All Episodes

EP235 NSPS Update - Tim & Trish in the Studio

EP234 Stewart Ward, PLS - The Business of Surveying

EP233 From the Director's Desk - The Latest in Surveying News

EP232 Dan Young - Idaho BLM Surveyor

EP231 25th Annual NSPS Student Competition

EP230 Gary Kent - Land Title Survey Standards 2026 - Section 6-8 & Table "A"

EP229 Gary Kent - Land Title Survey Standards 2026 - Section 4-5

EP228 Todd Horton - Survey Technician Training

EP227 Kennedy Williams - Senior @ Cal Poly Pomona

EP226 John Allen - Allen Business Advisors

EP225 From the Director's Desk - National Surveyors' Week

EP224 Milad Sadegi - Survey Technician & LSAW YSN

EP223 GeoWeek 2026 - NSPS Leadership Reflection

EP222 Halff Prep Sessions w/ Amanda Jonas & Jib Ahmad

EP221 Gary Kent - Land Title Survey Standards 2026 - Section 3

EP220 Gary Kent - Land Title Survey Standards 2026 - Section 2

EP219 Gary Kent - Land Title Survey Standards 2026

EP218 Ryan Hippensteil - DroneDeploy

EP217 From the Director's Desk - January 2026

EP216 NSPS YSN Candidates 2028

EP215 Cotton Jones - Candidate for NSPS VP

EP214 Anthony "Rich" Vannozzi - Candidate for NSPS VP

EP213 Dan Martinez - Candidate for NSPS Secreatry

EP212 Davey Edwards @ Trimble Dimensions

EP211 NSPS / FIG YSN Americas Conference - Panel Discussion

EP210 John Brady - Life as an Alaskan surveyor

EP209 - From the Director's Desk

EP208 - Patti & Ricky Brooks - Control Point Associates, Inc.

EP207 Cal Poly Pomona - Student Chapter

EP206 Kimberly Odom, PSM - Delta Land Surveyors, LLC

EP205 Woody Money PSM, GISP - Surveyor @ NAVFAC

EP204 - Seneca Holland

EP203 - Carl R. C.de Baca - Surveyors & California Fires

EP202B - NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) Election 2025 - Meet the VP Candidates

EP202A - NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN Election 2025 - Meet the Secretary Candidates

EP201 - Patrick Veraguth, Minnesota County Surveyor

EP200 - The NSPS YSN and the Future of Surveying

EP199 - Carl Bert, PLS - "Training the Next Generation"

EP198 - Vasileios "Vas" Kalogirou

EP197 From the Director's Desk

EP196 - "Surveyor Shortage" - A conversation w/ Parker Zurbuch & Jessica Hess, Vincennes University

EP195 - Land Surveyors United

EP194 - Linda Foster - Esri - The Role of GIS and Surveying in a Digital Twin

EP193 - Joe Paiva - GeoLearn

EP192 - Data Activation Center (DAC) – Data Communication Services

EP191 From the Director's Desk - UAV Legislation

EP190 - Mack McCarty - USACE Community of Practice Lead

EP189 Natalie Martinez-Vega, USACE Geospatial Center

EP188 Tom Garber - "Creating the Erie Canal"

EP187 - David Doyle - NSRS Modernization (Pt.1)

EP186 - NSPS Government Affairs Update

EP185 - FIG Young Surveyors

EP184 Farrah Etcheverry & Marcus Schmitt - NSPS YSN @ FIG Working Week 2024

EP183 - Shirley Chapunza - FIG YSN Chair

EP182 - Firas Fahoum - FIG Young Surveyor

EP181 - Joe Fenicle

EP180 - John "JB" Byrd - NSPS Day on the Hill

EP179 – Vince Boyd, PS

EP178 - 2023 Year in Review

EP177 Meet the Candidates for NSPS Young Surveyors Network Secretary!

EP176 Meet the Candidates for NSPS Young Surveyors Network Vice President!

EP175 Meet the Candidates for NSPS Vice President!

EP174 Meet the Candidates for NSPS Secretary!

