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“And so he started running and actually he took off with…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 4:44

“And so he started running and actually he took off with it. He dropped throwing all together and became a runner. And around that time was when my parents kind of gave me that ultimatum. And so I said, well, what does my older brother do? And I was like, I'll give it a shot. I never really had any hand-eye…”

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