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“You don't get that for anything anymore. That is…” — Pod Save America at 32:07

“You don't get that for anything anymore. That is heartening. That is heartening. I mean, you see them. This is why I think the public opinion matters. You see them backing off in certain places. And that is because I think courts will be more confident when they feel like public support is behind them. And Trump will…”

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