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Zebras In America
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“Dude, you can get past a dog. Nobody f's with a lion.” - Grandma's Boy“You notice things if you pay attention.” - In The Mood For LoveMarcus Pinn likes movies. Scott Thorough likes movies. Marcus writes about movies (Pinnland Empire, The Pink Smoke), and Scott sometimes scores movies (Newlyweeds, Manos Sucias). They both have a background in hyper underground rap music, and enjoy sandwiches. Through a deep love of rap music, wrestling, and dissecting low and high brow cinema, Marcus and Scott developed an interesting kinship. After a bar conversation about movies where a stranger interrupted to tell them how much they enjoyed listening, they decided, “hey let's see if other people want to listen to our zany thoughts about film”. “Zebras In America” is a stream of consciousness rap on film and anywhere it may take a conversation."Zebras In America Opening Theme" music by Scott, scratches by Marcus.Logo created by DJ SNAFU
Episodes
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Popcorn Eschaton 86 - 'Coyote vs. Acme' and 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit'
The Eschaton Boys return to animation, this time tackling two politically-themed, live-action/cartoon crossovers! They discuss the furor over 'Coyote vs. Acme' and its anti-corporate message, then dive into the world of Toon Town created in the Robert Zemeckis classic 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit,'…
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Popcorn Eschaton 85 - 'Blade Runner' and 'Blade Runner 2049'
Scott and John sit down for a Voight-Kampff test as they examine the Blade Runner films, both the Ridley Scott-directed original and its sequel, Denis Villeneuve's 'Blade Runner 2049.' They discuss how the respective directors of these movies interpret author Phillip K. Dick's work, the…
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Popcorn Eschaton 84 - 'The Idiot'
The great Carmelita Valdez-McKoy returns to Popcorn Eschaton and she's brought both classic Russian literature and Akira Kurosawa with her! Together, they discuss Kurosawa's 1951 adaptation of Fyodor Dostoevsky's novel 'The Idiot, the film's depiction of accumulated trauma, and why this...
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Popcorn Eschaton 83 - 'The Testament of Ann Lee'
The Eschaton Boys welcome back the great Marcus Pinn to examine the 2025 musical biopic 'The Testament of Ann Lee.' They discuss director Mona Fastvold's fascinating film, the theological origins of Shaker beliefs, and use filmmakers from Carl Theodore Dreyer to Greta Gerwig to get a handle on...
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john doe
john doe by Zebras In America
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Popcorn Eschaton 82 - 'RoboCop'
'RoboCop' is one of the most talked about movies for the last 40 years, so Scott and John open up their trusty Eschaton Toolkit (compassion, Franz Fanon, Buddhism, worker exploitation, Christ allegories) to hopefully bring a unique perspective to Paul Verhoeven and Company's legendary film. Blood...
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A conversation with Guy Maddin
A conversation with Guy Maddin by Zebras In America
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Popcorn Eschaton 81 - 'I Love Boosters'
After a discussion on the potential role of AI in art and other aspects of modern life, Scott and John dig into the new Boots Riley film 'I Love Boosters,' worker organizing, and attempting to understand the current cinematic marketplace. Logo designed by Jesse Arnold...
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Popcorn Eschaton 80 - 'Marty Supreme'
For another Zebras in Eschaton crossover, Marcus Pinn is very patient as Scott and John uncork their numerous frustrations with Josh Safdie's 'Marty Supreme.' They discuss the nihilistic nature of the film's plot and characterization, the ugly tropes it indulges in, and why it fails to engage us...
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Popcorn Eschaton 79 - 'Reunion'
On this episode, Scott and John take a look at the Jerry Schatzberg film 'Reunion.' They discuss the quiet power of its story of friendship during the rise of Nazism in Germany, why the film isn't currently accessible, and the insight it has on millennia-old questions concerning the Problem of...
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Popcorn Eschaton 78 - 'Solaris' (2002)
It's another Zebras in Eschaton crossover as Scott and John welcome the brilliant Marcus Pinn to discuss the Steven Soderbergh version of the Stanisław Lem novel 'Solaris'! They get into how it compares with the Andrei Tarkovsky original, why this version remains underrated, and how to define a...
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Popcorn Eschaton 77 - 'Stalker'
The Popcorn Eschaton Boys return to legendary Russian filmmaker Andrei Tarkovsky with one of Scott's favorite films, 'Stalker'! They discuss the deeply personal nature to Tarkovsky's work, the joy of art that challenges us, and the bleak but beautiful visual and auditory aesthetic in 'Stalker.'...
