“I think we've talked about this. I used to judge diners…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 42:32
“I think we've talked about this. I used to judge diners based on toast, and it got to be there just wasn't a lot of good toast at diners. And Laura helped me with those metrics. She's like, no, the first place you go is a pancake. Always try to do it. And I learned a lot. What about you, Laura? Are you a diner fan?…”
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