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You Handled That Perfectly™

Two San Diego natives, childhood best friends, and dynamic entrepreneurs, Kelly Avalon and Carly Cruickshank, share their journey through entrepreneurship, motherhood, and life. Together, Kelly and Carly bring their unique perspectives to the table, discussing everything from the challenges of starting and running successful businesses to the joys and struggles of raising children. Join them as they navigate their 40s with wisdom and humor. In each episode, they'll tackle topics relating to entrepreneurship, family-life, self-love, and building a community.

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    Survival Mode Series, Part 5

    Carrying the Mental Load AloneWho's keeping track of the appointments, school events, grocery lists, permission slips, birthday gifts, and everything else that keeps a household running?In this episode, we're diving into the mental load—the invisible planning, remembering, coordinating, and managing that often falls disproportionately on women.We’re discussing:What the mental load actually isWhy invisible labor can feel so exhaustingThe connection between cognitive labor, stress, and burnoutHow unequal responsibility impacts relationshipsResentment, emotional exhaustion, and being the "default parent"Why sharing the mental load is about more than dividing choresThis episode is for anyone who has ever felt like they're carrying the responsibility for making sure everything gets done—or for anyone who wants to better understand the invisible work happening behind the scenes.When the mental load is shared, people feel supported.And when people feel supported, conflict becomes a conversation—not a threat.And, in case no one told you today, You Handled That Perfectly. Check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™ Playlist on Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Survival Mode Series, Part 4

    Checking Your Phone During ConflictWhat does it really communicate when someone grabs their phone in the middle of an argument?In this episode, we’re talking about one of the most common modern relationship habits — checking your phone during conflict — and why it often feels so much deeper than “just looking at a screen.”We unpack the emotional dynamics that can happen in heterosexual relationships, where women may pursue connection while men may withdraw to regulate when emotionally flooded. The problem? Phones can make emotional withdrawal easier… and much more painful for the other person experiencing it.We’re discussing:Why phone use during conflict can feel like rejectionThe difference between intent vs. emotional impactEmotional flooding and nervous system overwhelmWhy attention feels tied to value in relationshipsHow to communicate the need for space without emotionally disconnectingPractical language to use instead of silently scrolling awayThis episode is for anyone who has ever felt dismissed, shut out, ignored, or emotionally disconnected during hard conversations — or anyone who realizes they use avoidance as a coping mechanism.Sometimes it’s not really about the phone.It’s about feeling emotionally chosen.And, in case no one told you today, You Handled That Perfectly. Check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™ Playlist on Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Survival Mode Series, Part 3

    Walking Away or Going Silent During ConflictIn this episode, Kelly and Carly discuss one of the most painful dynamics in relationships: stonewalling and emotional withdrawal during conflict.While many people assume yelling or arguing is the biggest threat to a relationship, research shows that emotional shutdown and withdrawal can be even more damaging over time. When one partner goes silent, the other partner’s brain often interprets it as rejection, abandonment, or emotional disconnection — turning everyday disagreements into much deeper feelings of loneliness within the relationship.The conversation explores:What stonewalling looks like in real relationshipsWhy withdrawal is one of the strongest predictors of divorceDr. John Gottman’s “Four Horsemen” frameworkThe nervous system response behind emotional shutdownWhy many people withdraw when emotionally overwhelmedThe difference between taking space and emotionally abandoning your partnerHow structured breaks can help couples regulate and reconnect more effectivelyKey TakeawaysStonewalling often stems from overwhelm, not necessarily lack of careEmotional withdrawal can create deeper wounds than open conflictConflict becomes more painful when partners feel emotionally aloneTaking intentional breaks can improve communication and resolutionNervous system regulation matters during difficult conversationsResearch MentionedDr. John Gottman’s “Four Horsemen” relationship researchStudies on physiological flooding and conflict withdrawalResearch showing structured self-soothing breaks improve conflict resolution outcomesIn case no one told you today, You Handled That Perfectly. Check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™ Playlist on Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Survival Mode Series, Part 2

    Mood UnpredictabilityLet’s talk about something that doesn’t get named very often. You know that moment when he walks in the room and within about five seconds you can tell what kind of night it’s going to be? Nothing dramatic has happened. No big fight. No slammed doors. Just a subtle shift in energy. And suddenly, you’re adjusting. You’re a little softer. A little quieter. Maybe you wait before bringing something up. Not because you’re weak or scared, but because you’re reading the room. And sometimes… the room is your husband.A lot of women tell themselves, “Maybe I’m just too sensitive.” But here’s what we’ve learned: when someone’s moods are unpredictable, your nervous system doesn’t ignore that. It adapts. You start soft-launching conversations instead of saying what you really want to say. You wait for “a good moment” that may or may not ever come. You rehearse things in your head. You add extra explanation so you won’t be misunderstood. You keep things lighter than you actually feel because you’re not sure how they’ll land. That’s not being dramatic. That’s being strategic. And over time, it’s exhausting.The hardest part isn’t even the bad mood itself. It’s not knowing which version you’re going to get. When something is consistently difficult, at least you know how to brace for it. You know how to prepare. But unpredictability keeps you scanning. Is this a safe moment? Should I wait? Is this going to turn into something bigger? That low-level hyper-awareness doesn’t shut off. It follows you around. And then you wonder why you feel tired all the time.If you’ve noticed yourself overthinking more, over-explaining more, or avoiding certain conversations altogether, that didn’t happen by accident. If you feel like you’ve slowly edited parts of your personality to keep the peace, that didn’t come out of nowhere either. You didn’t wake up one day and decide to be “too much.” You adapted to patterns that didn’t feel steady. That makes sense. Of course you adjusted. Most of us do.And just to gently reframe this: you don’t need perfection. You don’t need someone who is upbeat 24/7. You don’t need a partner without emotions. You need consistency. You need conversations that don’t feel like a gamble. You need reactions that aren’t wildly different from one day to the next. You need to be able to bring something up without first scanning for impact. Not perfect. Just steady.If this feels familiar, we just want you to know you’re not crazy for noticing it. You’re not dramatic for feeling the tension. And you’re not asking for too much by wanting emotional steadiness. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do isn’t fix it immediately. It’s simply recognizing the pattern and giving yourself permission to name it. In case no one told you today, You Handled That Perfectly.⁠Post by Jay Tibbs⁠ referenced in the episode Check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™ Playlist on Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You Handled That Perfectly™⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Two San Diego natives, childhood best friends, and dynamic entrepreneurs, Kelly Avalon and Carly Cruickshank, share their journey through entrepreneurship, motherhood, and life. Together, Kelly and Carly bring their unique perspectives to the table, discussing everything from the challenges of starting and running successful businesses to the joys and struggles of raising children. Join them as they navigate their 40s with wisdom and humor. In each episode, they'll tackle topics relating to entrepreneurship, family-life, self-love, and building a community.

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