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“One, they can kick you in your butt when you're feeling a…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 29:48

“One, they can kick you in your butt when you're feeling a little lazy. But two, just logistically, you're going to do a point-to-point run or something like that. You're not going to do it yourself most of the time. There are people that will park a bike and run to their bike, and I've never been that person. Yeah…”

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