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“and gone back and got another degree. Another degree? So…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 35:41

“and gone back and got another degree. Another degree? So that makes three? Two, so the bachelor's and the master's. And I was part of the club while I was getting my master's degree and only had time to run three miles a day as I was working full-time. So I went through a period where that was pretty much all I could…”

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