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Popcorn Eschaton 76 - 'Defending Your Life'
Popcorn Eschaton is joined by the wonderful Becky D'Anna to discuss one of her favorite films, the Albert Brooks comedy of the afterlife, 'Defending Your Life'! They discuss the creative voice of Albert Brooks, how the film finds humor in death, as well as how it depicts lifting the fog of fear...
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Zebras In America Episode 180 - Darko The Super
The Zebra boys are back with the excellent Darko The Super find his music at https://darkothesuper.bandcamp.com/ He is the best dude. Expect more Zebras this year
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Popcorn Eschaton 75 - 'Hellboy' and 'Hellboy II - The Golden Army'
The Popcorn Eschaton Boys achieve the podcasting dream of talking about Guillermo del Toro (and comics) for over an hour! They've done so before and they will again! They discuss the 2004 superhero classic of Nazi-crushing and self-actualization, 'Hellboy,' as well as its sequel of anti-colonial...
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Popcorn Eschaton 74 - 'Lionheart' and 'Beau Travail'
It's a French Foreign Legion, arthouse/grindhouse double feature on Popcorn Eschaton! Scott and John discuss the Jean-Claude Van Damme classic 'Lionheart' and pair it with Claire Denis's mesmerizing 1999 film 'Beau Travail.' They get into how each film shows the exploitation of male bodies, their...
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Popcorn Eschaton 73 - 'Repo Man'
Scott and John continue their excursion into nihilism on film, but this time coming from an anti-consumerist, comedic perspective. It's aliens, time travel, punk rock, and not paying for sushi as Popcorn Eschaton enters the realm of Alex Cox's 'Repo Man'! Logo designed by Jesse Arnold...
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Popcorn Eschaton 72 - 'Dragged Across Concrete'
Scott and John planned on making this a double feature with Alex Cox's 'Repo Man,' but the conversation went in so many fruitful directions, it will have to wait for another episode! For this podcast, they discuss S. Craig Zahler's 2018 action thriller 'Dragged Across Concrete,' its toxic…
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Episode 179 - The Zebras Unite
We are back! forever? We never left. Thank you for understanding. We love you.
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Popcorn Eschaton 71 - 'Scrooged' and 'The Muppet Christmas Carol'
It's the holidays on Popcorn Eschaton! On this episode, Scott and John discuss two adaptations of Charles Dickins's 1843 novella 'A Christmas Carol:' Richard Donner's 'Scrooged' and The Jim Henson Company's 'The Muppet Christmas Carol'! They get into how each film tackles the text's spiritual and...
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Popcorn Eschaton 70 - 'Ghost Dog - The Way of the Samurai'
It's another Zebras in Eschaton crossover as we discuss another Jim Jarmusch classic! Scott, Marcus, and John explore the samurai, hip-hop, and literary influences that make up Jarmusch's film genre bouillabaisse that is 'Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai,' as well as how our perception of a…
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Popcorn Eschaton 69 - 'Bugonia'
Scott and John are joined once again by the brilliant Marcus Pinn as they discuss the new Yorgos Lanthimos 'Bugonia'! They get into where the film stacks among Lanthimos's impressive filmography, the stunning performances, what this film has to say about the systems running the planet, and why…
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Popcorn Eschaton 68 - 'Eddington'
It's another Popcorn in America crossover as the brilliant Marcus Pinn joins Scott and John to discuss Ari Aster's 2025 dark pandemic satire, 'Eddington.' They get into the hypocrisy the film points out, the film's political stance (or lack thereof), and how Aster capture's this present, paranoid...
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Popcorn Eschaton 67 - 'Cool Hand Luke'
Returning guest and friend of the pod Noah joins Scott and John to discuss the 1967 classic 'Cool Hand Luke' (hey, a 1967 film for our 67th episode! Serendipitous!). They get into Luke as a Christ figure, how the film demonstrates the dehumanizing control prisons have on prisoners, and the role...
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Popcorn Eschaton 66 - 'Eight Men Out'
In the midst of autumn, we're all in the mood to celebrate the Fall Classic and America's pastime! And on Popcorn Eschaton, that also means interrogating worker exploitation! Scott and John discuss John Sayles's 1988 adaptation of the Eliot Asinof book 'Eight Men Out,' using it as a springboard…
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Popcorn Eschaton 65 - 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3' and 'Au hasard Balthazar'
The brilliant Jon Laubinger joins Scott and John to discuss an unlikely pairing of films that deal with animal cruelty and the question of sentience: James Gunns's 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3' and Robert Bresson's 'Au hasard Balthazar'! They dive into the disturbing imagery in both films and...
