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“You know, there's a couple of different tricks that you…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 1:19:16

“You know, there's a couple of different tricks that you can do. And if you're really, if you really have a hard time, it's one of those things that just comes easier as you do more of it. And you get, you know, it's just you figure out little tricks and stuff. And professional painters and woodworkers and guys that…”

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