All Episodes

Illumination Zone: Episode 236 | Exterro's Bobby Balachandran sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 235 | Ryan Costello of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 234 | Frank Ready of Wolters Kluwer sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 233 | Rishi Chhatwal of Redgrave LLP sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 232 | Jeff Rutherford and Justin Fitzsimmons of Magnet Forensics sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 231 | Matthew Hamilton of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 230 | Jeff Shapiro of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 229 | Jim Sullivan of HaystackID's eDiscovery AI sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 228 | Jon Robins of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 227 | Michael Cammack and Stephanie Wienke of HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 226 | Greg Moreman of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 225 | Cash Butler of Legalverse Media and Marc Mandel of Exos sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 224 | Timothy Conlon of DarrowEverett sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 223 | Jeffrey Fleming and Aleida Gonzalez of HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 222 | Elizabeth Guthrie of Nextpoint sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

"Echoes of AI: Episode 44 | Lessons for Legal Profession from the Latest Viral Meme: 'Ask an AI What It Would Do If It Became Human For a Day?' "

Illumination Zone: Episode 221 | Jenny Hamilton, CLO of Exterro, sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 220 | Tom O'Connor of GCLTC, Elizabeth Guthrie and Brett Burney sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 219 | Sam Morgan and Mark MacDonald of HaystackID sit down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Echoes of AI: Episode 43 | Cross-Examine Your AI: The Lawyer's Cure for Hallucinations - Debate Format

Echoes of AI: Episode 42 | Cross-Examine Your AI: The Lawyer's Cure for Hallucinations - Discussion Format

Illumination Zone: Episode 218 | Nate Latessa of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Echoes of AI: Episode 41 | The New Stanford–Carnegie Study: Hybrid AI Teams Beat Fully Autonomous Agents by 68.7%

Illumination Zone: Episode 217 | Greg Moreman of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Echoes of AI: Episode 40 | Google's New 'Quantum Echoes Algorithm' and My Last Article, 'Quantum Echo' (Debate Style)

Echoes of AI: Episode 39 | Google's New 'Quantum Echoes Algorithm' and My Last Article, 'Quantum Echo' (Conversational)

Echoes of AI: Episode 38 | From Ships to Silicon: Personhood and Evidence in the Age of AI

Illumination Zone: Episode 216 | Justin Tolman of Exterro sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 215 | Capri Miller of Level Legal sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 214 | Alex Walstad of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Holley Robinson

Illumination Zone: Episode 213 | Bryan Bellack of HaystackID sits down with Mary Mack and Mary Bennett

Illumination Zone: Episode 212 | Mary Mack on Kaylee Walstad

Illumination Zone: Episode 211 | Todd Tabor of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

"Echoes of AI: Episode 37 | The Shape of Justice: How Topological Network Mapping Could Transform Legal Practice "

Echoes of AI: Episode 36 | Epiphanies or Illusions? Testing AI's Ability to Find Real Knowledge Patterns – Part Two

Echoes of AI: Episode 35 | Epiphanies or Illusions? Testing AI's Ability to Find Real Knowledge Patterns – Part One

Illumination Zone: Episode 210 | Jeff Fleming of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 34 | Navigating AI's Twin Perils: The Rise of the Risk-Mitigation Officer

Echoes of AI: Episode 33 | Panel of Experts for Everyone About Anything – Part Three

Echoes of AI: Episode 32 | Panel of Experts for Everyone About Anything – Part Two

Illumination Zone: Episode 209 | Young Yu of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 31 | Panel of Experts for Everyone About Anything – Part One

Echoes of AI: Episode 30 | Henry Kissinger and His Last Book – GENESIS: Artificial Intelligence, Hope, and the Human Spirit

Illumination Zone: Episode 208 | Bruce Holbert of Exterro sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 29 | From Prompters to Partners: The Rise of Agentic AI in Law and Professional Practice

Echoes of AI: Episode 28 | AI Can Improve Great Lawyers - But It Can't Replace Them

Illumination Zone: Episode 207 | Dorothe Schuch of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 27 | Bots Battle for Supremacy in Legal Reasoning - Part Five: Reigning Champion, Orion, ChatGPT-4.5 Versus Scorpio, ChatGPT-o3

Echoes of AI: Episode 26 | Dario Amodei Warns of the Danger of Black Box AI that No One Understands

Illumination Zone: Episode 206 | Erica Zolner of Redgrave sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 25 | Zero to One: A Visual Guide to Understanding the Top 22 Dangers of AI

