“And at the time, he was actually, he just started running.…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 3:36
“And at the time, he was actually, he just started running. He was a shot putter who then became a runner. That's a transition. It was. He actually became a runner because he actually backtalked the distance running coach. He made this claim that distance runners were weak. And she said, if you think that way, the…”
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