EP173 John Vrablec, CST III - Value of a Certified Survey Technician

EP172 - Ashley Metz, New York Young Surveyor

EP171 - Lem Morrison - Surveyors & Renewable Energy

EP170 - NYC College of Technology - Surveying Program

EP169 - The ”Let’s Be Careful Out there!” Edition - From the Director’s Desk

EP168 - Certified Survey Technician (CST) Board

EP167 - Linda Foster - Esri and NSPS - Surveyors and GIS Webinar Series

EP166 - Megan Theune-Baillargeon, Wisconsin Young Surveyor

EP165 - Michael Bleeker (NJIT) & ”Gunther”

EP164 - ”Women in Surveying” - A chat with Paula Dijkstra

EP163 - ”Women in Surveying” - A chat with Megan Sattur

EP162 - ”BONUS EPISODE” The Bucks County Technical High School Program

EP161 - ”Women in Surveying” - A chat with Jen Reap, PLS

EP160 - ”Women in Surveying” - A chat with Jamie Reed, PLS

Episode 159 – “Women in Surveying,” a Chat with Amanda Allred, NSPS President

EP158 - NSPS Lobby Day Town Hall- Issue Talking Points

EP157 On the Road with Tim Burch

Episode 156 - FIG Working Week 2023 – Council & ACCO Meetings

Episode 155 - Data Activation Center – Providing Surveyors First Class Data Communication Services

EP154B - Southeast Technical College - Teaching the ”Future of Surveying” - Part 2

EP154 A - Southeast Technical College – Teaching the “Future of Surveying” Part 1

EP153 2022 The Year in Review

Episode 152B -YSN Vice President Candidates

Episode 152 - Future leaders of our organization!

EP 151 - NSPS Student Competition

Episode 150 - Join Tim Burch this week for another episode of ”From the Director’s Desk”

Episode 149 B - NSPS President Elect Candidates

Episode 149 A - NSPS Vice President Candidates

Episode 148 - Surveyors to the Rescue! QK4 surveyors race to collect data after historic Kentucky flooding

Episode 147 - This week’s podcast features a conversation with John Hohol, FIG Co-Conference Chair.

Episode 146 - Tim is joined by John Palatiello to discuss the origins of the Brooks Act and how quality-based selection (QBS) and services procurement relies heavily on this legislation.

Episode 145 - The NSPS Podcast finds your host, Executive Director Tim Burch “on the road” from Essen, Germany wrapping up a trip to Intergeo 2022

Episode 144 - Tim Burch sat down with David Sherrill, one of the driving forces behind the surveying program at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville (SIU-E).

Episode 143 - Tim Burch, sat down with Kai Duebbert, a second-generation surveyor who founded Kompass BMS, a software company

Episode 142 - This week Tim Burch sat down with Vince Campanella, a student in the New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT).

Episode 141 - Claire Buxton, an FIG Young Surveyor and past leader of the Volunteer Community Surveyor Program (VCSP), joined Tim Burch.

Episode 140 - Tim Burch, finally caught up with Narelle Underwood, Surveyor-General & Executive Director of Spatial Services in New South Wales, Australia and the conversation did not disappoint.

EP139 - From The Director’s Desk

Episode 138 - This week’s guest is Adrian Aguirre, a survey analyst with Guida Surveying in Fresno, CA.

Episode 137 - This week we caught up with our Lobbyist, JB Byrd.

Episode 136 - We have a winner! The NSPS Podcast finds us in Morgantown, WV at the offices of Triad Engineering as hosts for the presentation of the 2022 Trig-Star National Competition to Lauren Shen.

Episode 135 - This week’s episode is with Steve Martin, a recently retired surveyor formerly with the East Bay Municipal Utility District (EBMUD).

Episode 134 - The NSPS Podcast finds us having a conversation with the US Forest Service.

Episode 133 -Surveyor Says had a great conversation with Melissa Seitzinger, Project Development Manager for LJA Surveying in Tallahassee, FL.

Episode 132 - Surveyor Says catches up with the NSPS Trig-Star Committee

Episode 131 - Longest Active CST III!!

Episode 130 - Next installment of ”From the Director’s Desk”

Episode 129 - “Surveyor Says!” struck up a conversation with Warren Smith, L.S., Tuolumne County Surveyor and just happens to be the President (CLSA).

