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“The rest of them, there's just a cluster of people. And…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 27:03

“The rest of them, there's just a cluster of people. And I'm like, I think I could kind of get that group. Yeah, as long as you catch the back of them, then you can start running with them, right? Yeah, yeah. And I've always been, I've kind of transitioned into being into longer distances. But my roots and my bread…”

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