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28: The Leadership Ceiling (ft. Tim Kieschnick)

EPISODE · Apr 29, 2022 · 1H 2M

28: The Leadership Ceiling (ft. Tim Kieschnick)

from Finding Our Way · host peterme

In this episode, Jesse and Peter talk to Tim Kieschnick, who established the UX practice at healthcare giant Kaiser Permanente, and then went on to spearhead human-centered design in the organization, about his illuminating framework he calls The Leadership Ceiling, the importance of playing politics, how to start a movement, and what it was like to work for a single company for 30 years(!).

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