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“Yeah, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. I think…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 13:26

“Yeah, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. I think it's fine. It's fine. I like running a long time, and roads kind of beat you up for 100 miles on the road. But it's not that I'm anti-nature or don't like the trails are there, but I'm scared of everything. I'm scared of snakes and frogs and bugs, and I don't…”

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