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“you know, kind of just started that way. Um, you know…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 19:16

“you know, kind of just started that way. Um, you know, then eventually I think I signed up for a 5k and then that's when I kind of started running outside because I was thinking I'm not going to run a 5k in this gym. So I got to get outside and run on the roads to see like the simulate, like what's actually going to…”

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