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“mostly positive. Yeah, so how did that transition start…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 21:25

“mostly positive. Yeah, so how did that transition start happening? You did that 5K, your heart didn't explode. Yeah, I ran my first 5K in, I think it was October of 2009. It was the morning of my buddy Chris and Natalie's wedding. I ran 25.57.”

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