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Popcorn Eschaton 64 - 'Porco Rosso'
Scott and I return to the world of animation and Studio Ghibli! What a treat! We take a look at the exceptional and underrated film from director Hayao Miyazaki, 'Porco Rosso'! We discuss fascism, survivor's guilt, and the pleasure of allowing a story to remain ambiguous. Logo designed by Jesse...
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Popcorn Eschaton 63 - 'Superman' (2025)
It's time to exalt kindness! On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John discuss the most recent cinematic iteration of Superman. They explore James Gunn's perspective on the Man of Tomorrow, the impeccable cast, and how Superman has been a politically aware character since his creation in 1938!…
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Popcorn Eschaton 62 - 'The Legend of the Holy Drinker' and 'The Fire Within'
The fantastic Carmelita Valdez McKoy returns to Popcorn Eschaton to discuss a pair of films about addiction: Ermanno Olmi's 'The Legend of the Holy Drinker' and Louis Malle's 'The Fire Within.' Carmelita, Scott, and John explore how these films deal with addiction, the possibilities of treatment,...
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Popcorn Eschaton 61 - Ozzy Osbourne tribute
Due to technical difficulties, Popcorn Eschaton had to pivot guests, topics, and even host! But because we try to go with the flow as best we can, and are blessed with wonderful friends, we march on! On this episode, John is joined by friends of Zebras Eschaton, Elana Levin and Frank Smith, as…
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Popcorn Eschaton 60 - 'Dead Man' and 'Star Trek III The Search for Spock'
What could be more Popcorn Eschaton than pairing Jim Jarmusch with Star Trek? On this episode, Scott and John head west to explore the poetic violence and self-discovery of 1995's 'Dead Man,' then they return to The Final Frontier as they join the Enterprise crew on their resurrection quest in…
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Popcorn Eschaton 59 - 'Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives' and 'The Room Next Door' (1)
On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John embrace living in liminal spaces as they journey through death and the boundaries between this world and the next. First, they explore Apichatpong Weerasethakul's 2010 spiritual drama 'Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives,' then they discuss Pedro...
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Popcorn Eschaton 58 - 'Excalibur'
Popcorn Eschaton welcomes the brilliant Carmelita Valdez McKoy to discuss medieval mythology and Catholic/Pagan sycheticism! The conversation dives into 'Excalibur,' John Boorman's classic of Arthurian myths, Dark Age Disco costumes, as well as personal and political morality! It's got a cast…
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Popcorn Eschaton 57 - 'Southland Tales'
On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John tackle one of the most discombobulating, bravura, and labyrinthian science fiction movies ever made: Richard Kelly's 'Southland Tales'! They discuss how the film succeeds and fails in reflecting America in a post-9/11 world and why a strange, unfinished...
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Popcorn Eschaton 56 - 'The Blood of Jesus' and 'The Nun'
Scott and John are joined by the brilliant writer and podcaster Spencer Seams! They discuss the emblematic race film from 1941 'The Blood of Jesus,' as well as Jacques Rivette's harrowing 1966 examination of institutional abuse within the Catholic Church, 'The Nun.' They discuss misogyny, giving...
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Popcorn Eschaton 55 - 'Conclave'
It's CONCLAVE time! It was inevitable that Scott and John would cover this stylish thriller about hermetic power, faith vs. certainty, conservatism vs. generosity, and how utterly terrifying it would be to have Isabella Rossellini disappointed in you. In times of such despondency, it was a...
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Popcorn Eschaton 54 - 'Belladonna of Sadness' with Heather Drain
Scott and John welcome the brilliant Heather Drain to Popcorn Eschaton as they discuss the Japanese cult animated feature 'Belladonna of Sadness!' They explore the difficult subject matter of the film, the wildly stylized and beautiful animation, the exuberant musical score, and how the events of...
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Popcorn Eschaton 53 - 'The Insider' and 'The Big Sick'
On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John dive into the infinite morass that is the American health care system, as seen through cinema. First, they look at how public policy is interwoven with corporate interests, as well as how journalism is supposed to be safeguarding us from those interests,...
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Popcorn Eschaton 52 - 'The Seventh Seal' (1)
Scott and John are joined by the world's greatest Ingmar Bergman advocate, the brilliant Becky D'Anna, to discuss 1957's 'The Seventh Seal'! They dive into the collision of medieval religious traditions with the cinema of the mid-20th century, the reputation of Bergman vs. the reality of his art,...
