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“Well, you've got to be conflicted. I mean, you're the host…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 17:26

“Well, you've got to be conflicted. I mean, you're the host city. That's got to be some pride. And it was the RIT course. But yeah, you're not going on that all expenses paid trip or anything like that. Entertainingly enough, actually, he still made them pay for a hotel room for me. He's like, I don't want to clean my…”

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