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“vague shot at all that. Yeah, we were shadowboxing a lot…” — Pod Save America at 48:42

“vague shot at all that. Yeah, we were shadowboxing a lot of straw men. You know, it's funny, I'm doing what I told myself I didn't want to do, which is like, I watched the speech and I'm like, I could pick apart a lot of different parts of the speech and some of it is like, as a speech writer, some of it is like…”

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