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“you know, we'll go in for maybe up to three overnights…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 44:58

“you know, we'll go in for maybe up to three overnights, but we usually go in, you know, however many miles and then stop instead of like a spike camp or something like that. And then, and then go out from there on, on day stuff, maybe, maybe move from there. I mean, it all depends upon where we are and what access is…”

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