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“Up until I guess we're going on about a year. I'd never…” — Running Inside Out Podcast at 20:42

“Up until I guess we're going on about a year. I'd never had a coach before. I always ran one pace. And so now I'm learning slow paces, fast paces, all these things that are making me a little bit faster in my old age. But I have a breaking point. Yeah. And that idea that you have that old in your old age. But in…”

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