Echoes of AI: Episode 24 | Bar Battle of the Bots – Part Four: Birth of Scorpio

Illumination Zone: Episode 205 | Aaron Pribil of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 204 | Bennett Borden of Clarion AI Partners sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 23 | Afraid of AI? Learn the Seven Cardinal Dangers and How to Stay Safe

Echoes of AI: Episode 22 | Custom GPTs: Why Constant Updating Is Essential for Relevance and Performance

Illumination Zone: Episode 203 | Rob Robinson of ComplexDiscovery OÜ sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 21 | Healing a Divided Nation: An 8 Step Path to Unity Guided by AI

Echoes of AI: Episode 20 | Escaping Orwell's Memory Hole: Why Digital Truth Should Outlast Big Brother

Illumination Zone: Episode 202 | Esther Birnbaum of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 201 | John Tredennick of Merlin Search Technologies sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 200 | Xen Hartzell sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 199 | Nicole Fryson of Level Legal sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 19 | New Battle of the Bots: ChatGPT 4.5 Challenges Reigning Champ ChatGPT 4o

Echoes of AI: Episode 18 | Bar Exam Battle of the Bots - Part 2

Illumination Zone: Episode 198 | Sergey Demyanov of Beagle sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 197 | Kara Barnes with Ankura sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 17 | Bar Exam Battle of the Bots - Part I

Illumination Zone: Episode 196 | John Wilson sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 195 | Dr. Mark Pedigo sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 16 | Breaking New Ground: Evaluating the Top AI Reasoning Models of 2025

Echoes of AI: Episode 15 | On the release of DeepSeek and the response of OpenAI

Illumination Zone: Episode 194 | Ryan Costello of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 14 | The Human Edge: How AI Can Assist But Never Replace

Echoes of AI: Episode 13 | Sam Altman's 2024 Year End Essay: Reflections

Illumination Zone: Episode 193 | Jess Moore of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 12 | AI Leaders of 2024: Huang, Amodei, Kurzweil, Altman, and Nobel Prize Winners - Hassabis and Hinton

Echoes of AI: Episode 11 | Quantum Leap: Google Claims Its New Quantum Computer Provides Evidence That We Live In A Multiverse

Illumination Zone: Episode 192 | Jenna Rooney of Arete sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 191 | Anthony Diaz of Exterro sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 10 | Singularity Advocate Series #1 - AI with a Mind of Its Own, on Trial for its Life

Illumination Zone: Episode 190 | Kris Taylor of Purpose Legal sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 9 | GPT-4 Breakthrough: Emerging Theory of Mind Capabilities in AI

Illumination Zone: Episode 189 | Stephanie Wienke of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 8 | AI's 11 Point Bipartisan Plan to Repair a House Divided

Illumination Zone: Episode 188 | Infinnium's new Chief Revenue Officer, Doug Kaminski, sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 187 | Yana Dashevsky of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 7 | Designing Generative AI for Legal Professionals: Key Principles and Best Practices

Illumination Zone: Episode 186 | Robert Keeling of Redgrave sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 185 | Tom Gelbmann, Co-Founder of the EDRM, sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 184 | Peter Gronvall of Ankura sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 6 | Dario Amodei's Essay on AI, 'Machines of Loving Grace,' Is Like a Breath of Fresh Air

Echoes of AI: Episode 5 | Can AI Replace Human Mediators? Groundbreaking Study Reveals Surprising Results

Illumination Zone: Episode 183 | Shawn Arnold sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Echoes of AI: Episode 4 | The Future of AI Is Here—But Are You Ready? Learn the OECD's Blueprint for Ethical AI

Echoes of AI: Episode 3 | Navigating the AI Frontier: Balancing Breakthroughs and Blind Spots

Echoes of AI: Episode 2 | Can AI Really Save the Future? A Lawyer's Take on Sam Altman's Optimistic Vision

Echoes of AI: Episode 1 | Loneliness Pandemic: Can Empathic AI Friendship Chatbots Be the Cure?

Illumination Zone: Episode 182 | Matt Mahon of Level Legal sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 181 | Ray Biederman of Proteus Discovery Group sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 180 | Jason Cassel, Erin Meyer and Mary Bennett of HaystackID sit down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 179 | Chris Bojar of Barack Ferrazzano Kirschbaum & Nagelberg LLP sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 178 | Holley Robinson of EDRM sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 177 | Laura Danielson of HaystackID sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 176 | Rebecca Perry of Exterro sits down with Kaylee & Mary

Illumination Zone: Episode 175 | Rakesh (Rocky) Madhava and Brett Burney of Nextpoint sit down with Kaylee & Mary