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“And even afterwards, Joe sent me a text. He's like, hey…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 49:25

“And even afterwards, Joe sent me a text. He's like, hey, you think you can get me down under 150 for the shoreline? Erica's talked so much about you. I figured I might as well give it a try. Step one, go outside. That's right. He's going to be like, I can't follow this plane. Out the window. I got too many shows to…”

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