“No, to me, that's a very not hopeful. I mean, good for…” — Pod Save America at 53:51
“No, to me, that's a very not hopeful. I mean, good for Bill Owens to take some courage and guts to resign like that. But I think to me, it was a sign that Trump successfully used the leverage he has as president to block this merger to at least dissuade critical reporting or at least drive someone who's good at the…”
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