedNow payment system,...
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The Next Level in Instant Payments Roll Out
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) Welcome to another episode of Wrestling Payments. In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali dives into the transformative world of faster payments, focusing on the development and implementation of instant payment systems in the U.S....
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Third-Party Relationships - an Update
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) In this episode of "Wrestling Payments," host Joe Casali welcomes back Nanci McKenzie for a follow-up discussion on third-party relationships within the financial industry. Nanci, an independent consultant with extensive credentials in banking and...
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International Payments Alliance Meeting Part 2
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) In this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali and Kevin Olsen continue their discussion from the International Payments Alliance meeting by Nacha, diving into various topics surrounding payment systems and regulations. They start by addressing...
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International Payments Alliance Meeting Part 1
Send us a text. (email us if you need a response) In this episode of "Wrestling Payments," host Joe Casali sits down with Kevin Olsen, also known as the "Payments Professor." The discussion kicks off with Kevin's signature introduction and his enthusiasm for making payments engaging. They delve...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Wrestling Payments is a podcast for professionals working at banks, credit unions, and FinTechs who are responsible for managing ACH and payment operations. In each episode, members of NEACH guide conversations to help professionals examine the challenges of modernizing payment operations. Ultimately, the stories uncovered through guest interviews and solo episodes will highlight industry trends and identify how organizations can build their payment operations for the future.
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Wrestling Payments is a podcast for professionals working at banks, credit unions, and FinTechs who are responsible for managing ACH and payment operations. In each episode, members of NEACH guide conversations to help professionals examine the challenges of modernizing payment operations....
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