Episode 128 - The NSPS Podcast stays local with a short trip to the “District.” Our guest is Ramon Labrador, PLS, who was recently named as Deputy Surveyor for the District of Columbia.

Episode 127 - Our guest this week is J. Anthony Cavell, PLS, CFedS, who current serves as President of American Association for Geodetic Surveying (AAGS).

Episode 126 - This week’s episode is the next installment of our “What is Surveying?” series and focusing on the complementary geospatial service of aerial photography and LiDAR data collection.

Episode 125 - Tim Burch connects with our fellow surveying contemporaries from around the globe with this week’s guest, Michelle Blicavs, Assoc. of Consulting Surveyors based in Sydney, Australia.

Episode 124 - The NSPS Podcast finds us in the Dallas suburb of Farmer’s Branch and catching up with an energetic survey technician who “found” surveying through a unique job opportunity after HS.

Episode 123 - The NSPS Podcast goes straight to the top of the officer list and features a conversation with our new President, Amanda Allred, PLS.

Episode 122 - Gary Kent talks surveyors off the ledge...

Episode 121 - John Palatiello and Proposed Davis-Bacon Act Changes

“Surveyor Says!” The NSPS Podcast featuring “From the Director’s Desk”

Episode 119 - This informative episode covers the importance of contracts with our resident Land Title Survey expert, Mr. Gary Kent, PLS.

Episode 118 - The Podcast dives into the deep end of the Certified Federal Surveyor program with the program manager and actual CFedS, Mr. Glen Thurow, PS, CFedS.

Episode 117 - ”From the Director’s Desk” - This episode of “Surveyor Says!” The NSPS Podcast begins a new informational series...

Episode 116 - The Podcast finds us in the Palmetto State and chatting with Aaron Leach, PLS, owner at Rowe Prof. Services Company (Myrtle Beach office) and member of the NSPS Trig-Star committee.

Episode 115 - One of the biggest values of being an NSPS member is advocacy, so this week’s episode is a great way to hear all about our legislative efforts.

Episode 114 - The NSPS Podcast caught up with Alysen Tierney, PLS, the immediate Past President of the Wisconsin Young Surveyors Network and spark plug behind the success and growth of the group.

Episode 113 - PLSO 2022 Surveyor of the Year, Pat Gaylord, PLS sits down with an in-person conversation with Tim Burch, NSPS Executive Director.

Episode 112 - Ron Nelms, PLS - Author of ”Putting Big Sticks by Little Sticks”

Episode 111 - Galen Scott - GPS on Benchmarks

Episode 110 - Big Announcement! w/ Curt & Tim

EP109 ”What is Surveying?” - Subsurface Underground Engineering & Mapping

Episode 108 - This episode features interviews with Jeanette Harley, Heather Kennan, and Eric Salovich, the candidates for NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) Secretary in the upcoming 2022 Election.

Episode 107 - The NSPS Podcast” features interviews with Nolan Mark and Jacob Heck, candidates for NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN) Vice President in the upcoming 2022 Election.

Episode 106 - Happy Thanksgiving!

Episode 105 - Bob Akins, PLS - Candidate for NSPS Vice President

Episode 104 - Survey & GIS Summit -”What is Surveying” Panel Discussion

EP103 Rick Howard, PLS - Candidate for NSPS Vice President

Episode 102 - Joey Wilson, PE, PLS - President of Wilson and Associates

Episode 101 - Les Van Horn and the Brown County GIS

Welcome to the 100th episode of “Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast”!

Episode 99 - This episode is with Virginia Winberg, a PLS from the Land of 10,000 Lakes, (Minnesota, for those who don’t know that tidbit).

Episode 98 - This episode of “Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast” is a recent conversation with Denver Winchester, PLS, and the current President of the NSPS Young Surveyors Network (YSN).

Episode 97 - Our discussion this week includes Curt Sumner, Gary Kent , and Tim Burch talk about how licensing varies nationwide.

Episode 96 - This week’s episode of “Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast” allows us the opportunity to meet Christina Lee, our newest staff member.

Episode 95 - Today’s conversation is with DJ Kyle, the TSPS Executive Director and Heather Sides, the TSPS President-Elect (but only for another month!).

Episode 94 - Tim Burch recently talked with Connie Barrett, a professional surveyor in California who also paints still life portraits in watercolors.

