Breaking the Broken Recruiting Model - Ryan Hogan | 10x Your Team Ep. #434

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Breaking the Broken Recruiting Model - Ryan Hogan | 10x Your Team Ep. #434

from 10x Your Team with Cam & Otis · host Camden and Otis McGregor

Ever wondered why traditional recruiters seem more interested in their commission than in finding you the right person? Ryan Hogan did too—and it bugged him enough to build an entirely different model.In this conversation with Cam and Otis, the Navy Reservist and serial entrepreneur shares how scaling Hunt A Killer to a $205M phenomenon exposed him to the broken incentives plaguing the recruiting industry. "I'm an anti-recruiter recruiter all day long," Ryan admits with a laugh, explaining why the commission-based headhunter approach just doesn't work for growing businesses.From the controversial reality that "your next best hire is probably already employed" to the magic of turning recruiting into a true sales and marketing process, Ryan breaks down why finding great talent is actually a lot like hunting. He shares the exact process his team uses to create marketing materials for jobs that actually attract the right people—not just the available ones.Whether you're struggling to find talent for your growing business or just curious about a better approach to building teams, Ryan's flat-fee, embedded recruiting model offers a refreshing alternative to the status quo. Plus, he explains why understanding a candidate's drivers is the key to convincing them to even consider your opportunity.More About Ryan:Ryan Hogan is a Navy Reservist, serial entrepreneur, and the co-founder and CEO of Talent Harbor, a recruiting-as-a-service company helping growth businesses find world-class talent—without the broken incentives of traditional headhunters. After scaling Hunt A Killer from an idea to a $205M global phenomenon, Ryan experienced firsthand how ridiculous the recruiting industry was. That challenge became his next mission. With a deep belief that recruiting needs to be a core competency for all businesses—not an afterthought – Ryan built Talent Harbor to serve growing B2B businesses, especially those running on EOS. His team replaces antiquated commission-driven models with a flat-fee, embedded recruiting service focused on fit, process, and long-term results. Ryan is on a mission to change how business leaders think about hiring—and to challenge the outdated models that no longerserve today’s workforce or workplace.#10xYourTeam #RyanHogan #TalentHarbor #RecruitingReimagined #AntiRecruiter #FlatFeeRecruiting #HiringForFit #EOSBusiness #GrowthFocusedHiring #SmartTeamsGrow #EmbeddedRecruiting #BuildBetterTeamsChapter Times and Titles:The Anti-Recruiter Recruiter [00:00 - 05:00]Introduction to Ryan Hogan"I just poo poo all over recruiters."The pain point that led to Talent HarborFrom Hunt A Killer to Talent Hunter [05:01 - 12:00]Ryan's journey with Hunt A KillerThe transition to solving recruiting problemsWhy traditional recruiting models are broken"Your Next Best Hire Is Already Employed" [12:01 - 20:00]The controversial LinkedIn postWhy are employed people make better candidatesThe challenge of finding people who aren't lookingRecruiting Is Hunting (Then Sales) [20:01 - 30:00]"Expert recruiting is hunting."The 90-minute kickoff processCreating marketing materials for jobsThe Moral Question of Poaching [30:01 - 45:00]Is it wrong to recruit from other companies?Understanding candidates' driversBuilding a process that respects everyone involvedThe Flat-Fee Revolution [45:01 - 55:00]Why commission models create bad incentivesHow Talent Harbor's approach differsResults from the embedded recruiting modelConnect with Ryan [55:01 - End]"It's talentHarbor.com/Ryan"Final thoughts and takeawaysStandard outro with CamdenRyan Hoganhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/talentharbor/https://talentharbor.com/

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