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“it's just kind of trying to take those moments and make…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 7:02

“it's just kind of trying to take those moments and make them as few as possible. So if I kind of get some momentum going, then I'm able to keep that momentum. But I mean, ultimately, to be totally honest, what keeps me going in a bigger way is my dad had a quadruple bypass when he was 48 years old. And so, you know…”

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