Episode 93 - David Acosta, Chair of the NSPS Diversity Committee speaks with host Curt Sumner about the progress of ongoing activities of the committee.

Episode 92 - “What is Surveying?”, this episode of “Surveyor Says! finds us chasing down the original geospatial “Deadhead” Dave Doyle, our favorite retired NGS Chief Geodesist.

Episode 91 - NSPS Government Affairs Consultant John Palatiello joins host Curt Sumner to discuss the issue of Occupational Licensing.

Episode 90 - Host Curt Sumner talks with Trent Turk about the SAMSOG Education Foundation, Inc. (SAMSEF) which was established by the Surveying and Mapping Society of Georgia.

Episode 89 - Curt Sumner talks with Trent Keenan about his path into Surveying and passion for mentoring the next generation!

Episode 88 - Mark Husik, Executive Director for the New Jersey Society of Professional Land Surveyors, talks with Curt Sumner about his background and the apprenticeship program.

Episode 87 - Norm Ellerbrock sat down with Tim Burch to talk about his introduction into surveying, starting his own business, and how mentoring is important to teaching the future practitioners.

Episode 86 - NSPS Registered Lobbyist John “JB” Byrd and host Curt Sumner discuss the status of several Bills in the U S Congress.

Episode 85 - Curt Sumner is joined by John Hohol to discuss the history of ACSM, NSPS and their participation in International Surveying organization, FIG.

Episode 84 - Jim Coan joins host Curt Sumner to talk not only about his perspective as the NSPS Director representing the LSAW, but also about his career.

Episode 83 - This episode of “Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast” highlights the Trig-Star program with a conversation with Jerry Juarez, Chair of the Trig-Star Committee.

Episode 82 - Matt Morris, NSPS Director representing the Montana Association of Registered Land Surveyors (MARLS), joins host Curt Sumner for a conversation about his career.

Episode 81 - this episode of “Surveyor Says! The NSPS Podcast” connects us with Linda Foster, a professional land surveyor AND GIS professional (GISP) from South Dakota.

Episode 80 - On this episode of SS we turn the tables on fellow surveying podcasters! Shane Neeley and Connor Brown are the hosts of “The Shane & Connor Show!

Episode 79 - Surveyor Says! proudly brings a new series named “What is Surveying?” The inaugural episode brings a titan of the GIS community, Mr. Brent Jones.

Episode 78 - Join host Curt Sumner and Gary Kent for an update on the 2021 ALTA/NSPS Standards.

Episode 77 - Are you fully caffeinated and ready for an energetic guest? Then this episode is for you! Our guest this week is Sherry Toutges, a professional land surveyor from CA.

Episode 76 - The NSPS Podcast” brings a behind-the-scenes talk with the NSPS Federal Lobbyist, John “JB” Byrd.

Episode 75 -Tim Burch catches up with Nolan Mark, a professional surveyor licensed in Kentucky, Indiana, and Michigan. He currently leads the ISPLS Young Surveyor Network.

Episode 74 - This episode reviews the successes of the NSPS 2020 legislative initiatives.

Episode 73 - Join host Curt Sumner as he has an interesting conversation with Brian Anderson, The Tick Terminator.

Episode 72 - As we wind down Women’s History Month, it is fitting that our final guest is exceptional in her own right. It is our pleasure to have Dominica VanKoten, Chief Cadastral Surveyor, BLM

Episode 71 - Our guest this week is Galen Scott from the National Geodetic Survey (NGS).

Episode 70 - In keeping with the theme of Women’s History Month, our very special guest for this episode is Juliana Blackwell, Director of the National Geodetic Survey (NGS).

Episode 69 - Our 2nd episode for Women’s History Month goes “down under” with a lovely chat with Peta Cox, an Australian surveyor based in New South Wales.

Episode 68 - With March being Women’s History Month, we start strong with our “Future Focus” series and welcoming Sarah Walker, a dynamic Nevada Young Surveyor.

Episode 67 - We welcome Elly Ball of the “Get Kids into Survey” initiative back for another chat with exciting news.

Episode 66 - Did you know that a professional surveyor can also be a proficient timpanist? We have one, and he is also an officer of NSPS!

