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“No, I don't hang out at the pre-race stuff. That's all…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 35:36

“No, I don't hang out at the pre-race stuff. That's all nervous energy. And for some people, they draw their energy off of that. For me, it's counter. It just takes energy away from me. So when I do packet pickup, particularly for a long race, I get in and get out as quick as I can because I think mentally you get in…”

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