“And it may be that they think, well, there's no other way…” — Airing Pain at 17:50
“And it may be that they think, well, there's no other way of seeing it except this. And so what I try to do is not to force a view on them, but to try and work with them in such a way. So they, in a way, start to think, oh, there are other ways of seeing this. Because the act of speaking is the act of hearing…”
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