Episode 65 - This “Future Focus” features Jocelyn Correa, a licensed surveyor from CA. She talked with Tim Burch about making the early transition from architectural student to cadastral mapper

Episode 64 - This “Future Focus” features a conversation with Emily Soloby, founder of “Hazard Girls” podcast along with a new line of safety boots for women through her “Juno Jones” apparel line.

Episode 63 - Our “Future Focus” series finds us in the New England area and a conversation with Cassandra Quintal, a licensed surveyor and GIS professional from Maine.

Episode 62 - Are you ready for the new 2021 ALTA/NSPS Land Title Survey Standards? If not, we have Gary Kent back again this week!

Episode 61 - This episode finds our favorite land title expert, Gary Kent, back again for another “Table A Talk,” but joining him today is Tim Burch

Episode 60 - We invited Dr. Marian Young, a recently retired educator from East Tennessee State University, to share her story of teaching our wonderful profession for the past few decades

Episode 59 - NSPS wraps up a tumultuous 2020 with our “Year in Review” with Curt Sumner & Tim Burch!

Episode 58 - Becki Popeck, PLS and Robert Schmidt, PLS, PE, join host Tim Burch for a discussion on how ABET was started and a need for evaluators.

Episode 57 - Join host Curt Sumner and guest, Robert Loane III as they discuss his journey to becoming a multi-licensed Surveyor.

Episode 56 -Our “Future Focus” episode brings us an interview with Marisa Trzemzalski, the new NCEES Surveying Marketing and Outreach Coordinator who is also collaborating with NSPS.

Episode 55 - This episode of Future Focus features Griffin Pritchard, Public Information Specialist for the professional licensing board in Alabama.

Episode 54 - NSPS Government Affairs consultant John Palatiello joins host Curt Sumner for a discussion about Qualifications Based Selection (QBS).

Episode 53 - Joe Fenicle shares is experiences/adventures in surveying with host Curt Sumner.

Episode 52 - Join host Curt Sumner and he discusses the ALTA/NSPS Standards with Gary Kent.

Episode 51 - Join host Tim Burch with one of the best stories so far told on the Surveyor Says! podcast.

Episode 50 - Join Curt Sumner, Tim Burch and Trish Milburn as they recap the episodes.

Episode 49 - Join host Tim Burch interview James Combs, Vice President of the NSPS Young Surveyors, share his story of being introduced into surveying.

Episode 48 - Today's episode features our "Get to know your Directors Series". Join host Curt Sumner and the NSPS Director from Idaho, Stewart Ward. Schneider.

Episode 47 - Join host Curt Sumner and Gretel Zwick as they discuss her path to Surveying.

Episode 46 - On this “Point of Order” episode Curt Sumner is joined by JB Byrd and John Palatiello, about issues effecting the surveying profession during this extraordinary time.

Episode 45 - Today's episode features our "Get to know your Directors Series". Join host Curt Sumner and the NSPS Director from Arizona, Doug Schneider.

Episode 44 -NCEES Director of Exam Services Tim Miller talks with host Curt Sumner.

Episode 43 - This episode features our host Tim Burch and guest Trent Keenan, PLS and founder of his own firm in Las Vegas.

Episode 42 - Join Host Tim Burch as he talks with Denver Winchester, YSN President, on how he was introduced to surveying.

Episode 41 - Samuel J. Smith III shares his story with host Curt Sumner.

Episode 40 - Join Curt Sumner's discussion with Zach Gooch - Archaeologist turned Surveyor!

Episode 39 - Join host Curt Sumner kick off our new Series - Get to know your NSPS Directors. He is joined by current WI Director, Dick Kleinmann

Episode 38 - Join host Curt Sumner and Steve Allison, Certified Landscape Architect.

Episode 37 - Join host Curt Sumner and guest Tim Burch, NSPS President Elect, discuss how surveying remains an essential service during the pandemic.

Episode 36 - On this "Future Focus" join host Tim Burch and Emily Pierce, Business Development Director for Berntsen International.

Episode 35 - This “Point of Order” episode is a conversation with David Grossman, Executive Director of GPS Innovation Alliance (GPSIA).

Episode 34 - In this episode of "Future Focus" Curt Sumner interviews current NSPS Secretary Craig Amey.

