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“I think it was like 5.20, 5.18, somewhere around there…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 27:43

“I think it was like 5.20, 5.18, somewhere around there were the first two splits. The third mile was a little faster, like 5.15 or so. And then that last half mile, I really turned it on. And the whole goal was to try and catch anybody that I could at that point. And they had just a little bit more than I thought. I…”

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