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“Yeah, I did. To run in third place, I mean, as much as…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 22:14

“Yeah, I did. To run in third place, I mean, as much as you're maybe feeling like you're going slow, still to run in third place, you're running. Yeah, I was running. I definitely learned that I'm a social runner, especially in the trails. Like, I didn't like being by myself. So at the first aid station, I ran with my…”

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