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Popcorn Eschaton 51 - 'Bound for Glory'
"This Land is Your Land" is an anthem to community and the rights all humans have to the earth they walk on, but what truths are there for us in the life of the song's composer, the legendary Woody Guthrie? On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John continue on the Hal Ashby train as they explore…
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Popcorn Eschaton 50 - 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' and 'Being There'
It's the 50th Popcorn Eschaton! For this special occasion, Scott and John pick their respective favorite movies and reflect on how they came to start this spiritually cinematic journey. John's pick for his favorite is 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,' and they discuss how fun it is to see…
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Popcorn Eschaton 49 - 'Blue Velvet'
Because we at Popcorn Eschaton love the immortal spirit of David Lynch so very much, we just wanted to talk about him some more! Let us journey to a small town out of time, the liminal suburbia that is the Lumberton of 'Blue Velvet'! We are joined by the brilliant Elana Levin (of Graphic Policy)…
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Popcorn Eschaton 48 - 'Dune' and 'The Straight Story'
With the passing of the one-and-only David Lynch, Scott, John, and Marcus wanted to explore two of the director's films that are least discussed in cinema circles: 'Dune' and 'The Straight Story.' One extravagent, overstuffed, and finished outside of Lynch's control, the other deeply personal,...
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Popcorn Eschaton 47 - Bruno Dumont's Joan of Arc Musical Duology
Scott and John are joined once again by the brilliant Marcus Pinn as they discuss one of Marcus's favorite filmmakers: Bruno Dumont! They focus on Dumont's pair of musicals about 15th Century saint and martyr Joan of Arc, the anachronistic music choices, and what Joan's tribulations have to say...
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Popcorn Eschaton 46 - 'Léon Morin, Priest' and 'The Prisoner'
It's priests taking on authoritarianism on Popcorn Eschaton! Scott and John take a look at two different perspectives of Catholic priests having their faith tested by unjust persecution and how those priests respond to that repression. First, they discuss the Jean-Pierre Melville classic 'Léon...
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Popcorn Eschaton 45 - 'Rumble Fish' and 'Bram Stoker's Dracula'
It's a Francis Ford Coppola double feature on Popcorn Eschaton! Scott and John each discuss their respective personal favorite Coppola movies, 'Rumble Fish' and 'Bram Stoker's Dracula'! They talk about why these atypical picks are important to their cinematic development, how these films appeal…
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Popcorn Eschaton 44 - 'The Shawshank Redemption'
On this Popcorn Eschaton, Scott and John are joined by prison reform professional Noah Barth. to discuss the modern classic 'The Shawshank Redemption.' They examine the film's take on the prison system as an institution, hope, and the relationship between platonic soulmates. Noah brought a great...
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Popcorn Eschaton 43 - 'Lady In The Water'
It's time for Scott and John to take a dive into M. Night Shyamalan's 2006 fantasy 'Lady in the Water,' the much-maligned fairytale of community and redemption. They discuss how the film has its heart in the right place but is also extremely messy, how Shyamalan could benefit from more active...
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Popcorn Eschaton 42 - 'Prince Of Darkness'
It's spooky season, so Scott and John are diving into John Carpenter's underappreciated, philosophical, theological, and science-obsessed horror movie, 'Prince of Darkness'! They discuss Carpenter's brilliant music, the big questions the movie asks, and opening the box of quantum mechanics to get...
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Popcorn Eschaton 41 - 'Brute Force' And 'High Life'
On this Popcorce Eschaton, Scott and John take a look at two drastically different, but complimentary, prison films: the raging ember of empathy for inmates, 1947's 'Brute Force,' directed by Jules Dassin, and Claire Denis's 'High Life,' a sci-fi meditation on the battle between despair and hope....
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“Dude, you can get past a dog. Nobody f's with a lion.” - Grandma's Boy“You notice things if you pay attention.” - In The Mood For LoveMarcus Pinn likes movies. Scott Thorough likes movies. Marcus writes about movies (Pinnland Empire, The Pink Smoke), and Scott sometimes scores movies (Newlyweeds, Manos Sucias). They both have a background in hyper underground rap music, and enjoy sandwiches. Through a deep love of rap music, wrestling, and dissecting low and high brow cinema, Marcus and Scott developed an interesting kinship. After a bar conversation about movies where a stranger interrupted to tell them how much they enjoyed listening, they decided, “hey let's see if other people want to listen to our zany thoughts about film”. “Zebras In America” is a stream of consciousness rap on film and anywhere it may take a conversation."Zebras In America Opening Theme" music by Scott, scratches by Marcus.Logo created by DJ SNAFU
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