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“You know, like, why would you even do that? Well, maybe…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 19:06

“You know, like, why would you even do that? Well, maybe she had a substance abuse problem and she, and she lost her ability to make a good decision. Yeah. When you're on those boats and it's just like, you know, it's party time, it's vacation time, you know, you probably, yeah. Okay. But still. Yeah.”

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