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“Have you had to been pulled out of the low point as you…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 56:19

“Have you had to been pulled out of the low point as you would push somebody or they pushed you into your other spots? Yeah, definitely. I mean, kind of back to what I was saying earlier, sometimes when I'm doing these trips out west, because I'm a little slower to disconnect from the other half of my life, if you…”

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