“encountering a pain problem like that is that people's…” — Airing Pain at 9:29
“encountering a pain problem like that is that people's experience over 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years is that the more they try to follow that, the more frustrating their life gets and the smaller their life gets. Nonetheless, the other goals are still there. I want to participate in my life with people I care about. And I…”
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