Episode 33 - Curt Sumner interviews author John Berlau to discuss his new book about George Washington.

Episode 32 - Curt’s conversation is with Jared Wilson, Assistant Professor and Faculty Coordinator at East Tennessee State University

Episode 31- Join Curt Sumner as he has a discussion with Amanda Allred, NSPS Vice President on how she found Surveying.

Episode 30 - This episode is a conversation with our NSPS Executive Director, Curt Sumner.

Episode 29 - Join Curt Sumner as he has a discussion with Kyle Schultze, a licensed surveyor from IL. Kyle will be serving as the Surveying Merit Badge coordinator for the 2021 Boy Scout Jamboree.

Episode 28 - This week's podcast is a discussion with Chris Jepson, Vice President of the Land Surveyors Association of Washington (LSAW).

Episode 27 - Join host Curt Sumner's informative discussion with John Hohol, NSPS FIG Chair, to catch us up on the history of NSPS with FIG.

Episode 26 - On this “Point of Order” episode Curt Sumner is joined by JB Byrd and John Palatiello, about issues effecting the surveying profession during this extraordinary time.

Episode 25 - Join Curt Sumner and Gary Kent bring you the first installment of “Table A Talk” in the age of quarantine, “shelter-in-place” and COVID-19.

Episode 24 - This “Point of Order” episode captured a conversation with Jon Warren and Pat Beehler, both former NSPS Past President, and long-time participants in NSPS legislative efforts.

Episode 23 - Join host Tim Burch and Jim Coan, NSPS Director (WA) and Past President of the Land Surveyors Association of Washington talk about his surveying journey and mentoring others.

Episode 22 - This podcast features a discussion with Brian Anderson, “The Tick Terminator”.

Episode 21 - Today's discussion is with Anna Rios, RPLS and organizer of the Women’s Surveyor Summit.

Episode 20 - A discussion with Aaron Grau, Executive Director of the Association of Professional Pipeline Surveyors (APPS)

Episode 19 - Part B - Join host Tim Burch, NSPS Vice President and Dr. Michael Dennis, Geodesist and State Plan Coordinate System 2022 Project Manager for NGS

Episode 19 - Part A - Join host Tim Burch, NSPS Vice President and Dr. Michael Dennis, Geodesist and State Plan Coordinate System 2022 Project Manager for NGS

Episode 18 - Host Curt Sumner is joined by our Government Affairs team to talk about the 3 talking points for the upcoming Day on the Hill.

Episode 17 - Features our next “Future Focus” discussion with NSPS leadership.

Episode 16 - Features our next “Future Focus” spotlight on education.

Episode 15 - Table "A" Talk covers the current schedule of the process and review of updating the Standards.

Episode 14 - Future Focus - IPLSA Apprenticeship

Episode 13 - "Future Focus" A conversation with current NSPS President Lisa Van Horn

Episode 12 - A conversation with Ben and Cameron Lowe, second-generation surveyors from Texas

Episode 11 - "Point of Order" A discussion with the Joint Government Affairs Team

Episode 10 - “Surveyor Says!” unveils our latest series, “Future Focus” and our guest today is Kory Allred, PLS

Episode 9 - Table "A" Talk with Curt Sumner and Gary Kent

Episode 8 - Introducing “Point of Order,” the podcast devoted to the functionality and issues that are dealt with by our NSPS Joint Government Affairs Committee.

Episode 7 - Table "A" Talk with Curt Sumner and Gary Kent

Episode 6 - The NSPS Surveyor Says! Podcast proudly introduces “The Chat Show,” a new series based upon “Get Kids into Survey”.

Episode 5 - The Young Surveyor’s Network Edition - NHLSA Young Surveyor discusses Mount Tecumseh Project

Episode 4 - Table "A' Talk with Curt Sumner and Gary Kent

Episode 3 - First in a Series. Table "A' Talk with Curt Sumner and Gary Kent

Episode 2 - Part 3 - Vice President Candidate Interview - Thomas Brooks

Episode 2 - Part 2 - Vice President Candidate Interview - Amanda Allred

Episode 2 - Part 1 - Vice President Candidate Interview - Bob Akins

Episode 1 - Introduction to the NSPS podcast - Surveyor Says!