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“Maybe a few years ago. It was mostly local races, but I…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 27:27

“Maybe a few years ago. It was mostly local races, but I signed up for a ton of races and just decided that was too many. So trying to keep it to the right number. I don't know what that is, but do that balance. And sometimes we bring them with. I've met your kids more than I do, because Ian's always got them out on…”

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