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“He is. He started running at 50. He did his first marathon…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 6:15

“He is. He started running at 50. He did his first marathon at 50. And he just at 66 years old started doing ultras. So he did many on the Jenny this past year and got into trail running. So he's like my running hero. And he's the happiest runner out there. He's always just out there to have a good time and just to…”

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